Angels of Fire ~ Boros Midrange

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Southland says... #1

To much high-cost stuff take out the goblins put more low-end creature's. That two drop mentor 2/3 is really good

September 16, 2018 12:55 p.m.

Fugl says... #2

Southland Thanks for the comment. This is a midrange deck, and therefore the curve is a little higher than what you would find in a aggressive deck. Boros Challenger is not the best creature since it doesn't help flip Path of Mettle  Flip. If I were to run an aggressive deck I would play Knight of Grace instead. It's going to be way better in post rotation standard. The deck could use some more cheaper rmeoval spells, but I'm waiting to see which answers are better depending on the meta. Thanks for the suggestion though!

September 16, 2018 2:04 p.m.

DeadStrife says... #3

I imagine you're running way too many lands. I think the big issue this deck has (and just R/W in general usually has) is it's lack of draw. Consider adding your Mentor of the Meek to the main board or a second Arch of Orazca for some much needed draw. Huatli might be a little under utilized compared to another angel, but I think she'll be fine overall. All in all a fun deck list I think if you can get it rolling. That's an easy +1 from me.

For new card suggestions, Sarkhan's Unsealing could add some extra bang to the entrance of your biggest angels. Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants assists your little guys and mentors. I think if we're looking at pure fun, I think the Weatherlight is a blast to play with in Midrange and it'll help you get Aurelia and Lyra super quick, and it can be piloted easily enough by your setup's 3 drops.

Everything passed this is kinda safe to ignore if you're happy with your deck as Midrange. While it's kind of a moot point since you're not aggro, I agree with Southland in that Boros Challenger has potential, but if you're dead set on triggering Path of Mettle, consider Sunhome Stalwart. Knight of Grace is good and pretty darn cool, and it doesn't die to black removal or Vraska, Golgari Queen but it's not going to help push the game for you or synergize with Aurelia.

Lastly, I think your deck lends itself really well to a Tempo build with your current costs. Consider looking into Goblin Banneret, he can even Mentor your Angels if you give him a chance! Playing the Goblin or Healer's Hawk gives you a nice curve to play your angels into, and they're both great Mentor targets. It's not quite aggro, because you'd be playing them as filler creatures hoping to get some advantageous trades as your opponent burns removal on them. It's just a little more buffer room for you to sweep the game with your Angel Army when Resplendent Angel and Lyra Dawnbringer hit the board.

Obviously keep a look out for the new GRN cards, since Tajic, Blade of the Legion will be (probably) getting a new card. He maaaaaaaay be useful for you. :)

September 16, 2018 9:56 p.m.

Fugl says... #4

Hi DeadStrife. Thanks a lot for the comment and the up vote! It is great to get some feedback, even when we still are in spoiler season, so a lot can change.

I would like to answer each of your points:

I would not go below 25 unless I would cut two 5 drops. This deck and standard in general, you need to hit your land drops. This deck really wants to be able to play on curve, and at least be able to potentially activate Resplendent Angel at some point consistently. The deck does lack card draw. Losing Chandra, Torch of Defiance really hurts this deck, and I have considered many different options, and Mentor of the Meek could come into the mainboard, but I think it would hurt the overall gameplay game 1. Huatli, Warrior Poet is just a bit of testing and for fun. Ideally she would be the new Tajic ! Or Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants, but you would need to play 8-12 two drops for him to shine. Weatherlight is sweet! Always wanted that card to work, but is a little slow. Abrade not being in standard anymore might make it work. Sarkhan's Unsealing is a no-no. Lyra Dawnbringer is the only way to trigger the card, and to make it work you need to play much more higher end creatures.

The problem I have with Boros Challenger is that the mentor ability lends itself to be better in an aggressive deck. The power level is a little low, and Mentor does not strike me as a great constructed ability you want to be build around. If you want to synergize your creatures and play with the mentor ability, I would play Goblin Banneret and Boros Challenger. Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice and Legion Warboss does have mentor, but I would argue that this a just extra topping, since we are playing them for the static abilities. As I told Southland,Knight of Grace is better. Also gets the trigger with History of Benalia.

I am going to change a lot of the numbers and the deck in general the next weeks to come. Still needs some testing, but it could be a fun deck to play at FNM. I tend to tune things and see how far you can take it, so please comeback in a bit of time and check it out again if you are interested. Again, thanks a bunch for the comment and suggestions!

Another thing I'm considering is adding blue to really spice things up, and make it as close to Jeskai Aggro we saw in INN-RAV standard, but Mantis Rider might be a bit too good for standard again ;)

September 17, 2018 1:34 a.m.

Patdypat says... #5

Dismissive Pyromancer is probably something you want in this deck instead of the goblins. Card draw, removal and a creature on board at turn 2 is probably pretty good for your deck with all the high cmc stuff.

September 18, 2018 4:42 p.m.

