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Competitive EDH Tier List

Commander / EDH*

Perplex


Description

This is a Tier List I made for Competitive EDH (CEDH) play, so it will only go to Tier 2. Anything lower than Tier 2 will most likely not see play in a CEDH pod. Most of these decks are built with no budget, to be played in a 3-4 person pod, and to be as cutthroat as possible. If you would like to join the discussion, feel free to post here, subscribe to the subreddit which you can find here: www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveEDH/

Or you can also join the the Discord channel here: https://discord.gg/w4R6atJ

NOTE: The decks in each tier are in no particular order, they are just alphabetized.

  • Ancestral Animar: This deck is really close to making the tier 2 cut, but has several issues right now. First the cost to cast him csn make him come down late which can make it to slow compared to other fragile combo decks. On top of that, he has a lot of issues f he gets behind and has a hard time recovering.
  • Arcum Dagsson: After the mulligan change this deck fell pretty far behind. However, with the release of Paradox Engine this deck has potential to move back up to Tier 2. There is already people brewing this deck, but it will require testing before it is actually added to the list.
  • Scion Druid: So 5c Druid has mostly been replaced with Thrasios, Triton Hero 4c decks. He may still be worth building and can make it to Tier 2, but there isn't any up to date decklists or people playing it.
  • Sliver Engine: Is a deck still be worked on and tuned by Garta that has potential to be Tier 2. It's already really close to making the cut, but needs more playtesting and tuning.
  • Sram Cheerios: Is a deck currently being worked on by Garta, but the Commander was just recently spoiled in Aether Revolt so the deck is still in it's testing phases. This deck has a lot of potential to be Tier 2 with more playtesting and tuning.

Updates

Comments

JaysonSunshine says... #1

Very nice. Thank you.

January 15, 2017 2:38 p.m.

Visage_EDH says... #2

Missing a decklist for 5-Colour Midrange, as you've got 2 lists for Thrasios in Tier 1.5 :)

January 15, 2017 2:43 p.m.

tenrose says... #3

Thanks again for supporting my Thrasios Glory and Azami Tide lists! The tiers look pretty defined now. I'll be messaging you regularly to keep this updated!

January 15, 2017 3:05 p.m.

Kiyomeii says... #4

Feels like putting derevi in tier 2 is a mistake no although just another personal opinion , but what's up with the random "top of the top" decks being decks created like this month or even earlier and with barely any views , upvotes , explanation or reasoning behind them ? there are different levels of pilots over here on tapped out and the reasoning or better the main deal with something being tier 1 and tier 1.5 has no clear difference explained...

why is something tier 1 over 1.5 and etc... i'd love to see that carefully explained ;)

January 15, 2017 5:55 p.m.

BarbeChenue says... #5

Scion is listed in 1.5, but is mentioned as a "Notable Exclusion". Error?

January 15, 2017 7:28 p.m.

Perplex says... #6

BarbeChenue yeah, was an error. He was going to be 1.5 originally, however its hard to justify it right now because we dont have any dedicated players that play him and most people have switched to Thrasios. The deck isnt bad by any means, its just super all-in and glass cannon. NarejED does like scion druid though, so he may update his list and it will be added again.

Kiyomeii A lot of these decks already have Primers and what not, however I can only hyperlink other tappedout decklists on here so several decks were ported over from their original sources. Im also doing all this from a mobile phone at this time, and wont have access to a computer for another 2-3 months, so thats why I didnt go into to much detail with resoning. Theres also the fact that people will take decklists and just upload them, instead of creating a new primer, assuming most CEDH already know how to play it already or will be able to glance over the list see the lines of play. It may seem lazy, however the CEDH community is very small and only a small portion of that are the true deck brewers. If they tried to write a full on primer for each deck it would be a full time job for them.

tenrose Welcome! Glad most of us on Discord could agree on this.

Visage_EDH If you have a list you think is worth it, feel free to message me it or comment it. I can post it on discord and get everyones opinion.

JaysonSunshine Welcome, enjoy!

January 15, 2017 8:14 p.m.

