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It's beginning to look a lot like grixis


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It's beginning to look a lot like Grixis

Unnnnnndead ev'rywhere

A Blightning gets cast to your face

And Bolas blows up your Jace

Through the smells of rotted flesh and burning haaaiiiiir

It's beginning to look at lot like Grixis

With Zoooooooombie As-sass-ins!

Thrax makes them sac in attacks

Crumbling Necropolis has your back

And Slave of Bolas just threw Baneslayer in the biiiiiiin

If you play a Jund hack and they Blightning right back

You Swerve it back into their dome.

Polymorph has no chance 'gainst your Terminate dance

Now their Emrakul ain't got a home

Control and burn with a late-game turn, plus Unearth for your Life from the Loam

It's beginning to look a lot like Grixis

On turn seeeevvvvven they succuuummmb

Double blue, triple black, double red,

And your enemies' faces turn red

At your Crrrruuuueeeel Ulllltimatuuuuuum!

---KrazyCaley

This deck is my baby, it was my first EDH and so far its the deck I have kept together the longest. 1v1 the deck does amazingly, it quickly sets its mana base to cast any spell in my hand. Any hand with less than 3 mana sources gets muli-ed away. I'm slowly trying to turn this deck into a super friends style control.

In multiplayer games I struggle a little bit more especially if they have been up against it before because the table gangs up on me to take me out before my first board wipe. My basic stradegy for multiplayer games is to make early friends with draw spells.

Most games I have one by building a superior defense and swinging with my general but I have been known to "pop" Jace, the Mind Sculptor or bounce fields with blizzard scpector armies.

While Thraximundar is listed as my general I only use him for 1v1 because he has a tendancy to generate agro against me in multiplayer. I switch to Garza Zol, Plague Queen for multiplayer games because she is less threatening and she not only grows bigger with each creature she kills but also gives me card advantage if they let her go through. The only time I use Nicol Bolas is when I am playing against a deck that I know I can beat with out using my general or to give myself a challenge.

Zanven says...

#1

You have a fantastic curve for your first EDH deck.

You've got the right idea here and the right kind of ratio between creatures, removal, etc. My only advice is to remove some of your weaker removal, like Coma Veil in favor of something a little rougher. 5 mana for an enchant that only locks something down is way overpriced, especially in a slugfest like EDH.

September 22, 2010 12:18 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#2

not sure how much rougher Mark of Eviction is compared to Coma Veil but i liked the idea of repeatedly bouncing their general even if they can see it coming

September 22, 2010 12:44 a.m.

SpaceNinja says...

#3

Nice work, I like it. LOTS of control!

I would personally make a little more use out of your General's ability by letting her deal damage to creatures and get those counters. I would use one of those enchantments that make her into a pinger (tap to deal damage) like Arcane Teachings , Fire Whip , Hermetic Study , Hypervolt Grasp (probably the best one) card:Lavamancer's Skill, Power of Fire and Psionic Gift . You are in the colors to use all of the auras that do that. And maybe include a Basilisk Collar so each shot is a kill. Extra Arms can also allow her to kill a creature on the way over and get both bonuses at the same time. You could make a sub-theme out of that and put them on all kinds of other creatures for nifty creature-kill like Horseshoe Crab and the other blue creatures that untap themselves.

Then you could even put something in to untap Garza Zol herself so you can swing as well, like Freed from the Real or Crab Umbra to get the card draw bonus too.

Speaking of drawing cards, pingers can also be outfitted with Quicksilver Dagger , curiocity, Ophidian Eye and Sigil of Sleep to get extra effects going when they hit the opponent.

September 22, 2010 9:36 a.m.

SpaceNinja says...

#4

Sorry...Didn't spell Curiosity correctly.

September 22, 2010 9:37 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#5

i rly like the idea of givin her Extra Arms so she can blast creatures on the ground while flying over them as for the ways to make her a pinger i thought about that but i lacked any of them i am tryin to get my hands on hypervolt

September 22, 2010 3:58 p.m.

SpaceNinja says...

