- 4x Hedron Crab
- 4x Jace's Phantasm
- 1x Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker
- 2x Phenax, God of Deception
- 2x Returned Phalanx
- 4x Wall of Frost
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It's a budget deck and it looks nice and I like it :-D +1 from me.
June 15, 2014 4:57 a.m.
June 16, 2014 11:37 a.m.
I have been looking into adding Breaking / Entering and Hedron Crab , but because i try to keep as much control over the battlefield as i can i chose to add Fog Bank over Hedron Crab (to keep combat damage from happening in case i don't have an immediate removal when needed) and i really like Breaking / Entering but it only mills ones while the creatures i added can mill multiple times.
Visions of Beyond would be good as long as i had more then twenty cards in my graveyard because i exile my opponents graveyard to prevent dredge and reanimation from happening. (especially with effects that activate when a card comes into play like Gray Merchant of Asphodel )
June 16, 2014 12:23 p.m.
another strong card would be Jace's Phantasm , they are 1/ea so it fits inside almost any budget and its 1 mana for essentially a 5/5.
I would take out psychic strike because that will eat up a good amount of your mana when you have 18 cards with 3+ cost, your mana will be a little tight.
Breaking / Entering is strong because it starts the mill so running 4 of these is necessary.
June 16, 2014 1:23 p.m.
First of all, thanks for your comment uiuiho12, really appreciate it :).
Yes, i think your right about the Wall and Phenax, gonna add 2 more walls and 1 more Phenax.
I've also removed Geth's Verdict and swapped it for 2 Go for the Throat (i find it one of the best removals in modern except for the ones that remove permanents/planeswalkers like Hero's Downfall ) because Verdict isn't a direct target.
I really like Jace's Phantasm , but it won't work out that well in this deck as it focusses on exiling your opponents graveyard too against those annoying dredge and reanimiation decks out there and of course Tarmogoyf .
I've also removed a Syncopate (since it's my worst counter) to make room for another Phenax, a Psychic Strike for another wall, but not sure what to remove for another wall and for the 4 Breaking / Entering , i think swapping one for the single Mind Grind i have is good but other then that, i have no idea what to remove, so if you have any suggestions be my guest :)
June 16, 2014 2:13 p.m.
Because there are a lot of decks in modern that don't have Tarmogoyf in them, running Jace's Phantasm is fine, as they are a good option to sideboard out against dredging decks and lets you put pressure on more than one front. even against dredge, a 1mana 5/5 can still block/make then not attack.
June 16, 2014 8:35 p.m.
Swappwd out the last Pshyxix Strike for another Wall, swapped 2 Fog banks for 2 phantasms and a Mind Grind for another one :)
June 17, 2014 12:47 a.m.
Traumatize + Consuming Aberration with Phenax, God of Deception is pretty much am instant win. And a turn 6 win with a mill deck is pretty good. It is also a fairly cheap card if I remember correctly.
June 17, 2014 12:58 a.m.
Thanks for the feedback :)!
June 17, 2014 3:06 a.m.
Good trade. :) I don't blame you. Mill decks need to be as fast as possible anyway.
June 17, 2014 4:06 a.m.
June 17, 2014 12:16 p.m.
Not bad. I've found it really hard to make a good -budget- mill deck. It's an interesting concept.
June 18, 2014 3:27 a.m.
The thing i had trouble with is the amount of graveyard interaction in modern.
So i added a few ways to exile it.
Still thinking of a way to add 2 more Breaking / Entering to speed it up though.
June 18, 2014 5:04 a.m.
So is this a deck for just fun or what? It looks like a modern deck and most of the cards in here are not allowed in standard
June 19, 2014 2 a.m.
June 19, 2014 6:48 a.m.
Where is the Psychic Strike? I would also add in a Liliana of the Dark Realms with Mind Grind
June 22, 2014 9:19 p.m.
Another good creature to look at that I use is Wight of Precinct Six . It gets bigger with the opponents graveyard - cost 2 mana to drop. If worried about Tarmogoyf deck it's a great sideboard option.
June 22, 2014 9:25 p.m.
For a modern deck this seems very slow. You'll probably get yourself eaten alive before you could ever cast Lord of the Void or other big cards with CMC over 4. If I were you, I would shift the mana curve way more left.
Raise Hedron Crab from 2x to 4x, it's one of the nicest cheap mill cards there is. If you use that, you can also alter your mana base to trigger the Landfall more often by using Terramorphic Expanse , Evolving Wilds and/or Dimir Aqueduct . You could also use more Mind Funeral and have Mind Sculpt or Increasing Confusion in there as well. To sabotage the opponent's key cards, I'd also have 4x Surgical Extraction , at least in my sideboard.
June 23, 2014 2:26 a.m.
Thanks for the detailed feedback!
I'd love to add Increased Confusion or another Mind Funeral, but ibhave no clue on what to drop for them, so if you have any suggestions be my guest :)
June 25, 2014 1:11 a.m.
would try to keep it as standard as possible to take to an fnm. keep it simple dont try to do too much with it or it wont work. throwing just 1 copy of a card is not going to make any difference stick to sets of 3 or 4 that are critical to the deck and then 3's or 2's of the other stuff. you want a consistent deck that has the ability to adapt to the game if it isnt going your way but till get the job done in a effective and reliable way
June 25, 2014 1:42 a.m.
Mill in standard at fnm is not the type of deck to win, not with the amount of control decks out there at the moment that's why i didn't bother making it standard.
The reason i run a few singles is cause some just aren't that usefull a second time (e.g. Traumatize ), but i do agree on the consistency part, that's why i posted the deck on tapped cause i can't decide what to drop and what not.
June 25, 2014 2:03 a.m.
But 1 consuming and 1 mind funeral 1 elixir and 1 countersquall arent going to do any good they are just sitting there in your deck wasting away because the chances drawing them are so slim its not worth it and a lot of the control decks that i have seen around where i play and live anyways are very heavily filled with creature and enchantment removal. its hard to stop a systematic deck that is constantly putting out mill when most of it isnt creatures. they may have counterspells but how many can they possibly have before it comes to the point they run out and you get ashiok out and with the mill it will help get rid of those counterspells. also a good combo if you are that worried is ashiok with jace memory adept. 0 ability is opponent mills 10 cards.
June 25, 2014 2:16 a.m.
this is what i would do to that deck at first gimpse
June 25, 2014 3:02 a.m.
Thanks, that gave me an idea for some usefull swaps :).
I'd like to keep this at around $30 though so there are some cards i can't add. I also like to run 24 land (2 land to have a mana dump for milling in case of an unlucy draw or leftover mana at the end of my opponents turn) cause i want to be sure that i am able to play phenax as soon as possible.
I'll see if i can find some more ways to improve it
June 25, 2014 3:36 a.m.
July 8, 2014 8:42 a.m.
@Sebster - Thnx for your comment :)
I'm running a single Mirko Vosk, cause i didn't want to flood the deck with lots of 5 drops. I used to have Consuming Aberration in this deck, but it's mana cost is also 5 and his ability would rarely trigger because his power would be too big to take a hit from, that's also why i favored Mirko Vosk over him since he has an evasive passive ability. The reason i only run a single (which i'm not a big fan of) is to keep the deck an actual budget deck since i decided to add a second Phenax instead cause of it's synergy with the phantasms and walls.
July 8, 2014 1:06 p.m.
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|Date added||3 years|
|Last updated||3 years|
This deck is Modern legal.
|Folders||Commander Decks, Modern, Decks I bought, modern decks, When I'm evil|
|Top rank||#74 on 2014-06-25|