So, I've kinda figured something out about myself. I like decks that break the format of EDH. Now, I don't mean decks that are so overpowered that they change the way people play, or people feel cheated, etc. I'm talking about cards and combos that would normally not be considered in EDH. For instance. I run a Shadowborn Apostle deck. This breaks the singleton nature of the game. I also have the number one Phage the Untouchable deck on TappedOut. By the very nature of that card, it should be bad in EDH because you can't cast it from your command zone without exceptions.

But this...

This is probably my greatest rendition yet of breaking the format. I am so proud to present to you...

Battle of Wits!!!

Now before I go on about how awesome this is... I got something else to say really quickly. This is NOT a competitive deck. I've been playtesting this on Cockatrice, and I've been getting stuff like "You're not gonna win consistently with that!" That isn't the intention of this deck (although it's surprisingly consistent for what it wants to do). My intention is to sometimes (even if rarely) win in a fashion that almost no one sees coming. However, I don't want to ruin the reputation of the Cockatrice community. I have also gotten a lot of "good luck with that, I hope you get it to work." "and that's neat, let me know when you finally pull it off" and just general niceness from other players. And the four times (probably out of somewhere between 25-30 games) that I've won, I've gotten nothing but "well that's just impressive" statements and things of the like. Now that I'm done with that schpeal, onto the deck!

The one card that is going to make this strategy possible is the Research side of Research/Development. This allows me to take cards from outside the game and shuffle those cards into my library. Thus adding to the number of overall cards in the deck. Now considering the only real way to win with this strategy is to cast Research/Development a very large number of times, we'll need ways to recur this spell, copy this spell, and the like an infinite number of times. Normally people don't like infinite combos. But they never see this one coming and they appreciate the way you won so much, they don't really care. There is no salt spilled on the table.

Here's a sidenote though. What you can grab with Research/Development is determined by your playgroup (when in EDH). Some say you can grab anything. Some say only from your sideboard. My playgroup decided on you can grab anything as long as it's within your commander's color identity. And you still can't break the singleton nature of the format. From playing this so far this method seems like a fair way to play. Not overpowered, but still pretty dang powerful.

Well, I originally was gonna go 5 colors. Use tutors and all that kind of stuff to get to my combo, but then I decided that the mana base for that was going to be too extensive for it to run at any kind of smooth pace. However, I needed Temur colors to be able to play Research/Development because the Development side of it IS taken into account when determining color identity. You can't just pretend it's not there. And while Riku of Two Reflections may not be used very much himself, he does fit the overall theme of the deck of copying spells. So flavor for the win.
The gameplan is pretty simple. First, we get out Battle of Wits. Then we'll get some raised eyebrows. Maybe even a chuckle or two. This won't usually need protection. (Until the second game.) But when it does need protection you're going to find it in the way of counterspells. I've tried to keep them at a lower casting cost. So that's fun.

If we get lucky we'll have Battle of Wits in our opening hand, or near the top of the deck. If we're not lucky no worries. Sit back, set up a board. Then we'll need to crank up an infinite draw engine to find it. I'll show you what those are later.

Our next step will be to set up one of our infinite mana combos. I will list these later.
The next step will be to set up one of our infinite spell copying combos. I will also consolidate these in a later part of the description.
This is the last phase to our gameplan. This is the bread and butter right here. We cast Research/Development then we copy it any number of times until our library has well over 200 cards. Then on our next upkeep? BOOM we win the game! The best time to do this is at the endstep of the player that goes before you. That way you don't have to wait for the entire table to go around one more time and possibly have Battle of Wits removed.
Outside of our infinite combo cards and our win-con. I would classify the rest (excluding mana) as support or removal.
I classify support as anything that helps the deck run more smoothly and/or conisistently.

First we have the tutors.

Then we have our shapeshifters. These can replace combo pieces or they can copy something useful of the opponents.

Then we have miscellaneous support.

There are two types of removal in this deck: Classic spot-removal and counterspells. The best part is that all are targetable by Elite Arcanist and some of them are targetable by Isochron Scepter.


Then Counterspells

  • The "wish" cycle. ( Cunning Wish , etc.) The ones that are in my colors only grab very specific things, and only one of them. So that's why none of those.

  • Spawnsire of Ulamog- It's a little too specific for me. Just Eldrazis. Then you have to find a way to get them back into your library? It's just too much of a hassle.

  • Thakns to anyone who read this far. You're the bomb. If you like the deck or the deck's win-con idea give it a +1! Any comments, concerns, suggestions are more than welcome.




    chaosumbreon87 says... #1

    I love the deck but can I ask for honest thoughts about reshape/transmute artifact here? Reshape seems like a valid way of getting to the infinite mana point. I assume in the games you tested, people were fine with you siding in like 300 lands or something (still needs to match riku's type). I also love the fact that this is one of the only decks on this site that can run Cyclonic rift, but doesnt.

    November 30, 2016 5:41 p.m.

    What do you mean by the reshape/transmute artifact? Like is this a mechanic? A specific card? I'm confused. Yes. Online I just ran a crapload of lands in the sideboard. However in person I could just go to my collection.

    November 30, 2016 5:47 p.m.

    chaosumbreon87 says... #3

    oh sorry Transmute Artifact and Reshape. Both have similar effects, its just price difference. And the only reason I mentioned sideboard is that I remember the EDH sideboard consensus is 10 card sideboard unless the table agrees. I guess it doesnt matter since Cockatrice seems to allow it.

