- 2x Angel of Serenity
- 3x Avacyn's Pilgrim
- 2x Borderland Ranger
- 4x Fiend Hunter
- 3x Restoration Angel
- 2x Sigarda, Host of Herons
- 3x Thragtusk
- 4x Forest
- 3x Isolated Chapel
- 4x Plains
- 4x Sunpetal Grove
- 3x Swamp
- 2x Vault of the Archangel
- 2x Woodland Cemetery
I like the deck, It's quite similar to mine.I don't really like Cathedral of War just as stand alone exalted, but if it works, why not? +1
July 30, 2012 8:53 p.m.
July 31, 2012 2:31 a.m.
Awesome suggestions, guys! I'm still unsure how useful Cathedral of War will be IRL, but there's been a few occasions when play-testing here that I've been able to swing for 4 on turn two by going Turn 1 Forest into card:Avacyn's Pilgrim, then Turn 2 dropping a Cathedral of War and luckily having a Rancor to drop on the Pilgrim. And, the mana doesn't seem to suffer from having it in there. But, I've been wondering about putting in two Cavern of Souls for "Beasts", and seeing how that works as well.
I would like to get rid of Garruk, Primal Hunter since it's the only card that goes against my "only Innistrad, Dark Ascension, Avacyn Restored, and M13" rule in preparation for October.
July 31, 2012 6:39 a.m.
Scratch that. Looks like Garruk, Primal Hunter is actually in M13, so I'm good! lol I've been using the ones from M12, and totally forgot he was reprinted for M13. >.<
July 31, 2012 11:52 p.m.
August 1, 2012 1:56 a.m.
I think Garruk, Primal Hunter works better with card:Garruk's Packleader on the battlefield, allowing to gain a 3/3 Beast every turn and drawing a card from the Packleader's ability.
August 1, 2012 2:07 a.m.
Relentless is way better. I can see you like packleader, but you said you want this doing well in fnms so I'm going to have to tell you that its horrible. 5cmc is the top of the curve for pretty much all decks in standard. A 5cmc card needs to come into the field doing something awesome. The 3 cards that opitomize this are Zealous Conscripts Thragtusk and Wolfir Silverheart . All of these 5cmc creatures come into the game doing something game-changing(and are powerhouses in it of themselves). Packleader sits around and could maybe draw you a card if you were to already have garruk out the turn before. Why do you only have 2 of your main creature? I wouldn't go with primal huntbeast either. You need more restoration angels. Scorned Villager will flip maybe twice per fnm. Arbor Elf would be better. I would also up your rancor count to at least 3. Also I would think about Fiend Hunter . If your unaware of it, it plus cloudshift is an amazing combo. It permanently exiles one creature and does its ability again to exile another til its dead. I've never seen blessings of nature perform better than Increasing Savagery . I think I'm done vomitting out help now. Go check out my deck U/G Savaged Stalker please!
August 2, 2012 4:21 p.m.
I'm trying a similar deck. So far its performed decently in testing. I haven't been using the card:Conjurer's Closet though, has it been pivotal in getting it to work? I do have 4 Restoration Angel , so maybe that reduces the dependance. Get as many as you can, they make this deck run.
Consider Borderland Ranger while it isnt a huge card on its own, pulling the land from your deck to improve your draws is never a bad thing. I would definitely include Oblivion Ring as they are game-winning. I'm still torn between the need for two or three at this stage.
While it's a bit on the high-drop side, Acidic Slime is very useful if you score an early ramp into it. I've had turn 3 slime, EOT 4 Angel, then Cloudshift targeting lands. It's devastating, especially to delver, since it tends to run a lower land count at 18 or so. A couple of unlucky draws with no mana and its game. It's also good to have for killing off enemy Oblivion Ring , Birthing Pod and card:Runechanter's Pike
I'm looking at adding Fiend Hunter as well, looks very promising. I'm still weighing the kill potential of Champion of Lambholt . A couple of blinks turn your board into a monster that can sweep past for the win, but I'm not sure if what I'd take out would be worth the addtion at this stage. Give it a go!