#6

The others are all commons and uncommons, you could probably pick up one of each for just a couple bucks. Much cheaper than those rares you have in. But yeah, the Extra Arms is sweet. Expensive to cast in normal magic, but easy in EDH :)

I was trying to suggest things that would give her all kinds of +1/+1 counters so that you can deal your 21 points of general damage for the win. Oh! Blade of the Bloodchief since she's a Vampire!! Stuff will be dying all the time, especially with all the removal you are packing. She will get 2(!!) counters each time something dies! Nice.

September 22, 2010 4:03 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#7

well as of right now the only three things that i will need to buy is Extra Arms Blade of the Bloodchief and Counterspell depending on where i go thats on average only $2.50 to $3

September 22, 2010 4:15 p.m.

SpaceNinja says...

#8

Extra Arms is like 8 cents: http://magiccards.info/sc/en/92.html

And the Blade is like 50 cents: http://magiccards.info/zen/en/196.html

You should spring for the rest of them, they are probably all around a quarter each. That's what I love about EDH! The best cards for the format are SO CHEAP!

Anyway, it looks like a fun deck regardless.

September 22, 2010 4:26 p.m.

SpaceNinja says...

#9

I wish they didn't have such a crappy painting of her on the card. If the artist from Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief had painted this card, I would probably have two or three decks featuring her :)

September 22, 2010 4:28 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#10

i know i love how drana looks vs garza

September 22, 2010 5:22 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#11

i had a problem with shroud any suggestions?

October 17, 2010 7:24 p.m.

Kalani says...

#12

What's the source of the shroud that is giving you headaches? Gotta go to the source. I recommend Ratchet Bomb /Prototype Portal , and a lot of tutoring spells to get them.

Btw, +1 from me for the clever name.

November 8, 2010 4:46 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#13

mostly its the enemy general

i do agree that is a really good combo... only thing is it has the chance of blowing up my enchantments/artifacts/planeswalkers something i really do not want to do that and with out proliferate it is kinda slow and by the time it has the necessary charge counters the damage has been done

November 17, 2010 4:26 p.m.

hamburgers says...

#14

Ratchet Bomb portaling has it's uses even without proliferate. Bomb the field on zero and wipe out all the tokens!

November 29, 2010 10:01 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#15

hmmm ill add it to my to get list cause i can pull it out of my grave yard multiple times if i really need to

December 3, 2010 9:41 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#16

how do you guys feel about Unscythe, Killer of Kings i would prob give it to gara and use the zombays as chump blockers

December 3, 2010 9:55 p.m.

hamburgers says...

#17

I really like it.

Why?

IT EXILES

SO GLORIOUS

December 4, 2010 2:59 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#18

what makes it better is they hit the grave yard first so i still get to use outa garza

December 4, 2010 10:39 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#19

ok i did lots of changes here is what i took out Abyssal Specter honestly didnt like it, it didnt really seam nessisary Mana Leak kinda useless when i drew it they almost always had the three to spare Soaring Seacliff honestly no idea why this was in here in the first place considering i mostly use my creatures for some cheap D card:Summoner's Bane was a tough call but end the end it didnt make it if i still had room it would be in here 2x Swamp swapped out for better ways to blend my mana Volcanic Fallout another tough call Zoetic Cavern i was using the morph as a creature D but i found something better

Darkslick Shores better mana blend even though most of the time it comes into play tapped Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth used in combo with another new card for some mass removal and it helps blend for some mana River of Tears mana blend Painful Quandary not sure how this will play in here but it sounded fun it says your mind or your soul pick one Mystifying Maze traded that ole Zoetic Cavern for this one... ya i have to use the 4 mana everytime but i can use it over and over Mutilate used with a certain tomb for some mass removal fun Mountain just found that when i needed a red mana i was short one some times Dread helps against shroud and makes my opp cast their commander over if they dare lay a finger on me Dissipation Field kinda like Dread only a lesser form kinda-sorta-ish

while i was doing all these changes i found a few cards that i like but i couldnt find room for card:Mage's Guile prob get used to counter either my opps buffs or their removal Shunt redirecting is always a fun time i enjoy the one i have in here (cough Swerve cough) alot so i figured i might like this too Corrupt it would be used with a certain tomb for a single case removal and/or spot life gain

i also got my hands on an unscyth,-killer-of-kings just now sure what to take out for it

December 5, 2010 8:38 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#20

thats Unscythe, Killer of Kings

December 6, 2010 4:26 p.m.

