Description

This is my second experiment with hyper-budget EDH decks (after $25 Extreme Budget $idisi EDH), and I'm loving how smoothly it plays!

This one is based upon my successful Zada deck (Red Scare: Zada EDH), and the main goal is as follows:-- Make as many tokens as possible.

-- Target Zada with spells like Expedite that draw me a card for each creature I control.

-- Cast a card like Twinflame or Chancellor of the Forges that doubles my creature count for a turn (bonus points for casting Twinflame while you control CotF, thus quadrupling your creatures).

-- Cast multiple large buffs like Screaming Fury or Downhill Charge, then swing for lethal. Alternate win conditions include Burn at the Stake and Ignite Memories (currently in the maybeboard).

The deck currently tends to storm out around turn 6 or 7, which is quite respectable for a deck that costs less than a commander precon. However, this deck is actually below budget at the moment! This means I can add some more expensive cards from the maybeboard.

What would you add, and still keep the price below $25? (Note: $25 on TCG-Low is about $40 on TCG-Mid, so we have about $15 of value to play with.)

Updates

Thanks to IgnisMachina's comments, and having thought about this deck for a while, here's the upgrade that should bring the value up to the projected $25 on TCG-Low:

Added: Inner Fire, Isochron Scepter, Krenko, Mob Boss, Mizzix's Mastery, Ruby Medallion, Siege-Gang Commander, Surreal Memoir, Treasonous Ogre

Removed: Brute Force, Brute Strength, Goblin Marshal, Hedron Archive, Sure Strike, Tamiyo's Journal, Temur Battle Rage, Uncaged Fury

Comments

mentor6 says... #1

Have you though about the 0 drop creatures? I.e. Memnite, Ornithopter, etc.?

June 7, 2016 1:59 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #2

mentor6: Memnite's a little expensive for this deck, but I could include Ornithopter in the budget. But why are they good includes here? Usually I want more value from one of my slots, and I often have mana to spare.

June 7, 2016 2:04 p.m.

mentor6 says... #3

Your creatures are not quick. Leaving very few targets for when you drop Zada to cantrip into. Idk about your meta, but I like to come out swingimg, knowing Zada won't stick to the board long on her own. If your in a grinder meta than I wouldn't bother with the 0 drops.

June 7, 2016 2:37 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #4

Riddle of Lightning seems like it might be able to stack your deck, at the possible cost of wiping your field

June 7, 2016 2:44 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #5

Few budget cards, depending on budget, to consider include Treasonous Ogre, Outmaneuver, Psychosis Crawler (if you have enough draw), Dualcaster Mage, Goblin Warchief, Reckless Charge, Assault Strobe, Overblaze.

I really like how this deck is still really similar to a non-budget version and still so good and super cheap

June 7, 2016 2:57 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #6

mentor6: Ah, I see the confusion. My creatures aren't particularly quick, agreed - but my non-creature token-makers (like Dragon Fodder or Hordeling Outburst) do the job to give me plenty of creatures by T5, when Zada usually arrives.

June 7, 2016 3:40 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #7

IgnisMachina: Riddle of Lightning is already in the 99, actually :D and it's proven to be amazing. The trick is to stack a land on top as soon as possible, so none of your creatures die, and remove it with the last copy that resolves.

Treasonous Ogre sounds like an absolutely amazing idea; that will go in ASAP. What would you cut?

Psychosis Crawler might work, but he only has value after I combo off. I'll consider him in the future, but I think he'll stay out for now.

Reckless Charge is good; I'll try and find a slot. Overblaze is expensive (in terms of mana), and Assault Strobe is a sorcery - Temur Battle Rage fills that slot for now. I'll consider them both if I feel I don't have enough damage to finish out the game.

Thanks for the comment; it helps a lot!

