The mana seems a bit low. You dont have enough low drop artifacts to get to Herald fast enough. I love the grixis approach, but seems slow.
February 5, 2017 8:40 a.m.
I would drop the Pia's Revolution for more land.Implement of combustion seems good, stops Copy Cat for 1 mana and it feeds your improvise. If you're playing Heart of Kiran, I would reccommend going all-in and playing more Planeswalkers.
February 5, 2017 5:33 p.m.
February 5, 2017 6:27 p.m.
February 5, 2017 6:35 p.m.
It can deal 1 damage to a player, (or A certain Planeswalker that goes to 1 loyalty when it activates its minus)....
February 5, 2017 7:59 p.m.
Yes that's true but Shock deals 2 damage so it's more aggressive... what do you do if you were me?
February 6, 2017 2:21 a.m.
This deck is great! lol Tezzeret's Touch on vehicles is genius! Why didn't I think of that :). What I found pretty beast is Bastion Inventor+Stitcher's Graft+Cathar's Shield. Anyway could you take a look at my deck(U/B Improvise)? I think your feedback would be very insightful.
February 13, 2017 5:54 p.m.
Hello! Thank you for your feedback!! I will go now to see your deck! I put the Bastion into Sideboard because I want to play the Herald so I don't want to have to choose between them. But your combo is very lethal!
February 13, 2017 6:01 p.m.
It also makes control decks cry a little lol. No spot removal for you!
February 13, 2017 6:50 p.m.
I like the use of Chandra here! Are the Servo Schematics effective enough to run?
February 17, 2017 4:54 a.m.
It's very usefull! At first sight it seems not so strong but in an improvise is excellent! At turn 3 you can have already 3 artifact!
February 17, 2017 5:34 a.m.
Hello, it is a very nice deck!I'm playing it from 4 days and it is great!I did a little mod on mana side by adding 2 Concealed Courtyard and removing 1 Swamp and 1 Spire, so i can add to my side card like Declaration in Stone or Stasis Snare.I'm going to play it tonight at FNM.Tell me what you think!Thanks in advance (and sorry for my bad english!)
February 17, 2017 5:46 a.m.
This is a great deck. I am still going with my U/B version. I feel the combination of Scrap Trawler and Tezzeret's Touch should tested in some capacity.
February 17, 2017 6:54 a.m.
Sherring92 first of all thank you and I'm happy that you like this deck so much. I like your idea to use Declaration but I think that you don't need to use Concealed Courtyard because spire can give you white mana and you need the swamp to have untapped the split lands! Let me know how FNM goes!
Archangel_of_Entropy thanks a lot! Your combo is sweat! I like it so much!
February 17, 2017 10:10 a.m.
Hello Wino, I guess you're right about the Courtyard. I got 3rd yesterday at FNM because in the last match I got really nothing in my hand. Anyway it's a very good deck, I'll try some mod on these days and I will let you know how is it going :)
February 18, 2017 8:09 a.m.
Very nice deck, I used this deck and won 4 out of 5 matches with friends against modern eldrazi, mill and soldier token deck. The thing I changed, I removed 3 mountains and added 3 spirebluff canal. Also I did sideboard 1 Aligned Hedron Network and 1 Spell Shrivel, but that is just for my own meta.
February 20, 2017 9:53 a.m.
I like so much your sideboard ideas! I take the mountains because of the split lands! But your idea is very good probably I will consider it!
You have right that if you don't have turn 1 or 2 drop of an artifact you are dead ahah.. but I have many artifact that cost 2. So I'm not scared about that. Also because I can mulligan my first hand and an artifact always come.. I chose to not put inot too many artifact creatures because if I have improvise I will not use them in defence so I prefer to have only artifact that give me some advantages. For example Implement of Combustion is useful to kill a damaged planeswalker and draw a card and Servo Schematic comes with a servo so at 2 mana I have 2 artifact! Also these 2 cards are very functional with Tezzeret's Touch or the -7 of Tezzeret the Schemer himself.
February 20, 2017 11:52 a.m.
February 21, 2017 4:23 a.m.
Hello viperfang4 thanks for the Upvote! I like the idea of Transgress the Mind while I don't like so much Bomat Courier in this deck because is to easy to remove and you risk to lose all exiled cards.
February 21, 2017 1:44 p.m.
You risk it, but it does not matter that much, you can respond to removal spells by saccing it. A lot of people surprisingly let Courier go further than it should and it tends to rack up damage and gain cards, it is a killer against control. And once people have a blocker up for it, they tend to let it live and ignore it. I would still recomend 3-4 of them in the mb.
February 21, 2017 5:09 p.m.
On this way of thoughts I have to reconsider it... for now I will put into maybeboard and try to put him into the deck. As always thank you very much!
February 21, 2017 6:34 p.m.
I also wonder how effective Reckless Fireweaver and Inventor's Apprentice would be in here. With the amount of artifacts played, fireweaver could rack up quite a bit of damage, apprentice would also be near guarenteed a 2/3 one drop (which might be better than my courier suggestion, despite courier still being good).
February 22, 2017 2:48 a.m.
I like the idea with Inventor's Apprentice but I don't know what changes I have to do to put him in. Any suggestions?
February 22, 2017 2:59 a.m.
For a 4 of, drop 1 servo schematic, 1 Tez Touch, 1 Implement, and 1 Thopterist maybe.
February 22, 2017 3:06 a.m.
Tezzeret's Touch works so good and with 3 I can have it very fast. Also is a very strong card. Probably I will drop 1 Maverick Thopterist and 1 Servo Schematic for a 2 drop. But I'm not so sure just have to think about it. Thanks for now!
