Crackdown Control (AER - Retired)

Casual clayperce

SCORE: 53 | 71 COMMENTS | 6244 VIEWS | IN 15 FOLDERS


Playtesting updates —Jan. 25, 2017

I made a bunch of changes to the deck, based on playtesting and raymond-perez-ur-control-top-16-scg-columbus. I'm sure it will continue to evolve, but I'm going to start the season like this.


As always, thanks for all the comments and suggestions so far ... they're archived here or under the View Archive button.

And as a reminder, this is an Izzet Control deck. If you're looking for other approaches, please check the accordion in the deck description :-)

clayperce says... #1

ccmaci,
Yeah, there are a lot of fun infinite Thopter combos out there.

And yeah, Imprisoned in the Moon + Crumble to Dust is a way to nerf and then Exile Planeswalkers or other troublesome cards. I can't really imagine it here though, since it takes 7 mana and 2 cards which don't really synergize with anything else in the deck.

You may have missed this in the "This is an Izzet Control deck, but there are other approaches" section: I figure half the Internet is already trying to break Saheeli and Guardian, so I'm focused on Crackdown Construct for now.

Thanks though.

January 15, 2017 12:23 p.m.

Argy says... #2

You might want to have a playtest against my combo deck Serve the Servos

Something a bit different.

January 15, 2017 10:17 p.m.

hamiam says... #3

Awesome +1

January 16, 2017 12:08 a.m.

ccmaci says... #4

I think you might have read the combo wrong.

This is probably the BEST control you can get with the Crumble to Dust + Imprisoned in the Moon Combo.

What you're doing is using Imprisoned in the Moon on a BASIC land, making it non-basic. Then because the non-basic land is still named a (for example) Plains, you use Crumble to Dust on the non-basic Plains and get rid of ALL THE PLAINS IN THEIR DECK AN FIELD!!!!

January 16, 2017 12:27 p.m.

clayperce says... #7

ccmaci,
Sorry, but that doesn't work. 'Basic' is a supertype. Casting Imprisoned in the Moon on a Plains makes it tap for but it's still a Basic land.

January 16, 2017 12:47 p.m.

ccmaci says... #8

Please just hear me out here, I have video proof at the bottom as well if you need that (the text in the video is told by a judge).

The supertype of the land is changed, Imprisoned in the Moon says "Enchanted permanent IS a COLORLESS LAND" (not a basic) and "loses all other CARD TYPES and abilities"

Also, IF it was because of supertypes, then this combo wouldn't even be able to get rid of Planeswalkers or anything other than a land like you said in your example, the reason for that would be the land "is basic". But no, the Planeswalker loses the supertype PLANESWALKER and turns into NON-BASIC LAND.

Now I know this won't remove the lands on the battlefield, but you're taking 1/3 - 1/2 or even ALL their land from being played ever again. JUST THINK OF THE CONTROL HERE. I've seen NO ONE use this combo at my LGS but instead 2 videos on the topic, you can be the one to spread it!!!!!!

If you need more proof then watch the video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tch95zSFODo

January 16, 2017 8:09 p.m.

clayperce says... #9

ccmaci,
I repeat: Sorry, but that doesn't work.

You and the Judge in your video should probably read the Gatherer text for Imprisoned in the Moon:

  • The permanent will keep any supertypes it previously had ... (y'all should probably read Rules 205.4c and 305.6 too, but again, Basic is a supertype, not a type).
  • If the enchanted permanent is a land and has land types, it retains those types even though it loses any intrinsic mana abilities associated with them. For example, a Plains enchanted by Imprisoned in the Moon is still a Plains, but it cant tap for White, only for Colorless.

And even if it did work, I repeat: I can't really imagine it here though, since it takes 7 mana and 2 cards which don't really synergize with anything else in the deck.

Thanks though.

January 16, 2017 9:48 p.m.