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Ok with this deck I dont have creatures to attack so im trying to grind you down hard and fast..(twss)....I have some big name cards to help me do that with Traumatize and Mind Funeral...also love the Royal Assassin to take out any creature trying to attack...

Any suggestions please just let me know



Epochalyptik says... #2

Traumatize is actually a pretty bad card for a mill deck. Although its effect seems good at first, consider that you pay 5 to get half their cards, then every other Traumatize in your deck/hand instantly loses effectiveness. The only time it's really worth casting is in the beginning of the game before your other mill cards start reducing its effectiveness (when it's too expensive to afford).

You say you don't have any creatures for attacking, but you should still think about including creatures for utility. card:Jace's Archivist works well with a mill strategy and card:Jace's Erasure if you want to go that route. Hedron Crab is another creature that's great for utility and works well as defense.

Also, Memory Erosion only seems average. It's a bit expensive considering it might not do too much in the long run.

The tutor spells don't seem necessary. You don't have a combo here that's worth searching up (I.e. Grindstone + card:Painter's Servant).

Drop 2x Island and 2x Swamp for 4x Underground River . The added flexibility will help you out a lot.

Glimpse the Unthinkable is a better mill card than some of the ones you've included. You may want to replace Traumatize with it if you're intent on doing spell-based mill. Also, Mind Sculpt is an effective mill sorcery.

A note about my last comment: spell-based mill decks tend to be less effective than combo-based mill decks because you're essentially forced to spend mana at sorcery speed (remember that the control elements of your deck need that mana for instants on your opponent's turn). Combo-based decks set up to do all the milling at once, leaving mana open until then to control the game and protect their combos. They are more consistent and effective.

July 29, 2012 7:05 p.m.

Azrubael says... #3

The Demonic Tutor is not legal in modern format, and without a focus on combos I tend to agree with Epochalyptik that you could use the space more effectively elsewhere. Specifically with Mill type decks I find it best to make them as focused as possible on one style of milling, If you intend to do creature milling then Hedron Crab and Undead Alchemist are very nice, and they free up your mana to focus on control and removal. If you want to focus more on the draw mill like your Font of Mythos then you may also want some Howling Mine or Otherworld Atlas and to make it more effective I would add card:Jace's Erasure. I will also say that while Traumatize sounds like a great card in my experience by the time I have ever been able to get it into play it only grabs about 10 -12 cards. So unless your opponent has a Battle of Wits deck you would be better suited with a Glimpse the Unthinkable

If you would like feel free to look at my mill decks. 451 is very fast thanks to some effective combos, but it is playing to the Legacy format, while I am still prototyping Brad Bury for a modern format. Hope I helped and +1 just because I love mill decks.

July 29, 2012 8:59 p.m.

Vogie says... #4

Well, you don't know what modern is, as it doesn't have Counterspell , Dark Ritual & Demonic Tutor . Get crackin' :)

You don't have any protection vs creature rush. I'd suggest Fog Bank .

Switch Unsummon for Vapor Snag , replace counterspells with Rune Snag , drop Traumatize to 2-of, grab some Glimpse the Unthinkable and start playing around with recurring-sorceries... using Spellweaver Helix , Panoptic Mirror , or perhaps even Spellweaver Volute targeting a Thought Scour , Dream Twist , and your cheap bounce (maybe add Into the Roil ?)(since most of your spells are, in fact, sorceries).

You can also switch to the "free mill" with Font of Mythos and the like, make sure you add a playset of card:Jace's Erasure. If you do go that route, I'd suggest making the starting library bigger (i.e. more than 60 cards), and invest in some of those juicy Dimir tutors.

You can also look at Broken Ambitions and Archive Trap s for the sideboard.

July 29, 2012 10:18 p.m.

BamaMagic52 says... #5

yeah i get modern and standard mixed up..we just play for fun around the house so I dont really know what mode we're playing

July 30, 2012 3:12 p.m.

CrimsonKing says... #6

Neat deck, Try Mind Funeral ! Sometimes it's not so good but you can mill a huge chunk with it if your opponent isn't shuffling very well.

August 1, 2012 10:29 p.m.

BamaMagic52 says... #7

I have 4 Mind Funeral in here haha

August 2, 2012 11:06 a.m.

Jokernaught says... #8

I like Nemesis of Reason and Szadek, Lord of Secrets when I mill.

August 17, 2012 12:33 p.m.

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