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Elves and the Infinite Elephant

Standard Combo Competitive Elves G/U (Simic)

abby315


Description

Do you want to win by Fireballing your opponent with an infinite/infinite Walking Ballista through a convoluted 5 (at least) card combo??

Or just beat down with approximately 13 power on board t4?

How about playing with pseudo Glimpse of Nature chains?

This is the weird deck for YOU! It is capable of assembling an infinite mill or infinite damage combo, or just going full elfball roll down. Every game is super live and interesting (except Saheeli combo).

A hybrid of UG Paradox Engine and Standard Mono Green Elves! Thanks for the inspiration guys! Going to be tweaking :)

BASE PIECES: Greenbelt Rampager + energy sink (Minister or Servant) + mana producing creature + Paradox Engine = infinite bounces and uses of energy (NOT infinite energy).

Infinite Mill: Minister of Inquiries = infinite mill (play Greenbelt, it bounces to hand and untaps your permanents, pay for greenbelt with manadork, response use the energy to mill, it untaps your permanents, it bounces to hand and repeat)

Infinite Mana: Servant of the Conduit = infinite mana (play Greenbelt, Paradox Engine trigger, it bounces to hand. Tap mana dork for mana, replay using Servant of the Conduit, Paradox Engine trigger, it bounces to hand, repeat).

This can also be achieved with Minister of Inquiries + 2 mana dorks, but then you are already infinitely milling, so...

infinite mana + Lifecrafter's Bestiary = draw deck

infinite mana + Walking Ballista = infinite p/t and insta-kill

Sideboard can go full combo with Negate and Heroic Intervention protection or full elf-aggro with Heroic Intervention protection.

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MCali07 says... #1

I think when Greenbelt Rampager comes into play you have to pay the 2E to keep it on the battlefield. Its not a "may" cost.

January 31, 2017 6:11 p.m.

abby315 says... #2

MCali07 that's true! That's why you need an energy sink in Minister of Inquiries or Servant of the conduit, so that you can use the one energy produced by the Elephant as mana or mill--so you never have two mana, you have infinite triggers of one mana use. You can start the combo at 0 or 1 energy and then have infinite triggers of mill, etc as listed above!

January 31, 2017 6:32 p.m.

shadow63 says... #3

I'd cut a rishkar or two as she's a legendary

February 3, 2017 4 p.m.

abby315 says... #4

shadow63: Thanks for the comment! I originally had 2 Cryptolith Rite and 3 Rishkar, Peema Renegade; however, in testing, I found that I wanted as many creatures as possible in order to keep Lifecrafter's Bestiary chains going (e.g. drawing more creatures off of the extra draw, to keep drawing and dropping threats). I also found that if I was going off, digging for the Elephant, I didn't mind sacrificing a Rishkar to the legend rule.

The only real danger is having two in an opening or early hand. If that really messes up my mulligans in testing I'll consider going back.

February 3, 2017 8:58 p.m.

Why not make if Mono-Green? It would cut out some cost in your lands, and you only have a single blue mainboard card and 5 of them in your sideboard.

Also, I'd recommend taking out Servant of the Conduit. The only other energy card is Greenbelt Rampager, and for your purposes, he plays better if he gets bounced back to your hand. In other words, you don't have and don't want energy to fuel your servant. I'd straight up replace it with two more of the rampagers and maybe a Walking Ballista or a Paradox Engine.

Another card I'd consider would be Rishkar's Expertise. Yes, it's a 6-drop, but with your Rishkar, Peema Renegade or Cryptolith Rite on the battlefield you should have no trouble getting that mana, and its secondary ability lets you cast literally any other spell except for your ballista.

February 7, 2017 10:54 a.m.

Love love, LOVE this deck Abby. Have you considered beast master savant or paradoxical outcome? I have tweaked your list slightly and seen great success in mtgo. My changes:-4sylvan advocate +4 beast master savant -2 lifecrafter's bestiary +2 paradoxical outcome -4 spire of industry -1 inventor's fair -1 forest +4 aether hub +1 spontaneous artist +1 greenbelt rampager -1 metallic mimic +1 armorcraft judge. My side is a little different but mostly for budget reasons.The paradoxical outcome really enables a lot of draw and you can return armorcraft judges to play again! I found the 4 mana to paradoxical outcome to be no big deal when you are comboing. Anywhere I go with this I'll be sure to credit your ideas.Anyways love your work keep on brewing!

February 7, 2017 12:57 p.m.

abby315 says... #7

patricklvanduyse Thanks for commenting! So the inclusion of blue, for Minister of Inquiries, as well as Servant of the Conduit is just to power the infinite combos with Greenbelt Rampager listed in the accordion. Happily the blue fast lands are SUPER cheap, and Spire of Industry isn't very expensive either--and I think could be swapped for Aether Hub with little difference. The version you suggest is essentially the mono-green elves list that inspired this one by Rick0chet! You should check it out-- it's in the description!

The reason I splash blue and add the combo pieces is to give this long grindy deck some inevitability and diversity, rather than just being a creature aggro deck. I also find that it synergizes with the elfball strategy really well, because just going off on little Glimpse of Nature chains to fill the board with elves is fantastic--running into an infinite combo along the way just seals the deal.

I would be interested to test 1-2 Rishkar's Expertise because it can draw a ton of cards, but /probably/ if I need that effect a third Armorcraft Judge would fit the bill. This deck really wants as many creatures as possible so you can keep Lifecrafter's Bestiary going. But I'm going to keep that suggestion in mind for sure.


Hotsaucewilliams: Thanks so much for the comment! I'm really glad you're liking the deck too! I'm very interested in how Paradoxical Outcome works, especially in place of Lifecrafter's Bestiary. I can see how it powers combo turns more effectively, but I imagine it's at the cost of the early game help Lifecrafter's Bestiary can provide. I also like its secondary use as a boardwipe dodge; I'm thinking I'll test it in the sideboard for siding into full combo.

Beastcaller Savant (or Druid of the Cowl) in place of Sylvan Advocate is something I'm going back and forth on. Having the extra set of manadorks enables a combo turn more consistently without Rishkar, Peema Renegade nor Cryptolith Rite, but Sylvan Advocate allows the deck to have a brutal early game against slow decks with all the counters and I like having that diversity.

Do you run into issues with Aether Hub for the manabase? I'd be interested in that because 1) it's cheaper and 2) it's a (brief) energy outlet for Rampager if necessary, but the deck doesn't consistently generate energy so I'd be worried about it running out for the later turns when I need the blue splash.

/Please/ let me know how testing is going & what cards you're feeling really over/underperform! I'm still a couple cards shy of building this IRL so I haven't gotten to play against a lot of decks.

February 7, 2017 4:38 p.m.

Tjau1985 says... #8

Quicksmith Spy would help with card draw as you can enchant the Paradox Engine, tap it to draw and then use your creatures to cast again, untap it and then repeat.

May the mana flow like the blood of your opponents.

February 10, 2017 6:37 p.m.

abby315 says... #9

Thanks for the comment Tjau1985! I'm a HUGE fan of Quicksmith Spy, so I'm definitely going to see if she can come in, but being a non-elf for 4 mana makes her kinda off-curve for the creature aggro aspect of the deck. I do love the way she could make combo turns more consistent though, and being a creature is great.

And also with you? :P

February 10, 2017 11:35 p.m.

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This deck is Standard legal.

Cards 60
Avg. CMC 2.38
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+2 Walking Ballista main
+1 Quicksmith Spy main
-4 Sylvan Advocate main
+1 Cryptolith Rite main