Ghave's token army

Commander / EDH

rockleemyhero Score: 13


Description

Looking to make some cuts here for more cards. Check out the maybeboard. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

have a couple of infinite combos but trying to steer away from them because they are unfun. but for the sake of them...

Ghave, Guru of Spores +Phyrexian Altar +Doubling Season =infinite creatures or tokens

ghave with Earthcraft plus Doubling Season and reusable sac outlet=more infinites

Awesome, "more fair" combos/syngergies:

Avenger of Zendikar +Cathars' Crusade =lots of BIG tokens

Azusa, Lost but Seeking +Oracle of Mul Daya =mega ramp

Sun Titan +Pernicious Deed =board control

Birthing Pod =Avenger of Zendikar into Craterhoof Behemoth next turn

Elspeth, Knight-Errant +Doubling Season =insta ultimate

Looking for suggestions!!! I've tweaked with this deck A LOT. Please please comment! Looking to make it synergistic and theme focused but still as competitive as possible for 1 on 1 and/or multiplayer. Thanks for looking!

Suggestions

zandl says... #1

Woodland CemeteryMTG Card: Woodland Cemetery, Isolated ChapelMTG Card: Isolated Chapel, and the shock-lands are all good candidates. The shock-lands go particularly well with your fetch-lands.

March 2, 2012 3:45 p.m.

zachapotamus says... #2

This deck is cool. I would recommend putting in an Intangible VirtueMTG Card: Intangible Virtue. The +1/+1 and Vigilance will be crazy with how many tokens you'll have.

March 2, 2012 4:04 p.m.

zandl says... #3

Also, would be insane here. All of his abilities give you a big advantage with all of the token support you have.

March 2, 2012 4:09 p.m.

zandl says... #4

Oh. I forgot. Doubling SeasonMTG Card: Doubling Season gives Ghave, Guru of SporesMTG Card: Ghave, Guru of Spores double +1/+1 counters.

March 2, 2012 4:10 p.m.

rockleemyhero says... #5

didnt realize that about doubling season concerning the tokens! yeah im really trying to get doubling season. garruk relentless also. @zachapotamus is intangible virue worth it? I wasn't sure if it was going to be underwhelming with all the other pumps i have.

March 2, 2012 4:45 p.m.

zandl says... #6

Yeah. Doubling SeasonMTG Card: Doubling Season is pretty stupid. Planeswalkers come out with double Loyalty counters, you get double tokens (quadruple with Parallel LivesMTG Card: Parallel Lives out), and your creatures get twice the counters.

March 2, 2012 4:51 p.m.

zachapotamus says... #7

@rockleemyhero True all those other cards are pretty good. But maybe you should try Intangible VirtueMTG Card: Intangible Virtue and see how it goes?

March 3, 2012 10:24 a.m.

rockleemyhero says... #8

what can i take out for Intangible VirtueMTG Card: Intangible Virtue?

March 9, 2012 3:53 p.m.

card:Ashnod's Altar + card:Cathars' Crusade + Ghave is an infinite combo. Also, card:Cathars' Crusade is a great card for any Ghave deck in general.

And maybe take out one of your land grabbing cards like Cultivate for Intangible Virtue .

May 26, 2012 4:45 p.m.

zandl says... #10

y u no Phyrexian Arena ? It's almost cheating, it's so good.

May 26, 2012 5:04 p.m.

rockleemyhero says... #11

Thanks guys for your comments!! Truly appreciate the feedback!

@christianarmatas Yes, this deck is loaded with some disgusting infinites. Just added in card:Cathars' Crusade, can't wait to try it out! I had Intangible Virtue before but I find it underwhelming. Its limited ability in only providing for my tokens and a minor pump is very weak compared to a lot of other cards I have to do similar functions. It's on theme but I find it too cute.

@zandl Don't get me wrong I love me some Phyrexian Arena , I'm just scared of it cuz I know it draws tremendous hate in multiplayer format. If I see some of my buddies playing it, I'll throw it in too if they don't seem to target people with it out like crazy.

May 28, 2012 1:55 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #12

Necropotence draws more hate than Phyrexian Arena lol

May 31, 2012 9:53 p.m.

zandl says... #13

In my personal experiences, Phyrexian Arena doesn't garner too much hate, if any. And even if it does, you're drawing double cards for next-to no cost. Unless the other three players all just gang up on you and no one else, you should be able to at least fend of your opponents until someone does something more threatening, which I think (after the third turn) shouldn't take too long.

May 31, 2012 10:07 p.m.

rockleemyhero says... #14

@zandi ah i see....yeah it last least draws an overcommittment into one of my several board wipes. I'll add it back in. I'm having trouble finding out what to drop though...

