Because BroHug.

Needs a few cuts, going for a full Group Hug with some Teferi-related love, mostly manifesting in every card with Phasing I could muster. I hesitate to put Barrin, Master Wizard in here simply because it already needs a bunch of cuts, and other than Feldon's Cane I don't really think I have (m)any ways to bring stuff back from my graveyard.

The land base is not ideal, I know, but it's what I have available. As it is, there will likely be very few basics in here at all, if any...which has me considering a super-silly Blood Moon + Celestial Dawn combo to throw in the deck as well, but unfortunately since this is also a re-tooling of Jhoira (of) the Git, I've had to double-down on the group hug effects - but am very grateful to have cards like Awaken and Dictate of Karametra in here, for even more shenanigans.

One thought I have is to remove AEtherize and Polymorphist's Jest and just keep the traditional board-wiping effects like Supreme Verdict and Fumigate since they're more universal in their effects - unless I drop Radiate back in here to target Polymorphist's Jest but's a wonderfully silly idea, but I'm not sure I want to build around it like I did with Demonic Pact and Starfield of Nyx in Dan Brown: EDH Edition. The silly pipe dream included in this deck? Ball Lightning & Spark Trooper + Phasing, particularly Teferi's Veil and Vanishing.

As it stands, I think I'm OK with the mana base as-is, but that still means I need 30+ cuts as of the first draft,, please?



TristanmanDfsj says... #1

I think that not only are you running too few basic lands, that you are also running too few lands in general. Kynaios and Tiro synergize very well with lands, and making the most of their ability requires having a large land count, because you ideally want to use their ability to a greater effect than your opponents, even if it's for the sole purpose of hugging them better.

The other thing is that you are running a lot of group hug effects, even though many of them are sub-par. I would cut many of the weaker group hug cards, and keep the good ones. If you want, I can help you with that.

March 16, 2017 6:01 p.m.

ardilly says... #2

@TristanmanDfsj I can see where you're coming from re:lands, but the deck this is based on, Jhoira (of) the Git, only runs 27 lands and I've never had any major problems when running that deck - granted, Jhoira is much easier to cast, it's only a 2-color deck, and practically-guaranteed Suspension from turn 4-onwards makes it all much easier to play...which is why I bumped the land count up to 33 for this iteration.

I'm curious what cards you consider to be "sub-par" for group hug effects, and am certainly open to suggestions & recommendations for cuts!

March 16, 2017 6:50 p.m.

chaosfarmer says... #3

My first two big thoughts:

1) some of the cards are a little on the weak, "do too little" side. I'm thinking of puppet strings and disruptive student here as examples. 5 mana to tap something or just making every spell cost 1 more mana might be too little impact for the deck. There's probably a few others in there that could be cut for just not accomplishing enough or being efficient enough.

2) there's a fair number of mana rocks when trading some out for additional lands might synergize better with the commander's ability. Similar goal met of color fixing and ramp, but without having to cast anything to do it. That doesn't help the cutting process, but you could probably replace some of the rocks with a slightly smaller number of additional lands, so, maybe it helps a little? :P

March 17, 2017 7:43 p.m.

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