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Works on getting Iona, Sheild of Emeria or Blazing Archon (possibly even both) on turn 1. With Dark Rituals, Entombs and an Exhume or Reanimate, sometimes even an Animate Dead, that is easy, making for turn one indestructibility from cards like Goblin Guide, and other haste cards, or stopping your opponents draw and counter spells (Control being the kryptonite of this deck). It then works on turn two stuff like Avacyn, Angel of Hope taking out a turn 2 Doom Blade, Go for the Throat or even Terminate.

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SIDEBOARD!!!! — Aug. 15, 2012

Thanks to crimsonking69, I was inspired to finish my sideboard!Thoughtseize: A lightweight discard spell with allows me to force my opponents to discard graveyard hate and counterspells on turn 1, making way for giant Ionas, and Griselbrands.Inquisition of Kozilek: The same thing. A little less powerful, but just as useful against mana leaks and counterspells.Unmake: Fun removal in black. 'Nuff said.Gaea's Revenge Every had to deal with a t1-t3 combo win deck? Well, Gaea's Revenge is the guy for you. Comes out fast, trampling you opponents with haste. What they don't block hits them harder in the long run, which makes them want to block, which removes their combos. Useful.

krotash says... #1

How about Angelic Arbiter ? Another similar creature, granted it doesn't stack with archon well. Since most of your heavy hitters are flying, how about Stormtide Leviathan , or maybe even Gisela.

July 3, 2012 8:31 p.m.

krotash says... #2

How about Angelic Arbiter ? Another similar creature, granted it doesn't stack with archon well. Since most of your heavy hitters are flying, how about Stormtide Leviathan , or maybe even Gisela.

July 3, 2012 8:35 p.m.

JamesHughes says... #3

krotash, the only problem I have with Angelic arbiter is that, opponents aren't going to have cast spells the turn it enters the battlefield, and I've cast spells, so It doesn't really help. Also, Stormtide Leviathan would be fine, the only problem is, this deck averages turn 3-4 wins, with only about two or three creatures out. I can't cast the leviathan, and there are better creatures I could be using my reanimation spells on. I've been considering Gisela for a while, but, like the leviathan, there are just so many better options that I don't see the point. Thanks for the feedback though! It made me happy to get my first comment :D

July 3, 2012 8:35 p.m.

krotash says... #4

Haha no worries. Just some suggestion. Comments are always fun to see. If you want to look at it, my deck (and the reason why I suggested stormtide) that I'm working on is deck:one-fish-two-fish-big-fish-stormtide.

July 3, 2012 8:45 p.m.

HoneyBadger says... #5

The only card to start the combo that I can think of would be Zombie Infestation , but I think what you have is probably better.

As far as the creatures go, Maelstrom Wanderer would be pretty sick- and you could probably change up the deck a little so you would have a higher chance of hitting one or 2 other massive creatures off the double cascade

card:Gaea's Revenge is a pain to get rid of if you hate control

All and all, the deck is pretty cool. The only creature I don't like is the 2 Sphinxes. I'd probably go with either one of the above, or Akroma, Angel of Wrath . Protection from black red is WAY more useful than green red, plus she has haste so can attack before any removal might come her way

July 3, 2012 10:28 p.m.

JamesHughes says... #6

HoneyBadger, I was litterally thinking earliar today about taking out those sphinxes. My only problem with Maelstrom Wanderer , card:Gaea's Revenge, and Akroma, Angel of Wrath is that they don't have the kind of epic abilities that blazing archon and iona have. turn one iona turns the game into a tappedout playtest, and a blazing archon just fortifies that. elesh norn removes pesky mana dorks they can use to cast stuff, and griselbrand draws you a brand new hand, as does jin-gitaxias. In addition to the new hand every turn, jin also forces your opponent to discard their hand at the end of their turn, and sheoldred works with the whole "Reanimator" thing, bringing creatures back every turn, no cost, and killing your opponents left over creatures. While most of them don't get used often, they all have game changing effects which inspire turn one forfeits from most who play the game.