Kiyomeii says... #7

well from a phone that must be quite troublesome, but some of these commanders don't get played in our meta at all yet, or differently from how they are supposed to be played out, so for me it's mostly scouting ahead of time before someone starts one of these bad boys... i purely do this to get an insight what their prime purpose and playstyle is to be prepared a bit, because every deck will be tuned toward their meta as well but mostly align with their prime "wincon/playstyle"...

Yet sometimes i wonder about the reason they are a certain tier when they are just there without any explanation...

Also i have worked on a derevi Description for a very long time now and decided to upload her a while ago ... i don't mind her being tier 2, she can still stop the tier 1's ... it's just the partial crafting hurted her quite a bit...anyway i have insane amounts of playtime with her, and i am aware my lands suck and am missing some cards(maybeboard)...

but i'de like your discords opinion on it if that is possible. An illusion? What are you hiding? (STAX) (Tier 1) My aim ; being one of the best descriptions disregarding landbase and missing card and explain them as well even if i don't have them, etc ...

January 15, 2017 9:23 p.m.

Perplex says... #8

Kiyomeii Could you make a new decklist with no budget? Its hard to judge your deck when you are using subpar cards. If you could tune it as best you can and then share it, it would be easier to assess.

January 15, 2017 9:26 p.m.

Kiyomeii says... #9

i could change it to how i'd love it to look like with no budget ;) but for me it's all about the description that is currently on it, though i'll create it tommorow ;)

January 15, 2017 9:42 p.m.

Gates88 says... #10

Having Thrasios in both tier 1 and tier 2 is very confusing. I understand why after seeing the decklists, but you should really just pick one.

January 15, 2017 11:37 p.m.

NarejED says... #11

Yeah, listing certain commanders multiple times for different builds seemed odd to me too. It's my only real complaint though.

January 16, 2017 1:01 a.m.

Perplex says... #12

Gates88 Meant to fix that last night but I forgot before I went to bed. Its been fixed now though.

NarejED already fixed!

January 16, 2017 1:23 a.m.

Gates88, I like the idea of having the same commander with different builds listed in different tiers, though it would be better if that information could be included in the top portion. However, I don't think that's possible on Tapped Out at this time.2

January 16, 2017 3:19 a.m.

Visage_EDH says... #14

You've already addressed my point with the comment you addressed at BarbeChenue:

"He was going to be 1.5 originally, however its hard to justify it right now because we dont have any dedicated players that play him and most people have switched to Thrasios. The deck isnt bad by any means, its just super all-in and glass cannon. NarejED does like scion druid though, so he may update his list and it will be added again."

January 16, 2017 3:48 a.m.

Kiyomeii says... #15

so after some research i guess this would be the no budget one that like 0.01% of the player base will have with the best lands in slot and the tweaks i would of added still:

(NoBudgetVersion) An illusion,What are you hiding?

compared to my personal one:

An illusion? What are you hiding? (STAX) (Tier 1)

January 16, 2017 4:31 p.m.

NarejED says... #16

January 16, 2017 5:27 p.m.

Crayonmuffin says... #17

Surprised to see Meren in tier 2. First time I've seen a list that doesn't have her in tier 1.

Anyway, is the General Tazri there just for 5 color decks or does that card specifically serve an actual purpose. Never seen it used outside of casual ally decks.

January 21, 2017 8:29 p.m.

Kiyomeii says... #18

@Crayonmuffin it lacks a proper color , it will never be tier 1 ..

January 21, 2017 8:42 p.m.

Gates88 says... #19

Crayonmuffin Tazri is there because she can run a 5 color Food Chain deck better than other 5 color generals since she can tutor for Kalastria Healer/Hagra Diabolist and repeatedly recast herself once you have infinite mana from Food Chain+Misthollow Griffin/Eternal Scourge to get infinite ETB triggers. If you looked at the decklist you would know that.

January 22, 2017 4:50 a.m.

NarejED says... #20

Aaaaaand finished. Thanks for the indirect input @Perplex.

January 22, 2017 5:05 a.m.

TheHamster says... #21

man, I've versed and defeated like pretty much all of these commanders with a Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter EDH, it suprises me with all of these lists, yes i get they're generally what sees play in EDH competative pods, but they're still really easy to defeat.

January 24, 2017 2:50 p.m.