Last suggestion is look at using Rancor instead of Prey Upon . I've been running 3, and they allow big beats from walking over, or Angels flying through for 5. Since they return to your hand, blinking doesnt diminish their use at all!
Hope I helped a bit, let me know how it goes!
August 12, 2012 10:30 a.m.
Thanks for the suggestions, ChiuChiuSan!
I've been away from the site for about three weeks, but I've been able to play-test a lot more. I've made some decent changes, but I'll definitely be trying some of your suggestions as well. And, I'll update the deck with my current changes in the next couple days.
However, I am really considering splashing black into the deck. With more spoilers coming out with RTR, it's looking like GB is going to be really strong. I'm not too sure about adding Rise from the Grave , but it might be a good idea if I can get some better ramp. I definitely want to add Borderland Ranger as you suggest to fix my mana, or something that will help put land into the battlefield quicker.
But, what I'm really excited about using in black would be Undying Evil ! Can you imagine using it on Thragtusk when an opponent tries destroying it, and profiting a 3/3 Beast token and 5 life, and getting my 5/3 creature back with a +1/+1 counter? I'll also have the option to Cloudshift him again, removing the counters, and allowing me to do the whole thing over again! That's 10 life and TWO 3/3 beasts for only two mana! And, if I have a card:Garruk's Packleader on the filed, I'll also be drawing FOUR cards!
The best thing about this deck is being able to use the Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift trickery by exiling two creatures if I Cloudshift my Fiend Hunter immediately after casting him. You can also do this at the end of your turn using Cloudshift after card:Conjurer's Closet's ability on your Fiend Hunter .
I'm also considering Unburial Rites since having black, but I'm unsure if I'll even have the room for it. But, yeah, these are just a few of my ideas since I've been gone.
September 6, 2012 3:47 a.m.
ChiuChiuSan, I forgot to mention that although card:Conjurer's Closet did work at times, it was too clunky to use. Bumping up my Restoration Angel s, as you suggested, works far better. I'm not running 3x Restoration Angel , 4x Cloudshift , and 3x Undying Evil , which I seem to be hitting just as I need them.
September 8, 2012 5:39 p.m.
This is similar to a deck I've been thinking about putting together! I pulled two Thragtusk s at a draft, after buying an AR pack with a Cloudshift in it and figured it was a sign or something haha. But +1 from me, looks pretty killer!! I may borrow an idea or two ;)
September 10, 2012 6:39 a.m.
Feel free to use some ideas! A few Reddit users suggested I use Strangleroot Geist because I have no two-drops. But, who knows. I still have a couple ideas here, but I want to test out how it works as it is now, first.
September 10, 2012 9:27 a.m.
Honestly, I don't have any 2 drop creatures in my G/W either. I'd much rather drop a mana dork and drop a decent 3 drop Turn two instead. Like Temple Garden to Arbor Elf , next turn into Borderland Ranger , Loxodon Smiter , or any other decent 3 drop. Possibly even Ajani, Caller of the Pride .
September 10, 2012 9:41 a.m.
That's true. But, I'm finding myself pretty helpless until about turn 5, and there's some decks out there that will take you out at turn 4-5. lol It's just something to think about I guess. Putting a Deadly Allure on a Strangleroot Geist would be pretty sweet though.
September 10, 2012 9:53 a.m.
September 10, 2012 10:02 a.m.
I'll definitely be changing that once RtR comes out. As it stands, I think I'm pretty good with card:Avacyn's Pilgrim. If anything, I might switch out a swamp for a forest, but I haven't been struggling with land much, if at all.
September 12, 2012 1:51 a.m.
I would cut your 3x Duress for more creatures and another Garruk Primal Hunter. I personally feel theres not enough creatures in your deck and your trying to do too much with undying evil and cloudshift. I would cut undying evil for more creatures, maybe Centaur Healer ?