+1/+1 shenanigans and big combos.

I don't every every potential way to win or do big combos listed. I listed some that have occurred or are intended to occur. With so many parts to make something big happen, it's only vital to have Ghave and Ashnod's Altar (or a Phyrexian Altar when I acquire another). The other parts have actual replacements within the deck.

Essentially if something can double tokens, double +1/+1 counters, or have counters placed on them for something entering/leaving the battlefield, we can do something with it. So it's important to know the pieces, there are too many potential things that can be listed together. So we have:
1. Ghave, Guru of Spores . He's the way we enable all of this stuff.
2. Ashnod's Altar is the next most important piece we have. Once I get a Phyrexian Altar for this deck, it can work in many similar situations but without gaining mana. An Utopia Mycon could also be helpful.
3. Parallel Lives and/or Corpsejack Menace or just Primal Vigor . These will double what we're doing and depending on other pieces, it can go infinite or just provide a lot of value. Additionally, Illusionist's Bracers on Ghave makes him have his own personal Doubling Season (which I aim to obtain someday).
4. Champion of Lambholt and Lumberknot can help generate +1/+1 counters on themselves with Ghave and Ashnods rather than having to rely on a token or counter doubler. They won't necessarily win a game but they can help or just grow to scary sizes. Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter can also grow pretty big and help boardwipe with enough combo pieces.
5. Geralf's Messenger and Woodfall Primus can both bring themselves back to do some nasty things. Geralf's Messenger can win the game and Woodfall Primus is a bit more complicated and easier with some doublers but can boardwipe everything but creatures.
These are things that can be used within the looping combos.

1. The easiest combo in this is Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Geralf's Messenger . You sacrifice Geralf's Messenger to Ashnod's Altar, get 2 mana, it comes back with a +1/+1 and then you spend one of your two mana on Ghave's ability to remove the +1/+1 on Geralf's. Infinite colorless mana, infinite tokens, and infinite damage.

2. Woodfall Primus with any of the combo pieces as long as we can sacrifice the Primus for mana and a token to put the +1/+1 on the Primus to negate Persist. With this combo you can clear the board of any noncreature permanent that doesn't have hexproof, indestructible, or protection from green. We don't necessarily need to be generating mana with this because we'll be the only ones left with a good amount of land.

3. Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter with the combo pieces that include a token doubling effect AND doubling counters placed. Make two tokens, sacrifice one to Ashnod's Altar , sacrifice the other to Vish Kal and he has a net gain of a +1/+1 counter since we're doubling the +1/+1 counters placed and removing one to generate two more tokens. This effectively clears the board of creatures without hexproof or protection from black/white. Also an infinitely large flying, lifelink creature comes out of it.

4. Lumberknot and Champion of Lambholt with Ghave and the Altar out can do a lot of work. We pull a counter off Ghave and make a saproling and sacrifice it for 2 mana. Either way the entering or leaving part would trigger Lumberknot or Champion of Lambholt and give them a +1/+1. We spend 1 of the 2 mana on Ghave's ability taking away the +1/+1 from either of those creatures. This creates infinite colorless mana. If we have a combo piece like a token or counter doubler, we get an infinitely large creature as well, infinite mana, and infinite saprolings.

Here is the current acquire list for this deck: Acquire List for Ghave EDH

Any help or suggestions is appreciated.


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90% Casual


Date added 8 months
Last updated 1 week
Exclude colors UR

This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 4.05
Tokens 0/1 Insect, 1/1 Elf, 1/1 Elf Warrior, 5/5 Wurm, 3/3 Beast, 1/1 Saproling
Folders EDH/Commander
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