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B/W Tokens! 16-7!

vednar

Standard*

Score: 2


Description

With my own Flavour of course...

I've been playing with this and U/b/w Delver along with Delver Blade and I've noticed that the B/W tokens is much more consistent. You can place in the top 1/3 with this deck but with Delver you can place from 1st to last.

Take that for what its worth!

Updates

FNM Standard — June 2, 2012

MY bud has officially taken over this deck and placed 2-2 last night. I know he beat U/r Delver (Minni list from 2 weekends ago) but didn't fair well against R/G Aggro. Not sure what the other two decks he faced were (will update later) but for the first time in 2 months this deck did not make at least Top 8.

Game Day Avacyn Restored 2-2 — May 26, 2012

Same controller as last week. (BFF, lol) Did horrible against humans and did well against decks that should be beat.

Standard Tourney 2-1 — May 20, 2012

Yet another different controller for the deck! The only loss it took was to me and I was playing my Angels and Humans deck.

Round 1 ?

2-1 against a newb player

Round 2 Angels/Humans Deck

0-2 Against me

Round 3 u/r/b Mill

2-0

Even though it gets different controllers its still puts up good results!


3rd! — April 28, 2012

3rd Place FNM!

3-1

Lost in round 2 to the eventually champion... you guessed it, Kibler Pod! He changed his sideboard to include Ratchet Bombs and used them extremely effectively. Next standard tourney, I will sideboard in Stony Silence as a counter. Epic Battle continues and I'm not even the controller of the deck!


First Place FNM! — April 21, 2012

I lent my deck to a friend and he went 4-0, beating the mirror that still used Sorins, Kibler Pod, and a few other good decks along the way! This is the version I plan on sticking with for awhile as play testing had yielded positive results across the board as well.

We were discussing the deck before hand and he felt the need to bring in all control cards every Game 2. Take out what you don't feel doesn't work, (this time it was Hero of Bladehold and Tragic Slip)

Before the conversion he had gone 3-1 with the deck and 2-2. Based on the meta changes I made (Kibler Pod had won 3 FNM's in a row by the same controller and in the Final it was my B/W tokens vs the 3x Defending Champ Kibler Pod!

I told my bud if he didn't take down Kibler Pod no one could! He did not disappoint. LOL!


32 Player Standard Tourney — March 24, 2012

Played a 32 Player Standard Tourney today and placed in T9th by virtue of points and 12th overall. Lost the first two round due to absolutely brutal hands and playing again very skilled opponents who actually ended up in the top 8. (One finished in Second)

First 2 rounds I played 4 games and had to mull to 6 each time and should have mulled to 5 realistically, but with a tokens hand, mulling to 5 is an instant loss almost. Needless to say I went 0-2 those rounds. Pretty much everyone was running a Tier 1 deck which was pretty crazy.

Round 3 I faced up against Delver Spirits and because I have that deck as well I knew what to expect. Played it to best of my ability and did get the round 3 win 2-1.

From there my cards stabilized and I was able to take Round 4 and 5 for a 3-2 record! Definitely a fun night!


Changes — March 21, 2012

Looking at limited sample playing size (1 tourney and about 10-15 games playing with regulars of various decks) It became abundantly clear that the deck has merit. However, having only 4 cards in at the 1 drop needed to be addressed. I've decided to remedy this by adding 3 Doomed Travellers and evening it out with COPS at 3x as well. So I am now at 6 creatures at the one drop. I was running 2x Doom Blade, but at a very busy 2 CMC spot. By adding tragic slip I now have an answer to a Turn 1 Delver with a 1 mana cost spell. (Especially useful if I lose the roll or win Game 1 or miss 1 of my 6 one mana creatures)

I've kept 1x Evolving Wilds in case I ever need to fetch a Black Mana, but am considering replacing it with a Shimmering Grotto as I am minus 2 lands due to Evolving. (1 for the card plus 1 card taken out)

I made these changes because I noted a deficiency at Turn 1. I think this was an easy fix that not only does not harm the deck, but vastly improves it.

I also took away 1x Hero (2 remaining) and added 1x Grand Abolisher. This is the only play test I have in the deck right now, but his abilities are pretty amazing. He may make a future appearance in the side board. For now I'm seeing what he can do when he does pop up.

As for side boarding, almost every game 2 I am removing 2x Sorin for something in my sideboard. He's great Game 1 if I get him out, but there are things I would rather do if I miss my win condition from turns 4 to 6 then play a Sorin.


