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Jarad EDH deck, I would love suggestions.

Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord with the option of changing the commander to Savra, Queen of the Golgari

Over 1/3 of the deck are creatures for my Jarad boosting convenience

CARDS I REALLY WANT TO ADD

Dictate of Erebos

POSSIBLE CUTS

Nim Deathmantle

COMBOS

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Woodfall Primus OR Puppeteer Clique + sac outlet

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed allows the -1/-1 counter from persist to be counteracted by the +1/+1 counter from undying. This essentially means the persist creatures cannot die. Using a sac outlet like Fallen Angel or Greater Good , you can sacrifice the persist creatures over and over to get value out of their etb effects while simultaneously getting a huge Fallen Angel or drawing cards off of Greater Good . If you go down the Greater Good route then Volrath's Stronghold and Champion of Stray Souls makes sure you don't deck yourself on accident.

Eternal Witness + Living Death + creature removal effect

Casting Living Death with an Eternal Witness in the graveyard allows you to reanimate the Eternal Witness in order to bring back Living Death from your graveyard to your hand. Then with any sacrifice effect (Fleshbag Marauder , Fallen Angel , Phyrexian Tower , Shriekmaw , etc) you kill your own Eternal Witness . Then next turn you can cast the Living Death which will reanimate the Eternal Witness again and then you can repeat the process over and over. What is the point of using Living Death turn after turn? My deck has a ton of etb effect along with some death effects which can be used over and over again with Living Death for major value. However be careful in case your opponent has any etb effects from their creatures otherwise you might be netting them value.

Updates

1 vs 1 Match — April 15, 2013

Played a 1 vs 1 match (non-french rules) against a Sheoldred, Whispering One deck. Here are some of the highlights of the match:

He got to 56 life through attacking with Wurmcoil Engine and bringing it back after death and he brought me to 12. He managed to get an It That Betrays in the yard through Corpse Connoisseur and then he casted Living Death . I killed it with Putrefy . Then he got It That Betrays back with Animate Dead and I tutored for Shriekmaw with my Survival of the Fittest and used it's evoke cost to kill it. He played Necromancy on It That Betrays and I tutored for Phyrexian Delver with Survival of the Fittest and then brought back the Shriekmaw to kill it once again. (at this point I was at 6 life)

Next he cast Reanimate targeting It That Betrays and I had nothing to do. He attacked with It That Betrays and I sacrificed my Survival of the Fittest and Witchbane Orb . Next turn I used Sylvan Library to draw a Dread Return which was used on Eternal Witness to bring back Putrefy to kill It That Betrays again. At this point I had Crucible of Worlds in play so I kept using Strip Mine to lower his land count. Eventually I attacked with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord enough times to kill him with commander damage.


More changes — Feb. 21, 2013

I made a lot more changes and I believe the deck is just about complete, however I might change some cards once Dragon's Maze brings some new Golgari cards to the table.

Fuckslayer says...

#1

Needs more dredge.

April 29, 2013 1:22 a.m.

parasitian says...

#2

Here is the thing, the aren't that many dredge cards that are all that worth it. Dredge helps the deck, but if the card itself is weak then I am wasting my draws just to mill myself which generally isn't going to help much. I originally had Golgari Thug in the deck, but he was just too weak on his own to really be worth it.

Honestly I will agree with that this deck needs more cards that get cards in the graveyard. I also think this deck needs creatures that can recur themselves. While both of those things can be solved by adding dredge cards, I just don't think there any dredge cards are worth it in the deck. I will think of cards with similar roles to add though.

April 30, 2013 12:40 a.m.

hubatish says...

#3

Mulch and Grisly Salvage ? More creatures that dump themselves into graveyards? - Sakura-Tribe Elder is the best of them. Bloodghast is also a classic.

I run a somewhat similar Sek'Kuar Dredge Reanimator deck - I'm wondering how good Worm Harvest , Rot Farm Skeleton , and Creakwood Liege are. The Liege seems pretty sick, but the Skeleton might be too slow, and I've never tried Worm Harvest . Also, how often do you dredge? I can never almost bring myself to miss out on a draw to get back something like Golgari Grave-Troll unless I'm drawing multiple cards... But maybe the mill is worth it!

June 17, 2013 3:22 p.m.

parasitian says...

#4

I originally had Grisly Salvage in the deck, I might re-add it because it is pretty helpful sometimes. I don't think I have enough open card slots for Mulch , so I doubt I'll add it. I will add Sakura-Tribe Elder , I kinda doubted its utility at first, but I will definitely find a slot for it. I don't want to add Bloodghast , I feel like he isn't good enough for him to get a slot.

Creakwood Liege is good for his continuous tokens and buff, not super amazing, but good enough that he deserves a slot in the deck.

I'm testing out Worm Harvest for now, I might end up taking it out; so far I have got it out in the late game once and it was pretty good. You have no need for lands in the late game so each land top-deck feeds the growing pile of worms. The dream is to get Life from the Loam and Worm Harvest together and just start chugging out worms like no tomorrow, but it doesn't happen that often.

Rot Farm Skeleton has been removed from the deck and then added, it's hard for me to decide whether or not to keep him in. He mills you and beats face, but he truly shines when you have 7 mana and each turn you mill 4 while using Jarad's sacrifice ability to deal 4 damage to each player.

As for dredging, I don't use it very often. In fact I might remove Stinkweed Imp . Typically you are going to dredge when you are drawing a lot of cards like you mentioned, but there are a few other scenarios where dredging is useful. Life from the Loam is dredged when I'm missing a land drop and I'll dredge Golgari Grave-Troll often if I have 5+ creatures in my graveyard.

June 17, 2013 8:05 p.m.

hubatish says...

#5

Thanks for explaining those cards to me - I might give Creakwood Liege and Rot Farm Skeleton a try. And I agree about the Dredge - it can be an awesome bonus if the card is good, but never seems worth playing for the lackluster creatures. Life from the Loam = 100% best Dredge card in EDH.

June 17, 2013 9:32 p.m.

Mewgle says...

#6

Seeing a bunch of good things in your Maybeboard you WANT to have.

Seeing how you seem to be on-and-off about Rot Farm Skeleton , I'll ignore him for now.

To me, Butcher of Malakir is a slower, more cumbersome Grave Pact . Enchantments tend to be harder to remove than creatures. I'd cut him for Woodfall Primus .

Brawn isn't as strong as Filth in a deck with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . Perhaps you could cut that for Mortivore .

I say Reanimate over Stitch Together . One less mana, and any creature from any graveyard. Sure there's some life loss, but it's worth it if you're taking their Consecrated Sphinx or some other power creature.

Other cards I want to suggest that I don't know what you should cut are Buried Alive , Entomb , Skullclamp , Deadbridge Chant , and some more free sac outlets. Especially Viscera Seer for the Scry.

Other things in your maybeboard you want to prioritize finding a spot for are Rune-Scarred Demon and Birthing Pod if you have a pod chain.

August 13, 2013 11:34 p.m.

parasitian says...

#7

Thanks a ton for the suggestions, I'll try to work on some changes for the deck.

August 14, 2013 12:54 a.m.

parasitian says...

#8

Hey Mewgle, if I could only add one card would I add Reanimate or rescue from the underworld?

It's a new card from Theros, here is the link:

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/ths/obasdfkjw8324lz/6kdi5eUVwwI_EN_LR.jpg

September 2, 2013 2:30 a.m.

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