KrazyCaley says...

#21

Need to get a song going here.


It's beginning to look a lot like Grixis

Unnnnnndead ev'rywhere

A Blightning gets cast to your face

And Bolas blows up your Jace

Through the smells of rotted flesh and burning haaaiiiiir

It's beginning to look at lot like Grixis

With Zoooooooombie As-sass-ins!

Thrax makes them sac in attacks

Crumbling Necropolis has your back

And Slave of Bolas just threw Baneslayer in the biiiiiiin

If you play a Jund hack and they Blightning right back

You Swerve it back into their dome.

Polymorph has no chance 'gainst your Terminate dance

Now their Emrakul ain't got a home

Control and burn with a late-game turn, plus Unearth for your Life from the Loam

It's beginning to look a lot like Grixis

On turn seeeevvvvven they succuuummmb

Double blue, triple black, double red,

And your enemies' faces turn red

At your Crrrruuuueeeel Ulllltimatuuuuuum!

December 21, 2010 10:55 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#22

L-O-freaking-L

December 21, 2010 11:04 p.m.

muffludwig says...

#23

Don't forget to leave 1B open to Mana Leak ugly Christmas sweaters! +1 and Merry Christmas!

December 24, 2010 5:47 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#24

i had Mana Leak but it got cut because by the time i drew it, the opp would be top decking and would have the 3 open T.T

December 24, 2010 11:02 p.m.

CharonSquared says...

#25

Cards to take out: Gorgon Recluse (5 mana for an untargeted Dark Banishing is less than awesome). Wall of Spears (Doesn't do anything). Reassembling Skeleton (Unless you're doing Skullclamp stuff, you're better off with Wall of Shadows or something). Mage's Guile (Swap for Diplomatic Immunity, or Eel Umbra if you want to keep the instant speed). Mark of Eviction (doesn't permanently kill the creature). Inquisition of Kozilek (You should be worried about big spells, not CMC 3 or less spells).

Cards to put in:

Hinder , Spin into Myth , and Proteus Staff bury your opponents generals. Mind Shatter and Mind Twist wreck your opponents' hands. Loxodon Warhammer lets Garza kill in three swings and gains you life in the meantime. Trusty Machete and Darksteel Axe aren't as good as the warhammer, but still let you kill in 3 swings. Coalition Relic is awesome. I would run it in addition to Darksteel Ingot since your land count is low.

Good luck!

January 10, 2011 1:23 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#26

ill work on getting the Proteus Staff Mind Shatter and Mind Twist the rest ill swap out thx :D

January 10, 2011 4:57 p.m.

CharonSquared says...

#27

Mind Twist might be kinda hard to find, but the other two are really cheap; you shouldn't have to trade anything big for them.

January 10, 2011 8:39 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#28

any suggestions for a good sub for Mind Twist until i find it?

January 12, 2011 11:08 a.m.

CharonSquared says...

#29

Mind Shatter is obviously the closest equivalent, but if you meant in addition to that, maybe Consult the Necrosages ? It's not that powerful, but it's versatile because you can use it as a Mind Rot or a Divination .

Oh wait! Much better idea! card:Myojin of Night's Reach, or maybe Cabal Conditioning if you can't find the Myojin.

January 12, 2011 9:15 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#30

well i was lookin through my cards and i found Honden of Infinite Rage card:Honden of Night's Reach Honden of Seeing Winds what do you think of those?

January 13, 2011 9:44 p.m.

CharonSquared says...

#31

Seeing Winds is awesome, I run it in my Jhoira deck. Night's Reach is okay, but I took it out of my Kiku deck because it's mostly good for 1v1 and I prefer Hypnotic Specter . Infinite Rage seems pretty bad unless the people you play with use a lot of 1 toughness utility creatures.

