any ideas that coud help me....speed the process up?



danielcraig says... #2

tho i have seen others with similar tactics,mostly relying on mill.i how ever am using discard basically for spot removal of....your main method of prevailing and anything that could prevent my creatures from taking the win for me

June 4, 2017 3:52 p.m.

MillPro9000 says... #4

How about Mind Funeral? A couple of copies will guarntee that there is good stuff to hit with the Extirpate and Surgical Extraction.

June 9, 2017 12:21 p.m.

danielcraig says... #5

both ideas could work but im trying to stay away from mill

June 10, 2017 12:58 p.m.

DA_BEARS says... #7

danielcraig Just commenting to say that I get your username reference and its awesome!

June 12, 2017 1 a.m.

danielcraig says... #8

lol i understand what you think the reference is because i get that alot but its actualy my real name

June 12, 2017 8:43 a.m.

akuma104 says... #9

June 12, 2017 2:52 p.m.

danielcraig says... #10

ah.yes.i had forgotten that one.should fit in there somewhere nicely

June 12, 2017 2:59 p.m.

danielcraig says... #11

maybe Quash?

June 12, 2017 3:26 p.m.

danielcraig says... #12

akuma104 its a shame that it is not modern

June 12, 2017 3:59 p.m.

akuma104 says... #13

my bad

June 12, 2017 4:29 p.m.

How about a name that's not quite so offensive? I love the deck, but can't see past the name.

June 16, 2017 1:49 p.m.

danielcraig says... #15

ah,yes.i could see how the name may be slightly derogatory.however,it has been named as such due to the fact is a rather good explanation of this decks mechanics. and unfortunately i'm not much concerned with any one persons feelings towards my titling,nor do i take giving a deck a name seriously

June 16, 2017 2:22 p.m.

Fair enough.

I do appreciate the versatility of Nightveil Spectre and wish you were running more, but unless it does mill something really juicy right away it's not doing enough for your plan A.

Seems pretty good though.

June 16, 2017 2:55 p.m.

danielcraig says... #17

much appreciated

June 16, 2017 3:42 p.m.

I used to play Persecute on turn two against my friend's mono-colored burn deck with a little help from Dark Ritual. If you want to speed things up, Dark Ritual is a good start.

In addition to the always awesome Hymn to Tourach, Thoughtseize is pretty effective, and Painful Quandary is an interesting discard engine.

My all-time favorite is Mind Twist and its little brother Mind Shatter isn't too shabby.

June 19, 2017 1:47 a.m.

Crap, I forgot how strict modern is: I mostly play Commander, but I used to play quite a bit of legacy, too.

June 19, 2017 1:50 a.m.

Half the cards I mentioned are viable in Modern. lol

June 19, 2017 1:53 a.m.

casmiel says... #22

The idea is OK, but it has some problems I'll come back to later. Some basics though: You have no way to deal with creatures that are already on the battlefield. You'll just get overrun without cards like Fatal Push. Against Combo decks your deck works great, you hit a combo piece out of their hand, exile the rest and then have all the time in the world to close out the game. Against pretty much any kind of Aggro deck, you just get overwhelmed. Control decks also often just don't care. Gonti, Lord of Luxury is way better than Nightveil Spectre, as you can use your own colors to cast whatever you chose to exile. Deathtouch is also at least some way to remove opposing creatures, pretty much killing 2 birds with 1 stone. I don't think Blue is the way to go here though, unless you transform the deck completely to a Mill deck or something like that.

Now here is the problem with your idea: Cards like Surgical Extraction go from extremely powerful against Combo decks like Ad Nauseam or Storm, to utterly useless against almost any kind of Aggro deck. Exiled 2 of my threads? Well, I'll just play some of the other 10 then, no problem. If you enjoy looking at your opponent's hand and just ripping their strategy to shreds, you are better of playing good old 8-rack:

In 8-rack, Extirpate and Surgical Extraction are fantastic sideboard cards. You only bring them to the match after game 1, where you can quickly see if it makes sense to board them in or if they are useless instead. Here is a budget version of said deck: It's a bit old, but still viable and can be quickly modernized.

June 19, 2017 3:39 a.m.

Argy says... #23

I find the name offensive, too.

People who haven't been raped don't understand how using the word in a light-hearted fashion makes it twice as bad.

Surely it's not that difficult for an intelligent person to find a better word to use.

June 19, 2017 9:37 a.m.

danielcraig says... #24

as i said not worried about anyone persons feelings towards my titiling.i dont even name decks because i find it silly i did it just for this sight and do not care what you think about it...and as far as getting rid of whats on the field,i do have void snair. my extripate and surgical extractio are only for getting rid of removal spells and pesky creatures that would come mid also over look the discard....hard to play all your spells without a hand....and lastly if u dont have an answer for a turn 3 or 4 demon then good luck and that is what my turn 1 and 2 are dedicated to Angry casmiel

June 19, 2017 11:02 a.m.

I have a mental illness, and people use words like "schizo" "crazy" "psycho" and "bipolar" in a humorous context without any regard for how it makes me feel, and society tells me that I should just be okay with it. In other words, I think it's better to be broadly insensitive than it is to perpetuate hypocritical double standards. In the end, it simply shows how people value one type of victim over another, not that I have a "victim mentality," and that's just another form of discrimination. They're just words, so grow a thick skin and worry about something that matters. If anything, the title got your attention, and now you're checking out his deck, so it's a win-win for him. Maybe I should put offensive words in my titles so I could actually get feedback every now and then.

June 19, 2017 5:23 p.m.

danielcraig says... #26

theindigoeffect well said

June 19, 2017 5:30 p.m.

D-World says... #31

Though it's costly, a resolved Head Games lets you scout for the most dangerous threats whilst filling your opponents' hand with dead cards and/or lands.

June 22, 2017 3:04 p.m.

danielcraig says... #32

D-World thats a very interesting supprised iv never ran across it

June 22, 2017 3:15 p.m.

D-World says... #33

danielcraig if I remember it was played during the Time Spiral/Lorwyn standard era where it really screwed over some players. I feel like it fits right in your theme but it might be too expensive for modern (and by the time you cast this they probably only have about three cards in their hand anyway).

June 22, 2017 4:01 p.m.

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