Cascade on Maelstrom Wanderer at first glance seems like the perfect ability for this deck. Take a step back, however, and you realize that it would probably end up exiling your best creatures, and putting only an elesh norn onto the battlefield, or maybe a sheoldred, after successfully milling yourself. The only two creatures that cost less that 8 are elesh norn and sheoldred.

So, while I agree the sphinxes don't fit in, I don't know what to put in place of them.

July 3, 2012 10:54 p.m.

HoneyBadger says... #7

Reread the double cascade ability: you don't exile them forever, they just go to the bottom of your library lol. Still, if you play buried alive, then cascade to sheoldred or animate dead and you get another creature out of the graveyard, it'd be insane! I agree that the abilities on the other 2 aren't as game changing as iona and jin, but I was going off the "anticontrol" idea that you said was the kryptonite of the deck.

Either way, I still think all 3 would be better than the sphinx and now that I think about it, better than blazing archon. Who cares if a creature is attacking you if you have ANY of your big, nasty creatures out. What could they possibly be attacking with that could be scarier than any of your creatures? Once they are out, it's pretty much "find a way to remove them or die". Blazing archon... not hard to remove. A number of legacy decks, like storm decks, don't even bother attacking anyways. I'd stock at least one gaea, and maelstrom sounds sooo sexy in theory- DOUBLE CASCADE! Ugh- so good. Acroma you could skip admittedly as she is the weakest of the 3

July 3, 2012 11:31 p.m.

JamesHughes says... #8

But, when I get out an iona with a Reanimate , it puts me down to 11 life, making me an easy target. I like Blazing Archon , because it takes out unblockable creatures that I couldn't take out myself, like Invisible Stalker . My only problem with the card:Gaea's Revenge is that I'm not casting it, so It can be countered. I'm using a spell to put it onto the battlefield. If someone were to use a mana leak on a reanimate, the "uncounterable" effect wouldn't be there.

Maelstrom Wanderer I guess would be cool, so I'll put in one or two. My only problem is that it wouldn't be my ideal t1 move. I'd much rather get an iona out and cancel my opponent's game (Save for one or two Iron Myr ) than get out a creature that just has haste. Sure, it's 7 damage, but if someone were to pull a Thunderous Wrath , or two Lightning Bolt s, it would be screwed.

July 4, 2012 11:13 a.m.

JamesHughes says... #9

Shit! I just realized, Maelstrom wanderer only uses cascade when you CAST it! I can't do that.

July 4, 2012 11:18 a.m.

krotash says... #10

Can you reanimate Eldrazi? they're pretty boss and an early annihilator rocks.

July 4, 2012 4:02 p.m.

krotash says... #11

Can you reanimate Eldrazi? they're pretty boss and an early annihilator rocks.

July 4, 2012 4:03 p.m.

JamesHughes says... #12

I could, but I don't get the cast ability because you didn't cast them.

July 4, 2012 4:55 p.m.

HoneyBadger says... #13

that's a shame about the maelstrom. Gaea can't be the target of nongreen spells or abilites, so he's safe from most all removal once he's out. You can't reanimate the eldrazi cause they get shuffled back if they are put into the graveyard from anywhere.

July 4, 2012 6:14 p.m.

JamesHughes says... #14

HoneyBadger, could you help me come up with a counterproof sideboard please? I don't know what to do! DX

July 4, 2012 6:34 p.m.

phillthy_rich says... #15

what about a Reya Dawnbringer ?

July 4, 2012 11:15 p.m.

Litewarior says... #16

Most reanimator decks are Blue/Black, so they can run Show and Tell against graveyard hate, and counterspells against the opponents counterspells. The only two spells I can think of that prevent counterspells are Xantid Swarm and Vexing Shusher , neither of which are black.

July 4, 2012 11:26 p.m.

krotash says... #17

Grand Abolisher and card:Autumn's Veil also fit on the preventing counters list, but they too aren't black.

July 4, 2012 11:39 p.m.

CrimsonKing says... #18

Thoughtseize could help you against control. Maybe side board some so you can discard their counter.

August 10, 2012 11:27 p.m.

JamesHughes says... #19

user:CrimsonKing69 thanks for the help. I definitely put those in.

August 15, 2012 9:26 p.m.

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Legality

This deck is Legacy legal.

Cards 60
Avg. CMC 3.47
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