- 4x Bitter Ordeal
- 2x Gaea's Blessing
- 4x Living Wish
- 4x Personal Tutor
- 3x Steelshaper's Gift
- 4x Sylvan Tutor
- 1x Ancient Tomb
- 1x Aven Mindcensor
- 1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
- 1x Cephalid Illusionist
- 1x Daru Spiritualist
- 1x Ethersworn Canonist
- 1x Gemstone Mine
- 1x Kami of Ancient Law
- 1x Nomads en-Kor
- 1x Starlit Sanctum
- 1x Tarmogoyf
- 1x The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
- 1x Trygon Predator
- 1x Viridian Shaman
- 1x Yixlid Jailer
so, just for clarification, you can target somebody with the nomads even if the nomads aren't being dealt damage?
September 6, 2010 11:50 p.m.
The oracle text for Nomads is:
"The next 1 damage that would be dealt to Nomads en-Kor this turn is dealt to target creature you control instead."
So yes, you can do that. A ton of people don't realize its a threat until its already stuck, and at that point their dead (if they try to path it, you can just redirect damage in response.) because of the wording on the card. Unfortunate, but their is nothing I can do about it.
September 7, 2010 5:47 p.m.
The idea for this deck is pure genius but correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think the Bitter Ordeal combo works.
Gravestorm is worded as thus, "When you cast this spell, copy it for each permanent put into a graveyard this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies."
I believe for a card to be considered a permanent, it must be in play and this would nullify all self-mill combos making use of Bitter Ordeal because the cards are going straight from the library to the graveyard instead of from play to the graveyard.
... otherwise, this is an absolutely awesome combo.
January 15, 2011 10:22 p.m.
Yeah... I caught that a bit to late. :/ I'm just keeping it in its original form because I'm still pretty proud of it, despite the whole not working thing. haha. But yeah. Im still trying to break that card... Ill figure it out eventually!
January 16, 2011 2:47 p.m.
Yeah, it's a pretty sweet looking deck. It's just a shame that the gravestorm ability doesn't work like that. I almost built a deck off of a similar idea, until I found out it wouldn't work. :/ You could probably use some sort of combo that bounces creatures in and out of your grave. The first thing that comes to my mind is some form of combo using Enduring Renewal .
January 16, 2011 6:22 p.m.
Yeah. My mind went there too. Its really clunky though. It might be slightly easier with cards like Idyllic Tutor and newer artifacts like Memnite . Itll still probably have to be at least 4 colors though. (maybe only 3 if im lucky?)... Hmmm... Yeah. I think Ill throw together a list soon haha.
January 16, 2011 8:34 p.m.
Another combo you could run to pull this off is card:Ashnod's Altar paired with two Myr Retriever . Then you could run mono black or any other colors you want. I'd almost splash blue for counters, card draw, and Fabricate s.
January 16, 2011 10:19 p.m.
Hmmm... Plus you could run white for Enlightened Tutor . But yeah. Esper colors would be could. The next question would be whether you should go with a control package or just go for straight up combo.
January 17, 2011 1:09 a.m.
Personally I would go with control. Having not tested it yet, my thinking is that this combo won't be one you can reliably pull off within the first few turns. Throwing in control will keep your combo from getting disrupted and also let you get aggressive if you need to keep your opponent's field clean.
Ashnod's Altar has a lot of combos that it works with too. I'm wondering what alternate win conditions could be thrown in that would flesh the deck out a bit?
Ha, I am actually getting pretty interested in this deck idea. It could turn out to be pretty sweet!
January 17, 2011 2:17 a.m.
Good lord this deck Idea is getting delicious... haha
January 17, 2011 1:05 p.m.
January 17, 2011 1:16 p.m.
Someone needs to throw a quick deck list together so we can really start building this out!
January 17, 2011 2:17 p.m.
Okay. Unless anyone objects, I just put posted the deck as Bitter Vault so we can start working on it and play testing it. If you guys are up for it, head on over there and we can start discussion on how to build this thing
January 17, 2011 2:31 p.m.
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This deck is Legacy legal.