Perplex says... #22

TheHamster its easy to say that without posting a decklist..

January 25, 2017 9:22 a.m.

Lilbrudder says... #23

TheHamster I totally agree. Its so easy to beat that Advisor Tribal Leovold Deck and group hug Zur deck at my LGS too :-()

January 25, 2017 9:43 a.m.

TheHamster says... #24

@Perplex my deck list is on my page.

January 25, 2017 10:12 a.m.

tenrose says... #25

Facing and beating a deck with one of the listed commanders at the helm doesn't make the deck competitive. The cards in the 99 mixed with the pilot's skills and abilities are what makes it competitive. Beating a casual Zur Voltron or a casual Thrasios Beats deck doesn't mean anything in a competitive setting.

January 25, 2017 2:58 p.m.

Kiyomeii says... #26

@TheHamster That list of yours doesn't come near to the power of any commanders listed here, that is ofcourse if their list is optimized to why they are on here ... else like others have said you probably faced some tribal/hug/casual versions of them...

and yes you might beat those as well from time to time , but 90% of the time they will consistently outrace you...

January 25, 2017 3:26 p.m.

kilgore says... #27

@TheHamster I think you should take a look at the deck lists before making a comment like that.

Your list has an avg. CMC of 3.8 and little to no ramp. It would never keep up to any of the decks listed here.

January 29, 2017 11:56 p.m.

BarbeChenue says... #28

It would be nice if this could be a "living list". Perhaps updating it after the Spring Tournament of the cEDH Subreddit? (https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveEDH/comments/5r25z8/announcing_rcompetitiveedhs_fifth_tournament/)

February 6, 2017 4:43 a.m.

Perplex says... #29

BarbeChenue I plan to keep it updated, I'm fairly active on the Discord and Reddit.

February 7, 2017 11:43 p.m.

Scorpios says... #30

Is Kaalia of the Vast in any way competitive? I've noticed she's no longer even in tier 2.

February 9, 2017 1:29 a.m.

Rarian says... #31

Btw my Rashmi list over there is outdated, much better one is the current storm list build around Scepter + Reversal and, the star of the deck, Paradox Engine :):

Rashmi, Crafter of Masterpiece (Paradoxical Storm)

It is already on NarejED's list but you may change the deck on yours as well :).

February 10, 2017 9:57 a.m.

Considering there probably aren't a lot of Borborygmos Enraged deck lists out there, here is a link to my deck that contains a primer that goes over card choices and the general strategy of the deck

Huge Tracts of Lands

February 14, 2017 2:23 p.m.

Please disregard my comment about Borborygmus Enraged. It was meant for the tier list made by NarejED

February 14, 2017 2:38 p.m.

triforce1996 says... #34

yisan is banned, and if we're talking about competitive as in french, derevi is banned as well last i checked

March 9, 2017 11:07 p.m.

kilgore says... #35

This is a tier list for competitive multiplayer EDH. Not duel/french commander.

March 9, 2017 11:17 p.m.

BarbeChenue says... #36

Marchesa stax is listed in the spoiler section with the decklists and links, but not as part of the 'custom categories' with the Commander cards listed.

March 21, 2017 12:26 a.m.

marsthesoos says... #37

The Rashmi lists that are competitive actually are draw go control decks similar to Rashmi's Permission Slip. Rashmi storm isn't all that great and has been incredibly lackluster in testing

June 18, 2017 1:22 p.m.

marsthesoos says... #38

Rashmi storm isn't really a comp deck. The actually comp Rashmi decks have all moved to control

July 4, 2017 12:29 a.m.

pawelkata says... #39

Suggesting getting rid of Leovold because of the ban.

July 26, 2017 12:30 p.m.

spudman3d says... #40

I know you mentioned him in the notable exclusions, but I think that Arcum can certainly be in the tier two column, especially if you have things like alesha and azami, which Arcum can certainly compete on an even level with. If you don't think he is tier two, that is fine, but I personally think he should be included in your tier two list.

July 28, 2017 6:04 p.m.

will we get an update on Sram Cheerios now that we're well past Kaladesh? (Notable exclusions needs updating!)

August 10, 2017 2:49 p.m.

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