May 31, 2012 10:42 p.m.

MAC9090 says... #15

Mimic Vat....its great in edh...and it makes tokens....imagine solemn similicrum tokens on the vat with doubling season out...make 2 solemns sac them to ghave to get 4 counters and draw 2 cards....or acidic slime tokens...or whatever you need to make tokens

June 3, 2012 4:04 p.m.

rockleemyhero says... #16

@MAC9090 exactly!! more dream scenarios include fleshbag maurader....primeval titan......avenger of zendikar.... so evil :)

June 3, 2012 9:07 p.m.

Pangmonger says... #17

Get some undying creatures, an undying creature and either ashnod's altar or earthcraft with ghave out means infinite creatures;earthcraft: tap Young Wolf to sac it to ghave, it comes back, tap it to remove counter for a saproling, tap saproling to sac young wolf, tap it to remove counter for a saproling..... repeat

ashnod's altar: sac Young Wolf for 2 mana, it comes back with a counter, remove counter with floating mana for a saproling...... repeat

Personally i love Mikaeus, the Unhallowed for this. Mikaeus and vish'kal is another infinite combo, sac vish to himself, he comes back with a counter, remove counter to give something else -1/-1, repeat. You can wipe everyones board of any creature without shroud or hexproof this way. If you have a requiem angel out when doing this you can infinite spirits because vish keeps dying and coming back.

I use Demonic Tutor , Idyllic Tutor , Shred Memory , Dimir Machinations and Fleshwrither to get my earthcraft/ashnods/academy rector(for earthcraft).

November 20, 2012 4:04 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #18

Knight-Captain of Eos doesn't seem to fit. Actually, for a deck that wants to focus on tokens, surprisingly little of your deck is dedicated to abusing Ghave's abilities. I expected to see a lot more support for Ghave (Psychotrope Thallid , Blade of the Bloodchief , Requiem Angel , etc.).

There are a few cards you should find room for:

card:Geralf's Messenger

Gilded Lotus

Chromatic Lantern

Thran Dynamo

Utopia Mycon

Decree of Pain

Worldly Tutor

Path to Exile

Seedborn Muse

Rhys the Redeemed

Also, I'm a bit confused about your budget. The description says you can't afford things like Survival of the Fittest , yet I see plenty of staples in this deck that are just as (if not more) expensive.

December 2, 2012 7:01 a.m.

rockleemyhero says... #19

@Epochalyptik thanks for your input. The only one I don't understand is Utopia Mycon when there are seemingly better cards like Phyrexian Altar and card:Ashnod's Altar. The spore counter affect seems too slow to me to be good but I've never tried. What are your experiences with the fungi?

Also, What specific cards besides Knight-Captain of Eos should I cut?? thats what I'm struggling with the most. the knight has been in there as a fog machine for politics sake in multiplayer. I've always been scared of OHKO's from buffed up The Mimeoplasm , skittles, rafiq. But I agree with you b/c there is a lack of soldier token production. I was thinking about adding in the outpost that creates soldiers and possibly even the darien king that makes more too.

And clarification about the budget. What I mean is that I'm not able to purchase those cards. Yes, I could aquire them in trades but since tappedout is my only resource of trading, I've given up hope on acquiring Survival of the Fittest and card:Gaea's Cradle lol. Any card over $20 here I've traded for or have just always had in my collection. Hope that clarifies things.

December 2, 2012 12:45 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #20

Utopia Mycon isn't good because of the spore counters, it's good because of its other ability. It can provide a good deal of ramp by allowing you to sacrifice all the tokens you've been producing with your excess mana on other turns.

Cards I would cut:

Knight-Captain of Eos

Master of the Wild Hunt

Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter

Stoneforge Mystic (possibly; it's only good for finding Skullclamp )

card:Umezawa's Jitte

Entreat the Angels

Mind Twist

You might consider Perilous Forays for ramp.

December 2, 2012 3:47 p.m.

rockleemyhero says... #21

thanks @Epochalyptik!

December 2, 2012 3:53 p.m.

miracleHat says... #22

nice deck, card:Green Sun's Zenith might be a nice include along with Decree of Justice and Chromatic Lantern .

December 4, 2012 9 p.m.

Kcin says... #23

still looking for Illusionist's Bracers to find a spot in this awesomeness of a token deck.....

August 5, 2013 11:57 p.m.

SeeOtter says... #24

Another infinite damage combo is Triskelion + Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

February 1, 2014 3:08 a.m.

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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

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Avg. CMC 3.74
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