Fugl says... #6

Patdypat Thanks for the suggestion. I have considered Dismissive Pyromancer. Not quite sure yet if it's good enough. It's a bit slow, but good in grindier matches. Might be worth it when we know the meta. Legion Warboss is absolutely insane, and I would never cut it from any deck that plays the beatdown strategy. It's basically Goblin Rabblemaster.

I will keep Pyromancer in my maybe category!

September 18, 2018 5:06 p.m.

KiroiSenko says... #7

Hello, i guess boros should be consider just as an aggro options, far more viable than the midrange one, i mean, Ghitu Lavarunner, Haazda Marshal and going on to keep up the pace with mentor and then maybe using Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice as a top end curve. Just my 2 cents

September 20, 2018 6:20 a.m.

DeadStrife says... #8

I spaced out while reading Sarkhan's Unsealing apparently. I keep thinking it's CMC based, not power based, for some reason.

Anyways, I decided to peak back in now that the full spoilers are out and I'm enjoying the updated deck list! Justice Strike and the new Tajic, Legion's Edge are both pretty cool cards. I've come back with some new suggestions too, but these are mostly fun ideas rather than cards that will truly help you optimize your deck.

Response // Resurgence This card is conditional and can honestly be a dead card for you, but the fact that it can act as extremely cost effective removal or as a spell you can use to close the game out with is important. The first strike and vigilance it gives your creatures is notable as well for Path of Mettle.

Chance for Glory I want to bring this card up everywhere I can. I thought this card was horrible when I first saw it, but the fact that the Indestructible stays on this card is absolutely terrifying, this can fit snugly as a single card in a deck.

Divine Visitation turns your Goblins into Angels. I don't know what else to say about this card other than it's hilarious and that's amazing.

I don't recall if I suggested them and they're a fair bit slower than what you're playing, but Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, and Karn, Scion of Urza could do wonders for you. Teferi does demand you splash blue, but that also opens the door for you to do a lot you seemed to have been thinking of doing already. I think the cards we have in Standard lend themselves pretty well to that color combo if you decide to build another deck for it. And while Karn doesn't ulti as strongly for you as some other decks, his pseudo-draw 2 is exceptional here.

September 20, 2018 7:06 a.m.

DwaginFodder says... #9

What have you tested against (if at all)?

September 21, 2018 10:46 a.m.

Fugl says... #10

KiroiSenko Thanks for the comment and suggestions! You might very well be right that Boros lends itself to being more aggressive than midrangy, but I do believe that the color pair has more overall card quality in midrange. The angel curve can be devasting versus green and other agro strategies, but the deck still has the ability for an aggressive draw to threaten control decks.

Lavarunner is a nice card, but the synergy is not there. Too few payoff cards, and if you want to run it, it would be a different deck. I would rather run Goblin Banneret.

Boros aggro might be the better option, but it depends on a lot of factors to be true. Right now I’m counting on playing better cards with a little less focused gameplan, to win through raw quality

DeadStrife Haha no worries on Sarkhan's Unsealing. I did a lot of changes daily to hit the right numbers. I like Response/Chance for Glory/Divine Visitation, and it might be good enough to run MB as fun ofs, but I believe its better to have a focused mainboard. I might give them a go for fun some time.

Regards to splashing blue. To go Jeskai would require to cut History, Resplendent and other white cards. The duals lends itself to a heavier focus on red cards. I can be a smaller splash of blue if Fog decks, Esper control and other variants of combo/control runs rampant.

I like Karn, but I just sold my copies.. Anyway he would be pretty good in sideboard nonetheless. Would run if I had 2-3 of him!

DwaginFodder So far only goldfishing and small tests. I will soon be able to playtest more. It’s also hard to know which decks will be prevalent in the first weeks of standard.

September 21, 2018 5:39 p.m.

tasherwood says... #11

Really cool deck! I'm also planning on building and playing around with a deck similar to this, so I'll stop by with my findings and check yours!

September 21, 2018 6:35 p.m.

Sidebrowns says... #12

You seem to be going for the same sort of strategy I am. Except I'm going to danitha/kwende boros route. As I feel that deck type can take off in this standard. The issue is that I just can't find a way to survive the removal heavy Meta with 2 toughness creatures.

September 25, 2018 1:09 p.m.

Sidebrowns says... #13

Also maybe it's just me being a cheap jew, but I don't see the value of phoenix. I'm not arguing that it's an amazing card. However with the easy removal of it in this format with ixalan's binding and baffling end and whatnot. I feel it doesn't serve its purpose unless you just catch the opponent without even a shock.

September 25, 2018 1:16 p.m.

Fugl says... #14

Sidebrowns Thanks for the comment. Yes, exiling effects is really good against the Phoenix, but you need a versatile creature like the Phoenix in a midrange deck. It plays well on defence and offence. It survives sweepers, destroy removal like Assassin's Trophy etc and blocks/hits really well. It's stil early in testing so the 4 drop could be something else such as Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants or Shalai, Voice of Plenty. The deck has Rekindling Phoenix and Banefire as flex spots, so it might change after a couple of weeks!

