EDH Ishkanah, Queen of Spiddies!

Commander / EDH Bou

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<3 Ishy —Oct. 14, 2016

Ah Ishkanah, it's so hard to improve this deck..

I've added Coat of Arms, and removed one of the less useful spiders. Contemplating adding Sudden Spoiling or Overrun / Overwhelming Stampede effects. Might add the new Panharmonicon for more copy shenanigans. I've already removed Bow of Nylea for Doubling Cube.

I'm also thinking about making it prettier.. do I try to foil everything, or should I get everything in Japanese? I can read most Japanese, plus it looks cool... and most cards aren't available as a foil.

Takadori says... #1

Now Now, you do realise that Illusionist's Bracers states, "If it isn't a mana ability", so Ishkanah's lose life ability wont be cloned, I suggest removing it and replacing it with something in your maybeboard. I would say Konda's Banner

August 9, 2016 7:02 a.m.

Bou says... #2

A 'mana ability' produces mana. Ishkanah, Grafwidow's ability is an 'activated ability'. Therefore, the bracers will work.

602. Activating Activated Abilities Show

605. Mana Abilities Show

August 9, 2016 8:03 a.m. Edited.

onewhosees says... #3

Why no Deadly Recluse?

August 10, 2016 9:36 p.m.

Nerdsage says... #4

Big butts? A good ol' Assault Formation wouldn't hurt

August 11, 2016 12:39 a.m.

Quicksilver says... #5

August 12, 2016 6:18 a.m.

Bou says... #6

@onewhosees: I took Deadly Recluse out because, well.. something had to go and.. I didn't like the artwork :X He's still pretty functional though!

@Nerdsage & HOPMONSTER: I'm still conflicted about Assault Formation, but I've decided to take the plunge and give it a try. I've replaced Goliath Spider (7/6) with Juvenile Gloomwidow (1/3) to hopefully benefit more from the lower CMC (8 -> 2) and the bigger bonus from a possible assault formation (-1 -> +2).

@Quicksilver: ehh You're right. Not only is it better because it has more diversity, it has a bit more flavor too as heroes are always killing spiders >:(.

Thanks for the feedback and the upvotes :)

August 12, 2016 9:04 a.m.

Catgroove says... #7

I know this is eight legged overlord tribal, but if you are open to the idea of playing a non spider (heresy I know), then Grim Flayer seems like it would be ideal for this deck. His ability, in my mind, is a delirium version of Sensei's Divining Top. It would smooth out draws, act as another outlet to selectively set up delirium, and would be a decent bottom curve creature that stays somewhat relevant as you go into the midgame. Also Top would be a good include to help with the selective milling/drawing. I know it's a very diversifying card with some hating it and some loving it, but I just like it in most EDH decks.

August 12, 2016 7:35 p.m.

Bou says... #8

Couldn't agree more, and I actually got a Grim Flayer promo at the prerelease, built my best prerelease set so far around him.. but this is indeed strictly spiders.

I had considered Top previously.. not sure why I forgot about it, guess I got distracted by all the other goodies. :)

August 13, 2016 1:59 a.m.

Kokorimon says... #9

Have you thought about adding in the green Leylines? Leyline of Vitality gives your bulky spiders more bulk and gives you life when they enter. Leyline of Lifeforce makes it so then you spiders can be shot out of existence before they appear.

August 20, 2016 12:38 p.m.

Kokorimon says... #10

I'd like to amend the last sentence of the last comment. Was typing faster than thinking:Leyline of Lifeforce makes it so then your spiders can not be shot out of existence before they appear.

August 20, 2016 12:43 p.m.

Bou says... #11

Ah Thanks! I'll give them some thought :) Haven't played against a lot of counters yet but might be useful to have around.

August 20, 2016 10:32 p.m.

Valoth says... #12

I've been struggling to complete my Ishkanah, Grafwidow edh for a while now, but this has given me ideas to complete it!

August 25, 2016 4:33 p.m.

Bou says... #13

Thanks! thats good to hear! be sure to check the other spider decks for more ideas though :D

August 26, 2016 9:33 a.m.

Kroxloq says... #14

Wow this deck is excellent, great work all around!

1 question though: Wouldn't equipping Ishkanah with Blade of Selves invoke the legend rule, thus killing her? If I understand correctly...she would enter play, you'd still get the tokens from the Myriad effect, but then once that resolves she would legend away? Please educate me if I am incorrect, I run the Blade of Selves in my Ishkanah deck and would LOVE for her survive the legend/myriad problem.

As it is, you can still equip the Blade of Selves to any ol' spider, get the tokens during combat, and activate her ability for extra damage.

Again, great work! =)

September 9, 2016 6:56 p.m.

Valoth says... #15

The legend rule wouldn't kill Ishkanah, Grafwidow because you're allowed to pick which oneof the legendary permanents you wish to remain. Though I believe that since the copies would have to enter the battlefield before a selection could be made to sacrifice that her token ability would transfer on each of the myriad clones.

"If you play a second, or one comes into play under your control for another reason (such as an Oblivion Ring leaving play), you will choose which one you wish to retain. "Taken from magic the gathering official website

September 10, 2016 12:01 a.m.

Bou says... #16

Thanks :)

Regarding your question, as Valoth already noted, you get to pick which legendary stays. So on attack, Myriad will trigger, Ish tokens enter the battlefield and trigger for spider tokens, then the legend rule kicks in and you'll have to remove the Ishkanah clones. Sadly, the Legend rule checks state-based and doesn't work with the stack, so you can't activate Ish's ability to include all the extra Ishkanahs, but meh, you get a ton of spiders anyway.

And, most importantly, Ishy survives :3

September 10, 2016 7:54 a.m. Edited.

Kroxloq says... #17

Wow excellent! Thanks for the help/clarification guys! Huzzah spiders!

September 10, 2016 2:51 p.m.

Conjurer's Closet? To get a trigger every turn. But you may not have enough etb effects on other creatures to warrant it. Really neat deck tho.

October 4, 2016 2:25 p.m.

I totally missed that you had the closit. My bad.

October 4, 2016 2:33 p.m.

Bou says... #20

Heh, no problem! There are so many goodies here even I forget what's in there from time to time ;).

October 12, 2016 7:48 a.m.