Breakfast Hulk

Commander / EDH LabManiac_Sigi

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Oct. 7, 2018

Moved to Maybeboard:

  • Swords to Plowshares

IN:

  • Assassin's Trophy

Skimsurfer13 says... #1

Hey LabManiac_Sigi,

I was wondering if you could provide better insight on your land base? No need to explain the fetches and og duals but the rest would be really appreciated.

Thanks you

March 28, 2018 3:41 p.m.

JustACard says... #2

I do have a question, why does tappedout say Muldrotha, the Gravetide is banned? I replaced it with Auriok Salvagers for the time being. I was curious cause not even Wizards recognize the card when i tried to seach for it on their website. The reason i did not link Muldothra was cause tappedout wouldn't let me cause it says it is banned

March 31, 2018 6:04 p.m.

JustACard says... #3

Nevermind, i kept looking around to find out it was only a leaked new creature of the newest set. Thats why tapped out and other sites are not recognizing the card. Sorry

March 31, 2018 6:14 p.m.

demonicgrizzly says... #4

I am surprised you got rid of the second half of the bomberman combo.

April 1, 2018 7:40 a.m.

animeno says... #5

I am also surprised by the removal of the bomberman combo, however i assume this is because you can do it with muldrotha, LED and phantasmal image. Also, what are peoples thoughts on mox amber? does it have a place in this deck given the addition of muldrotha or is it a waste of space?

April 2, 2018 11:51 p.m.

Darksanctuary says... #6

How does muldrotha, LED and phantasmal image infinite? also i noticed caterpillar has gone now for rec sage

April 3, 2018 4:26 a.m.

animeno says... #7

Darksanctuary This link explains it better, https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveEDH/comments/86lxv6/muldrotha_the_gravetide_combo/

Basically it recurs both LED and Muldrotha creating infinite mana much like bomberman, however in that link, one of the key cards is animate dead (a card that is not in this list). I assume that Sigi has a different but similar plan, however im not too sure how it will work.

Either way this new combo allows the lab man combo to still function whilst having twister loops as an immediate backup for infinite swans etc.

April 3, 2018 7:38 a.m.

Darksanctuary says... #8

Necromancy is in his list which would still work. i was mainly asking the infinite because you mentioned 3 cards not the 4th :p

April 3, 2018 4:30 p.m.

neolithic says... #9

Sigi, you can't drop such a bomb on us and then keep quiet :(Why didn't you correct the text first and then the Deck. I personally don't see the advantage of this combo in this deck. Probably I'm unable to see it... The result is the same, but the Muldrotha combo seems more vulnerable to me. Before the change you reanimate Angel of Glory's Rise and after its triggered ability is resolved you're safe, because of Grand Abolisher. With the new combo your opponents are able to interact afterwards. With the Angel your opponents need to know your deck to know that grand Abolisher will hit the board. Or am I wrong with these thoughts? :/

April 4, 2018 5:06 a.m.

elfric says... #10

@ neolithic - at first it improves card efficiency. led is in anyway so salvagers and angel out for moldy and image. thats 2 more not dead cards if in hand as both arent dead without their combo pieces. the bigger impact though imo is the shift from a certain vulnerability to another one: before Torpor Orb was a problem, now it is Null Rod.

this improves the teferi matchup as you dodge the FCT splashhate torpor orb can be, while teferi also doesnt like to see the rod.

on the other hand tana&tymna now have 2 other hatecards against this.

about salvagers: its better with eldritch evolution which also is not in sigi's list. and hey i also was curious after such a long time to see if the primer is up and no its not but hey some changes. XD

April 4, 2018 4:17 p.m.

neolithic says... #11

@elfricThat makes sense. So it's meta related. Thanks for your response :)

Nevertheless I'm very curious what LabManiac_Sigi will add to the win con section :)

April 4, 2018 5:47 p.m.