February 22, 2017 3:13 a.m.
How fast are you getting Herald down and do you usually get multiple of them on the board?
February 22, 2017 3:21 a.m.
Elder Deep-Fiend could also be an easy emerge finisher off thopterist to tap down lands and force a discard at the end with Herald. Metalwork Colossus would probably not quite fit in here, i don't think he has enough noncreature artifact support to be cast easy. Maybe take out 1 thopterist, 1 schematic, and 1 negate for apprentice to make it a 3 of.
February 22, 2017 3:36 a.m.
The Elder, for me, is not so good here is really to slow and demoralized the deck goal. I'm thinking about Apprentice because is a very good suggestion. In these days I tried the configuration with him and the decided. Thanks
February 22, 2017 3:41 a.m.
Sorry I intend that elder distracts me from the deck goal. My acautomatic corrector fails ahahah
February 22, 2017 3:46 a.m.
Any recent changes to this deck that have improved it ?
February 27, 2017 4:40 p.m.
February 27, 2017 5:10 p.m.
What would you put in place of l illiana if you don't have one?
I was looking into putting ornithopters over the implement and possible adding a couple of reverse engineers somehow. What are your veiws ?
March 1, 2017 2:38 a.m.
I use the implement only because is very good when you face a Planes or when dies. In a previous configuration I hate 4 Ornithopter but it's quite useless because can block only 1/1 and didn't kill them so I decided to replace them with the implement. If you don't have liliana I suggest to put Metallic Rebuke or Bastion Inventor.Personally I don't like Reverse Engineer because i have to use my artifact for herald and maverik improvise. I said so because with 4 copies of both in have at leastone of them in hand each game.So I don't need to tap my mana to draw 3 cards. If a need to draw I often sack the implement or use Chandra's first ability afer my draw step.
But this is my way to play. So you can replace liliana with that combination that is probably the best: -1 liliana, -1 Herald and add 2 Bastion Inventor.Also if you want you can try with 3 Ornithopter and 1 Tezzeret's Touch instead of the implement, but as I said implement is very helpful.
March 1, 2017 3:14 a.m.
Love the build and the concepts. I've been working on a similar one but instead of Chandra I play 2 Saheeli Rai and 2 Master of Metal and also add mechanized production for another win condition.
March 4, 2017 5:39 p.m.
Good idea Saheeli! And also Mechazized production on the Thopters! If you put the deck on this site give the link that I'm curious!;)
March 4, 2017 6:29 p.m.
Working on it...I'm new to the site so I'm getting my barrings straight lol As soon as I saw your build I was like...this guy is on the same page as me haha
March 4, 2017 7:15 p.m.
I understand! Work on it and if you want some help on this deck ask without problems! Saheeli is a good choice and I'm pretty curious to see what you build!!
March 4, 2017 7:22 p.m.
Love grixis in standard right now. I think Chandra is good in the deck, especially as you can do a maverick turn 3 and Herald turn 4 with improvise, and chandra turn 5. It's a great curve of cards. I would consider Heart of Kiran in my deck if I was playing more walkers but at $20 a piece I can't get my hands on a Chandra right now lol I like the Aethersphere Harvester but wouldn't run it without having at least two Dynavolt Tower in the deck to ensure I would have the energy and the tower can deal 3 damage. I initially ran the Bastion in my deck as you can cast him for cheap but and he has hexproof but I found I usually only used him as a blocker and I felt better taking him out for more control or aggro. I'll keep an eye on your deck to see if you make any revisions from time to time.
March 8, 2017 6:51 p.m.
Thank for the comment! I think that if a Bolas pw comes with Amonkhet I will add him to the mainboard. I hope in some new powerful artifact also! Probably better than Renegade Map or Servo Schematic. We will see.
March 9, 2017 2:22 a.m.
I saw you up-voted my own Grixis deck, so I thought I would return the favor :) I'm a very big fan of this current setup and also hope Bolas makes this deck even more fun.
I used Servo Schematic in my first version as well, but got really annoyed that it basically does nothing once it comes out (besides making a servo) :/ I opted for Prophetic Prism since this deck tends to run on the low-side for mana and Prison allows you to basically change whatever have into whatever you need. I also preferred it for the draw function to keep my hand-size up. With your Thopterist and Pia, I've found that you don't run low on Artifact creatures or artifacts in general to use Improvise.
Keep it up!
March 15, 2017 8:29 p.m.
Thanks Obial I like yours deck too it's very similar to mine and the grixis improvise in general is gold for me! I do not consider the Prism because I want to have a lot of artifact in play in the early turns. So I think that Servo Schematic helps me this way at cost 2 comes 2 artifact! I often sack it with Herald ability so in some way became usefull ahaha. Prism is very usefull to draw cards and give me some usefull mana I have to think about that change. The thing that I like of your deck is the Combo between Bastion Inventor and Inventor's Goggles! For now I decided to do no changes to this deck untill Amonkhet comes out because I hope in a Nicole Bolas pw and probably we have more artifact lands and other spell that can improve this deck ideas!
March 16, 2017 4:06 a.m.
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|Date added||10 months|
|Last updated||8 months|
This deck is Standard legal.
|Tokens||1/1 Servo, Tezzeret, 1/1 Thopter, Etherium Cell|
|Folders||UB Metal, AER Standard, Standard, Affinity, [AER], Grixis, Deck Ideas, aer, Interesting Standard Decks, thopters, See all 15|
|Top rank||#14 on 2017-02-25|