Standard Tourney 3-1 — March 17, 2012

Played my first Standard Tourney on the 17th, went 3-1. Lost to a Rogue Elf Deck, 1-2 with no idea what to do against it. Beat a Delver, Red Deck Wins, and a Red Flare Deck.(not sure on that last one)

I learned that side boarding helps. A Faith's Shield with Fateful hour prevented 6 damage when my life counter was at 5. In return over the next two turns I was able to steal the game. However, it also occurred to me that to pull those kind of miracles is not common and that I have to use more playable cards. Tragic Slip has since replaced those cards. (Although they will always have a special place in my heart)

I have a lot to learn about the cards that currently exist in Standard, but for my first 3 weeks playing I've had a chance to learn and to have fun. Can't wait for next Saturday!


— March 15, 2012

Added a 1x Mirran Crusader 1x Elite Inquisitor to main and same for the sideboard. Want to start experimenting with the 2 and 3 drop slot and see which one works. Will side one for the other in game two and three but right now really liking both cards in there. Too bad they aren't the same mana cost. Also will be experimenting with 4x Doomed Traveller and 4x Champion of the Parish and taking out -1 Crusader, -1 Inquisitor, and -2 Hero as I play test.

Got rid of the SoFaF and removed -1 Sorin as I was drawing more then one in multiple games (dead card). Loving the 2x Doom Blade but will start experimenting with the number of Oblivion Rings, Intangible virtue, and Honor of the Pure.

I know people are adding Swords and Pikes and Shrine's but I think that takes away from the synergy of this deck. There are tons of things that keep it running at full speed and are tough to counter. Learned very early not to over extend. Can easily over come Ratchet Bombs and board wipes multiple times.


More Changes — Feb. 28, 2012

I've play tested some cards added by the original creator and seen how well they work together. I'm missing 1x Hero but I've got everything else now. Will be dropping the final Elspeth out and bringing in that Hero.

More Cards — Feb. 26, 2012

Very expensive deck to make! Had to buy many pieces and do a lot of trades! Took about 7 days, 70 Packs, and about $400 to get everything needed. Still missing one Hero and one Honour of the Pure.

The search continues...

D2r2b says...

#1

Hey, just because i removed elspeth from my deck doesnt mean shes not good, i just found she didnt add a lot to my Meta. As for your deck drop the Elgaud InquisitorMTG Card: Elgaud Inquisitor hes just bad! Maybe add another Increasing DevotionMTG Card: Increasing Devotion?

February 27, 2012 12:15 a.m.

D2r2b says...

#2

Curious what are you going to use Liliana for from your SB?

March 3, 2012 12:31 p.m.

D2r2b says...

#3

whats Reddit?

March 3, 2012 7:15 p.m.

vednar says...

#4

http://www.reddit.com/r/magictcg

Basically one of the top websites of the world. In its sub topics this exists where many magic players gather. (lol)

March 4, 2012 10:27 a.m.

D2r2b says...

#5

Personally im not a fan of blade splicer in here... splicer only gets pumped from honor and the golem only gets pumped by the virtue. I have midnight haunting in there instead because it gives you 2 fliers that get pumped from both.

March 4, 2012 6:50 p.m.

Shrine of Loyal Legions lets you overcommit and not get punished for it. Seems a lot better than Increasing Devotion.

March 11, 2012 12:12 a.m.

vednar says...

#7

I've seen that Shrine in action and it looks really good. I will take that into consideration, thank you!

March 11, 2012 12:46 p.m.

boston-boy says...

#8

i would take out 2 honor's and add in 1 mirran and 1 inquisitor

March 15, 2012 11:06 p.m.

vednar says...

#9

Thanks! It's something that I am highly considering. To be honest, its like you read my mind, I'm going to be playing some serious magic today (like 10 hours) and will be subbing that in and out as the day goes along.

How do you feel about Grand Abolisher in there as a two of. (Either to replace Mirran or Inquisitor) and adding Faith's Shield either to the MB or SB?

March 16, 2012 11:10 a.m.

boston-boy says...

#10

i would throw the sheild in side board for sure and for the abolisher, i would first play the first game to see how your opoinent plays and then if they are using a lot of instants on your turn or if they dont play zombies, werewolves or vampires, then trade out the abloishers for the inquisitors but other than that i say the deck is good as is, and may not even need the abolishers, if you want you can look at my black white version of this called deck:blackwhite-sorin

March 16, 2012 4:05 p.m.

