This is my second experiment with hyper-budget EDH decks (after $25 Extreme Budget $idisi EDH), and I'm loving how smoothly it plays!

This one is based upon my successful Zada deck (Red Scare: Zada EDH | *PRIMER*), and the main goal is as follows:-- Make as many tokens as possible.

-- Target Zada with spells like Expedite that draw me a card for each creature I control.

-- Cast a card like Twinflame or Chancellor of the Forges that doubles my creature count for a turn (bonus points for casting Twinflame while you control CotF, thus quadrupling your creatures).

-- Cast multiple large buffs like Screaming Fury or Downhill Charge , then swing for lethal. Alternate win conditions include Burn at the Stake and Ignite Memories (currently in the maybeboard).

The deck currently tends to storm out around turn 6 or 7, which is quite respectable for a deck that costs less than a commander precon. However, this deck is actually below budget at the moment! This means I can add some more expensive cards from the maybeboard.

What would you add, and still keep the price below $25? (Note: $25 on TCG-Low is about $40 on TCG-Mid, so we have about $15 of value to play with.)



Thanks to IgnisMachina's comments, and having thought about this deck for a while, here's the upgrade that should bring the value up to the projected $25 on TCG-Low:

Added: Inner Fire, Isochron Scepter, Krenko, Mob Boss, Mizzix's Mastery, Ruby Medallion, Siege-Gang Commander, Surreal Memoir, Treasonous Ogre

Removed: Brute Force, Brute Strength, Goblin Marshal, Hedron Archive, Sure Strike, Tamiyo's Journal, Temur Battle Rage, Uncaged Fury


mentor6 says... #1

Have you though about the 0 drop creatures? I.e. Memnite, Ornithopter, etc.?

June 7, 2016 1:59 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #2

mentor6: Memnite's a little expensive for this deck, but I could include Ornithopter in the budget. But why are they good includes here? Usually I want more value from one of my slots, and I often have mana to spare.

June 7, 2016 2:04 p.m.

mentor6 says... #3

Your creatures are not quick. Leaving very few targets for when you drop Zada to cantrip into. Idk about your meta, but I like to come out swingimg, knowing Zada won't stick to the board long on her own. If your in a grinder meta than I wouldn't bother with the 0 drops.

June 7, 2016 2:37 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #4

Riddle of Lightning seems like it might be able to stack your deck, at the possible cost of wiping your field

June 7, 2016 2:44 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #5

Few budget cards, depending on budget, to consider include Treasonous Ogre, Outmaneuver, Psychosis Crawler (if you have enough draw), Dualcaster Mage, Goblin Warchief, Reckless Charge, Assault Strobe, Overblaze.

I really like how this deck is still really similar to a non-budget version and still so good and super cheap

June 7, 2016 2:57 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #6

mentor6: Ah, I see the confusion. My creatures aren't particularly quick, agreed - but my non-creature token-makers (like Dragon Fodder or Hordeling Outburst) do the job to give me plenty of creatures by T5, when Zada usually arrives.

June 7, 2016 3:40 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #7

IgnisMachina: Riddle of Lightning is already in the 99, actually :D and it's proven to be amazing. The trick is to stack a land on top as soon as possible, so none of your creatures die, and remove it with the last copy that resolves.

Treasonous Ogre sounds like an absolutely amazing idea; that will go in ASAP. What would you cut?

Psychosis Crawler might work, but he only has value after I combo off. I'll consider him in the future, but I think he'll stay out for now.

Reckless Charge is good; I'll try and find a slot. Overblaze is expensive (in terms of mana), and Assault Strobe is a sorcery - Temur Battle Rage fills that slot for now. I'll consider them both if I feel I don't have enough damage to finish out the game.

Thanks for the comment; it helps a lot!

June 7, 2016 3:56 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #8

how good is Goblin Marshal in the deck, seems its mana cost is pretty high

June 7, 2016 4:02 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #9

IgnisMachina: Honestly, he's not amazing. I'd love to replace him with something like Tempt with Vengeance, which is virtually always better for the mana cost. However, he's cheap (in terms of $$) and there aren't many good token-makers in red :/

June 7, 2016 4:09 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #10

Uncaged Fury out for a Treasonous Ogre maybe, it's hard to figure what to replace.

June 7, 2016 4:31 p.m.

mentor6 says... #11

Treasonous Ogre+Soul Conduit =shenanigans galore.

June 7, 2016 7:31 p.m.