January 13, 2011 10:55 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#32

well i mentioned the red and black ones because they do more with the more you have out

January 15, 2011 5:09 p.m.

CharonSquared says...

#33

True, but in a 100 card singleton deck you can't count on drawing multiple Hondens.

January 15, 2011 5:36 p.m.

Surprised to not see Memoricide or Thought Hemorrhage in here.

March 29, 2011 4:10 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#35

well since its a singleton format Memoricide and Thought Hemorrhage would get at most 1 card and i have to know the deck im playing against to get tht one card (since EDH has its own smaller banned list there are ALOT of cards that are legal (about 11439 or so give or take a few)) but the idea of taking out some key cards does sound like fun ill find a way to throw Sadistic Sacrament to hand pick at least 3 cards thank you for the idea

April 9, 2011 2:39 p.m.

http404error says...

#36

KrazyCaley just won the game of life.

+1 for the name XD.

May 4, 2011 10:36 p.m.

Caraculiambro says...

#37

The only issue I have is that I think you have too many lands that come into play tapped. I playtested a few times and it seemed to be a little slow. It made me wonder where I placed my Amulet of Vigor . However, it gets a +1 from me. Oh yeah, who exactly is your commander? It says Thraximundar but he's not in the deck and you already have 100 cards.

May 26, 2011 2:59 p.m.

Caraculiambro says...

#38

Also, Basilisk Collar would go well on Garza Zol, Plague Queen .

May 26, 2011 3:03 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#39

oh i forgot to change garza out she was the general until recently.... the fact tht they all come into play tapped isnt rly a problem since EDH is a slower format and if i put Amulet of Vigor in the chances of me drawing it is pretty slim since its a singleton deck

May 26, 2011 3:24 p.m.

aeonsecho3 says...

#40

it that betrays is always fun with thraximundar, but expensive with mana

June 1, 2011 2:58 a.m.

Exclaminator says...

#41

I alos have a Thraximundar EDH so maybe you can get some ideas from that Thraximundar EDH

June 1, 2011 3:03 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#42

well funny thing aeonsecho3 i had it in here but swaped it out for koz cause 3 reasons higher Annihilator (4 vs 2) lower cmc and koz gives me card advantage when the commander decks hit i think ill find a way to have It That Betrays in here (gettin a Sol Ring :D) i would feel even more comfortable running the two eldrazis if i had a Gilded Lotus

June 3, 2011 3:06 a.m.

aeonsecho3 says...

#43

I'd say run Black Market , it has potential to give even more than lotus though only black

June 3, 2011 10:39 p.m.

aeonsecho3 says...

#44

I'd say run Black Market , it has potential to give even more than lotus though only black

June 3, 2011 10:39 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#45

hmmmmm interesting... more of an insentive to add Contagion Engine to the deck ill work on getting my hands on one of each of those and let you guys know how it works out (glad to see you interact with us)

June 4, 2011 3:47 a.m.

gop2002 says...

#46

If Thrax is your general, Grave Pact and Butcher of Malakir are pretty useful. I'm also a huge fan of Blood Tyrant whenever you're in Grixis colors

(and for special fun with Thrax and pact/butcher, look for a Tombstone Stairwell . So unfair)

I'll third Black Market . It's amazing.

Vicious Shadows is expensive mana-wise, but really nice in EDH when creatures are hitting the graveyard left and right.

If you're having a problem with shrouded generals, Clone and it's like get around that - they aren't targeted effects, so shroud and troll shroud do nothing to stop them cloning and popping generals.

Finally, awesome deck name

June 9, 2011 1:58 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#47

only prob with Grave Pact and Butcher of Malakir are they work better in decks with lots of creatures in them mine has 8 creatures (other than thrax) as for the Vicious Shadows ill hunt one down and see how i like it

June 9, 2011 3:07 p.m.

Trabant777 says...

#48

Not bad I have a Thrax deck as well, I'm not going to lie our deck's have a different strategy to them, but I can't tell you how many games I have won by playing Savage Beating Just a thought. ;-)

June 26, 2011 9:28 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#49

oh wow... i could take two people out with that.... i think im going to have to hunt one down

June 26, 2011 10:56 p.m.

donut62 says...