    November 30, 2016 5:52 p.m.

    Oh. This is just casual EDH play. Usually no sideboard. So this thing won't work in a tournament. Those are nice. I'll take a look into those thank you!

    November 30, 2016 5:56 p.m.

    Nice deck! You may enjoy one I am working on, The Cheese's Banned Alone, it also tries to win in the dumbest possible way.

    December 1, 2016 8:49 a.m.

    Eiti3 says... #6

    I see you notably excluded Cunning Wish. My only argument against that when you run into the meta (like I have) where when your opponents counterspell your Research/Development and part of the counterspell is to exile it, then you need some way to get it back from exile. The same goes for losing Isochron Scepter and Elite Arcanist. But that's just my opinion on it.

    If not run it, you could put in it in your casual "sideboard" so you at least have it in your deck the first time you Research/Development.

    February 1, 2017 4:51 p.m.

    Even if the Research/Development is countered, while the counter is on the stack I can still just copy it over and over again. Then they would have to counter the copies.

    February 1, 2017 5:43 p.m.

    Emzed says... #8

    Eternal Witness is sad because you forgot about her.
    What a crazy idea of a deck. This is so way out there, it just has to be upvoted ;)

    February 1, 2017 5:55 p.m.

    You're missing out not playing Djinn Illuminatus. Never stop brewing ridiculous amazing decks.

    February 8, 2017 2:32 p.m.

    Djinn Illuminatus is beautiful. I'll see what I could take out for it.

    February 9, 2017 4:06 p.m.

    Grind says... #11

    awesome wincon.
    fyi have you considered Paradox Engine in your Isochron Scepter + Sol Ring combo to cast all your Research/Development cards?
    it also goes well with azami, arcanis, etc.
    you might consider it over your Ashnod's Altar/Nim Deathmantle/Wurmcoil Engine combo because those 3 cards don't seem to do much unless you get all 3 of them together.

    February 15, 2017 4:20 p.m.

    K00lDudE1 says... #12

    This is beautiful lol

    If I could use it at tourneys, I would so buy it

    February 21, 2017 1:59 p.m.

    TheRedGoat says... #13

    For anyone who feels exile is a problem I direct your attention to Riftsweeper.

    Also would Biovisionary probably deserve it's own deck built around it?

    March 3, 2017 11:34 a.m.

    Seems fine. You don't need to use riku for this since blue has lots of clone spells and Rite of Replication is a thing. I'd prefer a color identity of UBG for this though since black has more tutor power

    March 3, 2017 11:45 a.m.

    chaosumbreon87: I need Temur colors because Research/Development is Temur. I didn't want to go 4 or 5 color with this.

    March 4, 2017 1:26 a.m.

    Deathstroke2791 I was saying sultai for biovisionary wins as it would bring the most success for that win con. I am aware of r&d's temur plan for battle of wits. I was just addressing redgoat's comment

    March 4, 2017 1:59 a.m.

    OHHHHHH ok. I got you. I was like "I addressed why I'm not playing black in the description." But things are much more clear now.

    March 4, 2017 12:17 p.m.

    HorseFist says... #18

    Edh = 100 cards =no upvote from me

    March 21, 2017 1:16 a.m.

    HorseFist says... #19

    To me, it's like somebody saying "it's technically still sushi even though there's no seafood in it".... I work at a fish counter/seafood counter so this violate some of my perceptions: )

    March 21, 2017 1:19 a.m.

    Meh. I understand why some people don't like it. But sometimes you just need a jank deck that can make someone laugh, or is just super creative.

    March 21, 2017 1:45 a.m.

    HorseFist says... #21

    I get that, but if it actually had 200 total cards in it then you could call it a "casual" or something instead (you must know this already?), title of deck may put some folks off a bit ; )

    March 21, 2017 2:21 a.m.

    "This is NOT a competitive deck" -taken straight from description

    by definition this statement means that its for casual/mid tier/friendly environments.

    Sorry if this sounds snarky or conceited. Ive been studying for 2 days straight for a test [college life ;;-;;] and i'm running on pure caffeine. So my comments may sound more aggressive. Please dont take it the wrong way.

    March 21, 2017 8:26 a.m.

    The title of the deck served it's purpose. It was to get people's attention. The whole point is to throw people off. You checked it out did you not? Did it not arouse your suspicion when you saw an EDH deck claiming to have 200 cards? That was the point, and it did it wonderfully. It doesn't get 200 total cards in it until the end of the game. And it refers to the wincon. Not the deck itself. :)

    March 21, 2017 5:43 p.m.

    HorseFist says... #24

    Gotta admit title made me look, but If I cared deeply about every single thing I glance at on the Internet my head/heart would have exploded long ago : )

    March 21, 2017 8:37 p.m.

    pshawver says... #25

    fantastic deck i love it!

    can you elaborate why you dont play the wishes? in particular Living Wish. my issue would be the sorcery speed nature of it (limiting you to comboing on your own turn) but being able to grab creatures means you could grab an eldrazi with a graveyard shuffle and discard those 200 cards at EOT and have them shuffled in.

    Also have you considered trying to fit Paradox Engine in somewhere?

    May 13, 2017 3:14 a.m.

    LeoSushi says... #26

    Isochron Scepter and Izzet Guildmage no longer work due to the rules change about the converted mana cost of split cards

    June 23, 2017 7:06 p.m.

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