Casey4321 says... #12

I think Zada needs more protection. But I'm not sure what to suggest tbh.

June 7, 2016 7:55 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #13

Casey4321: Assuming she isn't countered, I usually cast her when have enough mana left to also play a cantrip. That's usually enough value to make up for Zada immediately getting nuked. I also plan to include Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast if their price goes down.

But you're right: this deck is very commander-focused. Unfortunately, there aren't many good options to give hexproof in red (obviously I don't want to give her shroud). The only other one I can think of is Champion's Helm (too much money) and Mask of Avacyn (too much mana).

June 7, 2016 8:41 p.m.

nzb2000 says... #14

I dont know much about commander which is why i didnt post a comment. Im really a beginner but i have many of the cards in this deck and they are very good. I was told that a deck should be not full of singles but i dont know if that also applies to commander. Im sure you have heard that already but that is the only advice a actually have. Sorry.

June 8, 2016 9:51 p.m.

mentor6 says... #15

nzb2000, though that is normally true. Commander is a singleton format. Only one of each card is allowed

June 8, 2016 10:47 p.m.

Casey4321 says... #16

Hi NZB. Welcome to the wonderful world of MTG! Commander is a format that suggests using 1 card each in a hundred card deck built around a specific legendary creature. It's a very fun format and if you wanted to jump in Daedulus here has provided a list that would be a great jumping off point! If you like to try! I just want to welcome you and help with your suggestion with Balduvian Rage

June 8, 2016 10:50 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #17

nzb2000: Welcome to Magic :) We were all beginners once, don't worry about it. As my esteemed colleagues have already mentioned, EDH is a special format where everything but basic lands (and Relentless Rats and Shadowborn Apostle) must have only a single copy. I always found that it made deck-building a lot more fun.

If you want, you could always +1 the deck instead of a comment (either is acceptable according to the thread rules) - green button near the top :)

What formats do you play?

June 9, 2016 12:36 a.m.

nzb2000 says... #18

Daedalus19876 O yeah i didnt realize that. I only play magic with about 8 of my friends. We are all about equal. We play alot but our decks are like a bunch of cards put together to form a deck. We think that the decks are good but the decks are not 4 of each card. Hence the decks that i own Tri Colored, Anti Flying, Bestow Deck I might make them pauper. We usually play multiplayer games also.

June 9, 2016 8:33 a.m.

mentor6 says... #19

nzb2000 than your in luck bud! EDH is a multi-player format, and there are a ton of budget builds on this site (this deck is both budget and powerful!). Tell your friends and try it out!

June 9, 2016 11:54 a.m.

cgoober says... #20

June 16, 2016 2:22 a.m.

foxboy1000 says... #21

I looked at this and thought, "Wow these cards are really expensive for a budget deck". Then I realized I was reading your maybeboard. Anyway I like the deck.

November 13, 2016 10:12 p.m.

mack10k says... #22

Wow I am making this deck because it looks so fun. I know I added Goblin Marshal to it, what do you think? Also I was thinking about Goblin Soothsayer as well. 27 bucks on TCG. Better than a precon!

November 21, 2016 9:34 a.m.

mikaellee says... #23

Daedalus19876 what upgrade paths would you recommend from here?

April 29, 2017 7:26 p.m.

mikaellee says... #24

Renegade Tactics seems good. These seem worth considering:Cathartic Reunion, Tormenting Voice, Devils' Playground, Recoup, Descent of the Dragons (probably overpriced for this deck but removal and upgrades for your tokens seems fun)

April 30, 2017 12:30 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #25

mikaellee: I definitely need to re-tweak this deck - I basically haven't touched it since Kaladesh came out :)

April 30, 2017 1:09 p.m.

Xynarth says... #26

I've always been in love with the idea of Fling in this deck. A nice counter to a boardwipe or a funny way to finish the game. Thoughts?

May 23, 2017 11:05 p.m.

IgnisMachina says... #27

The issue with Fling is it isn't copied by Zada

May 25, 2017 4:26 p.m.

Molkiloke says... #28

Tcg has this deck at $47. Also why 101 cards? Sorry new to EDH.

July 9, 2017 11:40 a.m.

mentor6 says... #29

Molkiloke did you bother to read the primer?

July 9, 2017 7:07 p.m.

Fawds0118 says... #30

What about Psychotic Fury

August 25, 2017 10:26 p.m.

Fawds0118 says... #31

Wait dont answer that

August 25, 2017 10:27 p.m.

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