#50

Looks solid, you might want to consider getting your hands on an Isochron Scepter you could cast a lot of your instants, some of my favorites are up there

some to consider:

Shadow of Doubt

card:Geth's Verdict

Magma Jet

Diabolic Edict

Oh and definitely put in the new Stranglehold it wrecks EDH considering almost every one runs either ramp, tutors, or fetches

June 28, 2011 7:54 a.m.

zandl says...

#51

I think Rapacious One would be a great addition here. Also, Essence Feed is pretty much what Grixis stands for. It pumps your Thraximundar while you gain mana!

Consuming Vapors is a pretty cool card in EDH, as you can target a different player on the Rebound.

June 28, 2011 11:42 p.m.

Kori says...

#52

Sit I must say you have broken so many basic rules I have been taught in EDH construction. I would have to say replace all your cards that are single shots to more recycable cards like for exmaple the Sun's Zeniths and Beacons.

June 28, 2011 11:55 p.m.

zandl says...

#53

@Kori

Yeah, so he can draw card:Red Sun's Zenith instead of Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker .

Good call.

June 29, 2011 12:03 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#54

im not sure if tht was sarcasm or not but i think i would rather have Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker in play than burn someone with card:Red Sun's Zenith and hope to draw it again later

June 29, 2011 1:31 a.m.

zandl says...

#55

Sarcasm was, indeed, intended.

Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker is a great use of 8 mana. card:Red Sun's Zenith is not.

June 29, 2011 3:31 p.m.

Kori says...

#56

I was never talking about Nicol, I don't even know how u guys "got take out Nicol" with "replace all your cards that are single shots to more recycable cards". I was just saying Red sun is better then something like Doom Blade because it recycles itself since EDH is usally a long game.

June 30, 2011 11:46 a.m.

zandl says...

#57

But the odds of drawing a specific card even once are low, let alone recycling something without having it countered and then drawing it again.

I never said "take out Nicol". All I'm saying is that most one-shot cards are better than recycling cards, especially card:Red Sun's Zenith (which isn't even good to begin with... Give me a Comet Storm any day).

Doom Blade > RSZ. Spending 9 mana to kill off a big creature, or 2? 7 mana isn't worth the recycling, especially when you only have a 2% chance to draw that card again.

You're saying that you'd rather draw card:Red Sun's Zenith than Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker while sitting at 8 mana? facepalm

June 30, 2011 1:58 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#58

if i really need to recycle stuff i can always pop the Elixir of Immortality kinda why i am running it so i don't run out of steam... the only zenith that is any good in my colors is the black one and i am running it as for the beacons again the only one i would consider is the black one (possibly blue but i think it would gernerate more hate against me in multiplayer than i would want since most of my turns are draw-land-go it would be a waste) but it's not quite what i want to do with this deck

got a Sol Ring im wanting to put in... any suggestions as to what to take out?

July 2, 2011 5:32 a.m.

zandl says...

#59

For Sol Ring , maybe a Swamp. Sol Ring almost acts as a land, so taking out one of your least effective lands for (theoretically) a better one is the smartest choice, IMHO.

Also, Morgue Toad . You're welcome.

PS. Countersquall > Negate .

And I still think you could do with more creatures. Creatures with Evoke are perfect for Thraximundar , since you get their Evoke effects and immediately sacrifice them. Things like Ingot Chewer and Mulldrifter would rule.

Here: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&color=+![W]+![G]&format=+[%22Commander%22]&text=+[creature]+[sacrifice]+![artifact]+![enchantment]+![land]&type=+[%22Creature%22]

That's a list of every nongreen, nonwhite creature ever printed whose text contains the words "Sacrifice" and "Creature", but not "Artifact", "Enchantment", or "Land". Browse through that ****.

July 2, 2011 1:14 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#60

i'm actually working on gettin a Countersquall still noone in my group has them and the shop i go to is sold out :( ill look into some creatures that i have with evoke

July 2, 2011 3:28 p.m.

Jewrummer says...

#61

I have a countersquall if you would like though I have no idea how the tappedout trading scene works lol

July 21, 2011 4:11 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#62

looking for anything?