September 25, 2018 1:49 p.m.

Patdypat says... #15

Sidebrowns if you go with that argument against Rekindling Phoenix you can say that about every creature in the format. Removal is Removal and the Phoenix withstands a lot of it and has great evasion. If they need to use Exile effects on it they dont have it for your Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice or other win cons. Rekindling Phoenix is exaclty what this deck needs.

September 25, 2018 2:06 p.m.

Sidebrowns says... #16

PatdypatI mean yeah removal is removal. But my point is it's easily negated and doesn't exactly soak up any decent removal. Exile is exile. But I'm referring to anyone using the plethora of one and two drop removal on its token. I feel it ends up being a dead draw when it doesn't even really stop your opponent too much. But that's just my playstyle coming to odds with yours. I feel the two cards could be better spent with another creature or another spell that added more to the deck other than removal bait.

September 25, 2018 2:37 p.m.

Sidebrowns says... #17

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to say this is a bad deck. I'm just saying i don't think cards should be put in a deck just because it is good. Because obviously it is but at just a two of how is it really helping the deck. Patdypat

September 25, 2018 2:39 p.m.

Fugl says... #18

Sidebrowns I get what you are saying and I dont mind your opinion!

Rekindling Phoenix is a good card, and yes you dont just put good cards together in a magic deck just because of their powerlevel (you could argue that since this deck is more midrangey, its fine to just play good cards). However the Phoenix is an aggressive and evasive red creature that swings for 4 in the air, and can be a hasty threat (Path of Mettle  Flip flip). It works really well against other red decks as we saw in the RB Vehicles era we are moving out of this rotation. Being a flying creature lets us be able to threaten planeswalkers in the air, and with an Aurelia pump it swings for a big chunck. It trades well with other midrange creatures, and forces the opponent to either use an expensive removal spell Vraska's Contempt or Ixalan's Binding which is just a straight 1 for 1, or block losing a creature, and using a destroy removal spell which gives you card advantage.

Besides it fills a hole in the curve. Out of all the different 4 drops in the format, this is the best of the bunch. If you are playing an aggressive aggro/midrange beatdown deck I would always consider playing it. If you want to be more aggressive you could cut, but that would be the same case as for Lyra. I'm trying to build a midrange beatdown deck, and it might be that I'm completely wrong in a month time, but I'm going to stick to the big birdy.

It's not just because it's good, it's versatile.

September 25, 2018 3:23 p.m. Edited.

Patdypat says... #19

Hey all good, i understand what you are saying but the thing is, that he wants to build a Mid-range deck that wants mostly pressure your opponent and get 1 for 2 trades out of it. Rekindling Phoenix is a 1 for 2 in most situation and when it hits the board it needs to be dealt with. That card is not in there bc it is a good card it is in this deck cause it has synergies with the win condition he wants to play. Could he build a full Boros aggro deck, sure he could. Would it be better idk, maybe. But what i am sure of is that Phoenix is a must in a mid range Red/boros deck bc it is the best card a 4 mana for the win condition you want to play.

September 25, 2018 3:35 p.m.

Sidebrowns says... #20

Yknow what, PatdypatJeppeFugl thats a fair point. i can see exactly what you mean. And having not thought about the card advantage aspect of how it always takes at least 2 cards, whether a blocker and removal, or just straight two removal, i can understand entirely what you mean.

September 25, 2018 4:41 p.m.

Argy says... #21

You should say "give the deck a +1" not "an +1.

You only use "an" when the next word doesn't have a consonant sound.

Both + and 1 both start with consonants.

September 26, 2018 9:42 a.m.

Fugl says... #22

Argy Fixed. Thanks!

September 26, 2018 9:48 a.m.

Argy says... #23

This deck plays nicely.

You get a +1 from me.

September 26, 2018 10:02 a.m.

Southland says... #24

Hello I'm back I saw you added the boros Challenger. I actually play tested this last night for about 5 hours and I'm extremely unsatisfied with boros Challenger. It's way to slow and the pump is a high Mana cost and doesn't really bring any value to the deck unless you have a ton of Mana available to spend it's not worth it because if you get stuck with 2 of these opening hand and running a 4 of it wouldn't be worth it and the only thing good is if it survives then it will mentor a 1/1 unless you pump something but by itself not worth it. I do however like the addition of rekindling Phoenix, me being an opponent seeing a 4/3 flyer with the angel that gives it +2/0...I'd be annoyed with both flyers. I think seal away would be a good card for the extra removal and maybe lava coil and fight with fire for the deck that runs the 1/5 murmuring mystic and maybe some board wipes because this format has allot of midrange get wide type decks popping up. Good deck I will be play testing some changes in it.

October 1, 2018 9:08 a.m.

Fugl says... #25

Southland Yeah you are properly right about Challenger. I think the next best thing is to try Knight of Grace, Dire Fleet Daredevil or Adento Vanguard. Phoenix have really impressed me so far.

October 1, 2018 2:38 p.m.

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