I realize that Griselbrand is banned in EDH, but I made a big investment in him (even before the ban) and I would hate to put him out of play. However, I do take into consideration the people I play against, and therefore play Griselbrand with considerable discrepancy. In fact, I only play EDH in a casual setting among a good group of friends. In the spirit of EDH, I believe fun should come first rather than domination and power.
While this deck holds incredibly synergy between it and Ghave, the best thing about this deck is that each creature can hold its own without need of combo. However, when paired with any number of cards, powerful effects can be produced. It is easy to set up a lot of potential combos considering many of them happen with one card and Ghave himself who is, in my humble opinion, a very powerful and versatile Commander.
since you have Mikaeus, the Unhallowed in your deck, go for Feed the Pack and the 2 cards above and some fatties and you got a deadly deck. And if you need the counters, go for Contagion Engine to double poliferate
Feed the pack would be a great combo. I'll think about that one. Contagion Engine is really a must have and it's easy enough to pick up and when it's on the field, it doesn't need any other kind of combo piece to make it really deadly.
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Get Grave Pact man, it has amazing synergy with Ghave. Whenever you sac anything to ghave, each of your opponents also has to sacrifice a creature.
I love the Grave Pact idea! It'll go on my "must get" card list now.
I know it works well cause I had it used on me. It sucked. :P
Since you have Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed , you should have Loyal Cathar Flip for the ability to destroy all of your opponents' creatures and have an infinity/infinity Flying Lifelinker.
I like the idea of an infinite Gatling gun off of the combo, but Loyal Cathar's individual power level in a commander deck makes him a bit hard to use. Thanks for the idea. :)
If you only have one slot for it, card:Martyr's Bond is a better Grave Pact since it can force sacs of more than just creatures (your thopter tokens hit either creatures or artifacts). Juniper Order Ranger also works well with Ghave, as does Twilight Drover .
Blood Artist can also do a lot of damage with Ghave's ability to cycle guys on and off the field.
@gop2002: Thanks for the advice on the cards. Thanks especially for the Juniper Order Ranger idea since it is a great card for combo potential- with a +1/+1 counter on him, he turns into a saproling generator for however much mana you have. Crazy good.
Of course Doubling Season is the only card you'll ever need with Ghave, Guru of Spores ... but it's a pricey card... (but Parallel Lives isn't a bad start either, of course it doesn't interact as well)
card:Mirari's Wake is a very useful card in here.
All I can really add is get an Earthcraft it was one of the best additions I ever made to my Ghave deck. As mentioned above Juniper Order Ranger is a saproling generator for however much mana you have, well with Earthcraft you have infinite mana. Add in Skullclamp for infinite draw and then drop a Craterhoof Behemoth to do infinite/infinite trample damage to an opponent. Concordant Crossroads lets you use those infinite saprolings you just made as well to wipe out however many opponents you are playing against.
Thanks for the advice, guys. @deathbtgiraffe- I wish I could pick up a copy of Doubling Season, and Mirari's Wake since that would top off the deck really well.
@MrEveryNamesTaken- I like the synergy of Earthcraft too, since it would be really easy to overwhelm an opponent with that on the field.
I know. I play this deck casually among my friend group. I would feel bad taking it out since I spent good money on him before the ban announcement went out.
I would agree. If that hits the table, it's game over for everyone. The game wouldn't even be that much fun anymore for even the person that drops Omniscience.
i pulled that card out of a pack of cards. i would be mad if they took it away. my deck Sin Triplets (copy and paste on search) is the cards i have in the deck.
the fact is Griselbrand in this format gets you an unfair card advantage. Whereas Omniscience on its own does nothing. Omniscience is way of letting crazy stuff happen, provided that you have the crazy stuff set up alongside that enchantment. Griselbrand on the other hand is a way to ensure you won't run out of gas, finding your combo, or just stay on top of everyone else card-wise... I don't think Omniscience should be considered for banning at all... It really is a card that should built around, unlike Griselbrand (every black EDH deck welcomes that amount of card advantage).
@deathbygiraffe: Very true. When I do play Griselbrand, I take into consideration the others around me. I enjoy a well rounded game of EDH and don't like it when one person completely dominates the playing field. Personally, I spent $15 on Griselbrand before the announcement for his ban, and I don't want to put him on the sidelines. Rather, I don't play like a complete jerk when he's in play. I would NEVER play him as a general either.
pretty decent looking deck, but ghave works into so many broken combos with him, such as card:Cathars' Crusade and Earthcraft . this make infinite tokens and an infinite power/toughness ghave. i recent made a ghave deck that has alot of these combos that you can check out
The deck looks like it uses some great synergy. +1 from me.
Just wondering, are you were trying to turn this into a combo deck? If so I run a combo Ghave deck called Fungus Humungus that you might be interested in looking at. Also please +1 if you like it.
card:Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar could be really great in this deck. Here is why:
Also, Corpsejack Menace would be a lovely addition to this deck.
It's good in a vacuum, but as a versatile card and answer, it just isn't flexible enough.
Seems to me that Blade of the Bloodchief could be another +1/+1 counter doubler when attached to your general. Sac a creature and Ghave gets 2 counters instead of one. Or Ghave gets one and target another creature with the second. Doubling Season and Parallel Lives are much, much better, but it would add redundancy, which might be good in a deck with no tutors (e.g. Demonic Tutor ).
I use to recomend the following combos:
Phyrexian Altar or card:Ashnod's Altar + Mikaeus, the Unhallowed or any creature with undying + Ghave, Guru of Spores + Bitter Ordeal = Sacrifice your undying creatures or tokens the same amount as the number of cards in your opponents libraries. Then exile all cards in all opponents libraries.