August 13, 2011 4:55 a.m.

i really like this deck. i run a sedris deck that could use a boost. might look into what you got to help mine out. thanks :D

August 23, 2011 5:01 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#64

i dont really use many creatures to use sedris's ability

August 24, 2011 4:26 a.m.

Hazek says...

#65

I tried this in my local meta. Use one counter spell and everyone at the table targets me. With the low amount of creatures, I usually never had any kind of defense.

1v1 this deck rocks. Multiplayer... it could use some work

September 5, 2011 4:35 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#66

that is really the prob i have had :( any suggestions?

September 8, 2011 4:20 a.m.

Hazek says...

#67

You need more deterrence factors to the deck. I know there's a couple of enchantments that kill any creature that hits you.

Phyrexian Arena For card advantage.

Also no Demonic Tutor ?

September 8, 2011 4:54 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#68

Phyrexian Arena was in one of the very first versions of this deck but i cut it for jace as for the Demonic Tutor i would love to have one but none of my friends have one for trade :(

September 16, 2011 3:38 p.m.

Hazek says...

#69

I'd honestly rather go with Phyrexian Arena than Jace. Jace makes the game Archenemy tbh. As soon as I play Jace, everyone and their mother targets me. KILL JACE!!!

Arena is a threat, but TBH no one in their right mind targets that first instead of a Grave Pact or No Mercy . Spiteful Visions might be worth a look vs niz-mezzet decks.

September 17, 2011 3:49 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#70

working on getting a No Mercy and Spiteful Visions when i do ill up date

September 30, 2011 3:47 p.m.

alexsmith21 says...

#71

I really like this deck build you have for thrax a lot. +1. I just made my first thrax edh deck, and it seems like its doing well so far but i'm always looking for suggestions and opinions from others. deck:saximundar-edh

June 10, 2012 12:56 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#72

updated to try and make it better for multiplayer... hopefully

August 6, 2012 9:26 p.m.

Zzdragon23 says...

#73

Just one idea I had (did a quick check of the comments and saw nothing of this), how about Rooftop Storm ? Just an idea to get your Thrax out easily and get the Pharoh out easily? Just get it out and then say "I cast Thrax for free now". then watch the lawls go on and on and on XP

August 6, 2012 9:53 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#74

i can't believe i over looked that card its awesome ill have to look into getting one and look into some other powerful zombays

August 6, 2012 11:08 p.m.

Zzdragon23 says...

#75

Heh, hey it happens to all of us dude, besides the owner of the shop I go to thought of that XP It's honestly hilarious.

August 7, 2012 12:31 p.m.

I just want to say the deck name made me lol.

August 18, 2012 1:18 p.m.

Sniperops says...

#77

All I can say is wow. This deck is incredible. I was scrolling through the cards, and I saw Dissipation Field and was like "Well, this wrecks my commander Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind " Congratulations, this deck is just amazing. Thraximundar is one of my favorite Grixis cards. I am a little bit surprised that there is no Prince of Thralls . because Prince of Thralls + Thraximundar is pretty common, and works rather well.

August 18, 2012 6:58 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#78

The card formerly known as Prince of Thralls gets added and cut from the deck a lot right now i dont have room for it even tho i have been thinking about cutting Dominus of Fealty for it but im not sure

August 19, 2012 1:11 a.m.

Ohthenoises says...

#79

Just wanted to say, DAMN YOU FOR GETTING THAT STUCK IN MY HEAD! That is all.....

Undermine may be a good addition. You have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth but not Cabal Coffers ? I generally include 1-2 infinite combos in my EDH decks just as a backup plan, how do you feel about them?

August 25, 2012 10:09 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#80

i was looking for one when i first got Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth but none of the shops i went to had one and no one wanted to trade with me so i gave up on it if i was to happen upon one i would add it but the deck ramps pretty well with out it so i havn't went out of my way to get one as far as infinite combo's go i hate them in casual play so i try to stay away from them

August 25, 2012 10:34 p.m.

Ohthenoises says...

#81

Normally I use it as a "This game has become un-fun I'm just going to end this shit so we can start again".