June 7, 2016 3:56 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #8

how good is Goblin Marshal in the deck, seems its mana cost is pretty high

June 7, 2016 4:02 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #9

IgnisMachina: Honestly, he's not amazing. I'd love to replace him with something like Tempt with Vengeance, which is virtually always better for the mana cost. However, he's cheap (in terms of $$) and there aren't many good token-makers in red :/

June 7, 2016 4:09 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #10

Uncaged Fury out for a Treasonous Ogre maybe, it's hard to figure what to replace.

June 7, 2016 4:31 p.m.

mentor6 says... #11

Treasonous Ogre+Soul Conduit =shenanigans galore.

June 7, 2016 7:31 p.m.

Casey4321 says... #12

I think Zada needs more protection. But I'm not sure what to suggest tbh.

June 7, 2016 7:55 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #13

Casey4321: Assuming she isn't countered, I usually cast her when have enough mana left to also play a cantrip. That's usually enough value to make up for Zada immediately getting nuked. I also plan to include Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast if their price goes down.

But you're right: this deck is very commander-focused. Unfortunately, there aren't many good options to give hexproof in red (obviously I don't want to give her shroud). The only other one I can think of is Champion's Helm (too much money) and Mask of Avacyn (too much mana).

June 7, 2016 8:41 p.m.

nzb2000 says... #14

I dont know much about commander which is why i didnt post a comment. Im really a beginner but i have many of the cards in this deck and they are very good. I was told that a deck should be not full of singles but i dont know if that also applies to commander. Im sure you have heard that already but that is the only advice a actually have. Sorry.

June 8, 2016 9:51 p.m.

mentor6 says... #15

nzb2000, though that is normally true. Commander is a singleton format. Only one of each card is allowed

June 8, 2016 10:47 p.m.

Casey4321 says... #16

Hi NZB. Welcome to the wonderful world of MTG! Commander is a format that suggests using 1 card each in a hundred card deck built around a specific legendary creature. It's a very fun format and if you wanted to jump in Daedulus here has provided a list that would be a great jumping off point! If you like to try! I just want to welcome you and help with your suggestion with Balduvian Rage

June 8, 2016 10:50 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #17

nzb2000: Welcome to Magic :) We were all beginners once, don't worry about it. As my esteemed colleagues have already mentioned, EDH is a special format where everything but basic lands (and Relentless Rats and Shadowborn Apostle) must have only a single copy. I always found that it made deck-building a lot more fun.

If you want, you could always +1 the deck instead of a comment (either is acceptable according to the thread rules) - green button near the top :)

What formats do you play?

June 9, 2016 12:36 a.m.

nzb2000 says... #18

Daedalus19876 O yeah i didnt realize that. I only play magic with about 8 of my friends. We are all about equal. We play alot but our decks are like a bunch of cards put together to form a deck. We think that the decks are good but the decks are not 4 of each card. Hence the decks that i own Tri Colored, Anti Flying, Bestow Deck I might make them pauper. We usually play multiplayer games also.

June 9, 2016 8:33 a.m.

mentor6 says... #19

nzb2000 than your in luck bud! EDH is a multi-player format, and there are a ton of budget builds on this site (this deck is both budget and powerful!). Tell your friends and try it out!

June 9, 2016 11:54 a.m.

cgoober says... #20

June 16, 2016 2:22 a.m.

foxboy1000 says... #21

I looked at this and thought, "Wow these cards are really expensive for a budget deck". Then I realized I was reading your maybeboard. Anyway I like the deck.

November 13, 2016 10:12 p.m.

mack10k says... #22

Wow I am making this deck because it looks so fun. I know I added Goblin Marshal to it, what do you think? Also I was thinking about Goblin Soothsayer as well. 27 bucks on TCG. Better than a precon!

November 21, 2016 9:34 a.m.

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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Cards 101
Avg. CMC 3.00
Tokens 0/1 Kobold, 3/3 Ogre, 0/1 Eldrazi Spawn, 1/1 Goblin, 1/1 Elemental
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