D2r2b says...

#11

I recently found out that adding Doomed Traveler in aswell is very good, I see youve added in Elite inquisitor at most i would only SB the card unless your meta is just zombie/wolf/vampire decks. I have to mention though that the way Token decks win is having all those anthems out if i were you i would put those 2 honor of the pure back in, and maybe SB one out if need be.

I have put in those Doomed Travelers as of last night and taken out 1 sorin, 1 oblivion ring, and 2 increasing devotion. Im still trying to find a way to keep increasing devotion in the deck because it can give you a big turn around late game.

Like to see your trying to make your own variation though

March 17, 2012 7:19 p.m.

boston-boy says...

#12

d2r2b is right, but you dont need that many buffs, think of it like this, you swing 4 tokens with an intangible virtue on the field, so they are all 2/2 at least not including maybe one honor or a sorin emblem, and lets say 2 are spirits and 2 are humans so when they put up their blockers to get your humans out of the way so they take less damage, you activate your vault of the archangel, that way you gain at least 8 life back and you kill anything that is blocking your humans unless they are indestructible, so its a win no matter what because you deal more significant damage and take out their big creatures

March 17, 2012 9:25 p.m.

vednar says...

#13

I think a compromise is in place, I've brought in the Grand Abolisher as a 1x and bumped up the Honour 1x to 3x. With some more playing, eventually I will discover what works best. Thanks for the info and keep it coming!

I will report back with my thoughts as well.

March 17, 2012 9:32 p.m.

boston-boy says...

#14

oh, my bad i thought you already had at least 2 honors in your deck, then yeah maybe go to 2 honors and 2 abolishers that way you can get a better chance at having the abolisher see play, and you still get the honor buff.

March 17, 2012 9:36 p.m.

boston-boy says...

#15

oh and what happened to your mirran crusader, they are pretty good, especially in this kind of deck, just thin a 3/3 mirran which swings for 6 baasically, and has pro black/green which is what most decks are in standard, and good job moving the inquisitors to side board, that way if you play a vamp,were,zombie deck you can have a prefect sideboard

March 17, 2012 9:42 p.m.

vednar says...

#16

Doh, I had it at 2x, I meant I increased it 1x to a total of 3x. I am subbing a creature in and out every time I go play, yesterday I had 2x Inquisitors and 2x Crusader. Now I have 2x Doomed and 1x Abolisher and 1x Honour (total of 3 Honour)

March 17, 2012 9:44 p.m.

boston-boy says...

#17

oh nice, how is it going for you?

March 17, 2012 9:48 p.m.

vednar says...

#18

I played today at the Standard tourney at my LGS and went 3-1. I had it with 2x Elite Inquisitor and 2x Honour (different then what I just changed it to) I lost round 2 to a Rogue Elf deck. I'm new to most Standard Competitive and developing competitive decks so I knew absolutely nothing about this Rogue Elf deck. Won game 1 but he was able to get off his win conditions game 2 and 3. His tourney total was 1-3, but I did have tons of fun playing and that's all I'm really after at this point!

March 17, 2012 9:53 p.m.

boston-boy says...

#19

yeah, your deck seems to work cause thats about as good as i do, so it works definitely, your biggest problem though will be wolf run and trample decks because your creatures wont have the toughness to block all the trample

March 17, 2012 9:57 p.m.

vednar says...

#20

Yeah, I have considered this, that's why if I see my LGS meta going towards this, I have created Sam Black's Delver Spirit deck 1:1. (The one Jon Finkel used in Honolulu).

I will be playing Standard alternating between the two.

March 17, 2012 10:14 p.m.

D2r2b says...

#21

This deck doesnt do bad against wolf run, its fast and has fliers. Only problem ivr had is inkmoth nexus. So i have a couple tragic slip and 2 curse of deaths hold in SB

March 20, 2012 6:53 p.m.

boston-boy says...

#22

thats actually a good idea, i think ill do that hahha

March 22, 2012 3:46 p.m.

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$83.65 $132.15 $321.92
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Date added 2 years
Last updated 1 year
Legal formats None
Sets Avacyn Restored , Dark Ascension, Innistrad, 2012 Core Set
Cards 60
Avg. CMC 2.41

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