August 25, 2012 10:41 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#82

i have no prob scooping when i get bored

August 25, 2012 10:45 p.m.

Ohthenoises says...

#83

That's fair. Normally I play with 15 people so if I scoop it may take a few hours for someone to win before I can play again.

Really solid in 1v.1 as you said. Why Mask of Avacyn over the superior Lightning Greaves , Swiftfoot Boots or Whispersilk Cloak ? Also, judging by your use of Sol Ring I can safely assume you aren't playing French rules, meaning that tucking is valid in your playgroups, so why not Hinder over Cancel ? (Other suggestions might include Stoic Rebuttal (as you might at some point get 3 artifacts etc etc etc.)

August 25, 2012 11:03 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#84

P/t boost from the mask and the only reason I have cancel is because i have a full art version I know theres better options but my cancle has style

August 25, 2012 11:48 p.m.

WarlordNeal says...

#85

Nicol bolas (The elder dragon) should be in there, But i don't see what to take out. It all flows together. I really like it

August 27, 2012 11:22 p.m.

Justarsaus says...

#86

I use him as an alt general to make it a little more challenging :D

August 28, 2012 1:25 a.m.

maiden77 says...

#87

hey mate given our shared love of Grixis!! i thought I would look at this deck 1st :-). I too have a grixis deck albeit with a different general I use Sedris, the Traitor King cuz he friggin epic! :-). 1st off I pitch an argument for you to have 36 lands not 34. I have found using my 11 EDH decks (seriously 11 IRL lol) 36 is the sweet spot, desptite what mana rocks or land fetch you are using, i mean if you are happy with 34 thats cool i just thought I would throw that out there. I play exculsively in multiplayers (4-7 people) so my decks are all tooled up to survive the chaos. obviously this is an expensive card but Demonic Tutor is a staple along with card:Sensei's Divining Top but cheaper ways to do these cards are things like Darksteel Pendant and Crystal Ball both really helpful. two tutor cards that are perfect for multiplayer are Increasing Ambition and Diabolic Revelation insanely powerful. i would also include Decree of Pain best wrath ever IMO clear field and fill hand? yes please :-) you already have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth i would add Cabal Coffers (which you can copy with Vesuva too!) to get a serious mana return. if relying on just tutors to find the combo as well as draw i run Expedition Map epic land fetch for every deck :-) hope I have helped mate, if you would like any help on a specific issue on the deck holla at me

September 7, 2012 4:07 a.m.

Justarsaus says...

#88

i have enough early draw and ramp that 34 lands works well for me i had card:Sensei's Divining Top in but i draw so much that the tops "scry" effect doesn't matter i was looking for a Diabolic Revelation , Cabal Coffers and Demonic Tutor but no one i know has one i'm not a fan of buying cards online :/ i didn't know Increasing Ambition existed and im already running Expedition Map lol

really what i'm needing help with is making it better for multiplayer

September 7, 2012 4:36 p.m.

warper says...

#89

hey if you guys are needing help in multiplayer my deck Pawn of Bolas wins quite a bit. even when I get targeted.

Even if you don't reanimate many creatures Sheoldred, Whispering One really hurts your opponents. If I get something like Darksteel Plate out I ussually tutor her up for it. I like the earlier suggestion of Mind Twist or Mind Shatter over Blightning and Hymn to Tourach . Those maybe some of my favorites but I prefer smashing someone's whole hand.

September 13, 2012 10:17 a.m.

maiden77 says...

#90

personally looking at your creature base, you don't have enough big craetures really, in multiplayer you will get a couple out maybe, not enough to win with and if a wrath happens you have lost a big percentage of your good creatures then a Bojuka Bog happens and you are screwed, i would get rid of the small creatures like the specter and stuff and put in more big creatures, you should be ramping early then playing scary win cons so these little guys should never get played. compare your creature base to mine and see what I mean, i concentrate on playing threat after threat after threat and if they survive I then unearth them with my general and go again. i VERY rarely lose with this deck in fact I have only lost once cuz I got mana flooded.

September 13, 2012 10:27 a.m.

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