Torpor Orb vs Null Rod/improving the Teferi matchup was not the reason why I made the change, especially considering that many Teferi decks don't run Torpor Orb anymore these days. The deck still wins through Null Rod with several other lines, so Muldrotha/LED being weak to Null Rod isn't much of a consideration. The reason behind the change was that Muldrotha gives more flexibility when it comes to which lines to take and how to take them. On top of that, Phantasmal Image and Muldrotha herself are just less dead draws than Auriok Salvagers and Angel of Glory's Rise.

April 5, 2018 10:37 a.m.

The wincon update was meant to be finished this week, but it'll be delayed due to me being sick.

April 5, 2018 10:45 a.m.

neolithic says... #14

Thanks for the explanation. I'm really curious about the details :) But get well again first! Gute Besserung :)

April 6, 2018 1:41 a.m.

hellspawned says... #15

What's the reason for running just Necromancy, and not one of the less mana intensive reanimator spells? Is it because it can get a hulk trigger off without the need for a sac outlet, or is there some other quirk with it that I'm missing?

April 6, 2018 8:24 p.m.

Yup, that's the whole reason.

April 6, 2018 8:58 p.m.

hurricane219 says... #17

So, I was hunting around for cards today and I came upon a card called Demonic Consultation. Would this card be good in this deck, if trying to win using Lab Man? Or, is it too narrow?

April 7, 2018 7:44 p.m.

I briefly considered Tainted Pact for a similar role, which can more easily be used as a cantrip of sorts, but ultimately decided against it. One of the big strengths of this deck is that you can switch between plans on the fly, and those cards kinda lock you into the lab maniac plan once you use them.

April 7, 2018 7:54 p.m.

lynden says... #19

Hi I am running the exact deck list minus Timetwister (replaced with Krosan Reclamation) and it's very fun to play.

Would like to ask your opinion, I am thinking of cutting Cavern of Souls for another card (maybe Stifle or Auriok Salvagers or Caustic caterpillar or Horizon Canopy). Is it a good idea? The land slot is already replaced by Cephalid Coliseum.

Is it worth it to run Cavern of Souls? It is good that it leads to uncounterable Hermit Druid or Lab Man but sometimes it does not tap for colored mana early game.

Also may I ask the reason for Reclamation Sage over Caustic Caterpillar?

Thanks in advance.

April 8, 2018 1:24 a.m.

Darksanctuary says... #20

I found cavern of souls only useful for grand abolisher. which then allowed me to combo off safely.

April 8, 2018 11:18 a.m.

Darksanctuary says... #21

I have to ask though, is cradle worth it in this deck?

April 8, 2018 11:20 a.m.

Cavern of Souls has been a great tool when it comes to fighting blue-heavy pods. If those are not as common in your meta, feel free to cut it.Rec Sage is in over Caustic Caterpillar because that card slot needs to beat Cursed Totem, which Caterpillar doesn't.Cradle is another card that's good if the game goes on for longer, but still ok when you're trying to go fast.

April 8, 2018 11:38 a.m.

xEth0sx says... #23

My fav edh brew. Thanks for all the work youve obviously put in on this one, Sigi! Ive played this deck extensively in the last few months. Rec sage makes sense. I brought in mana drain in my list just for a good all around counter. Gaeas cradle has been pretty marginal for me here. Usually tapping for 1-2. Im debating on slotting in more removal, possibly reality shift as it fits in our combo. Im seeing a lot of linvala locally which is a problem. Stax heavy meta here. While most Stax pieces arent an issue as its not like we are trying to storm off and not too mana hungry. Anyway, looking forward to trying the new win cons, cant wait for the update!

April 9, 2018 1:41 a.m.

lynden says... #24

Thank you Sigi for your feedback and opinion, much appreciated. Best wishes to you and the LabMan team. Hope to see more of this deck in action from your coming videos, when you have the time :)

April 9, 2018 10:59 a.m.

Could there be an argument for running both Muldrotha and auriok salvagers?

April 14, 2018 8:32 p.m.