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I made this deck with two main underlying elements in mind and hopefully they compliment each other in a beneficial manner. These elements are (1) counter spells and (2) creature removal. I've played quite a few matches so far with this deck, and it has only lost a select few...hopefully this trend continues lol.
Plea.se give me some feedback, good or bad. Thanks
I'm pretty sure Mana Leak was reprinted in M12, you can check on gatherer. I would remove Blistergrub and Vivisection . Blisterbug is pretty weak as far as creatures go and Vivisection doesn't do enough. Yea you're drawing 3 cards, but you're losing board position and it only combines well with Oculus and Darkslick Drake and you'd probably want to trade those with opponents creature instead of to your own spells. You could add Drowned Catacomb to help fix your mana, they're really cheap now that they've been printed in 3 core sets.
Well card:Jace's Ingenuity isn't being reprinted in M12. Maybe Ponder seeing that there are no 1 drops anyways. I would still remove Blistergrub and possibly Fuel for the Cause for more lands.
I think it might be detrimental to mix control with low-cost creatures, but that's a personal opinion of mine. By your record it has worked for you.
I would definitely include dual lands in your board. Especially with the double-symbol costs of several cards in your mainboard, you want to guarantee yourself as high a chance of having the right color mana as possible. Darkslick Shores and Drowned Catacomb are typically 4-ofs in almost any UB deck.
I personally run 2x Phyrexian Obliterator , 2x Abyssal Persecutor , 1x Consecrated Sphinx , and 2x Grave Titan with 4x Creeping Tar Pit on support. My deck is here: Kill Order.
If your creature setup works, then it works. However, UB's typical approach is to save early mana for control spells, then start playing more expensive creatures later on. That way you don't have to divide up your first 4 turns trying to decide to play a creature or leave mana open for an instant.
I applaud you for making a deck work on a budget man and that alone gets you a +1. But onto the deck. Right now Frost Titan 's are fairly cheap and you could get one or two for a pretty good price. Also card:Black Sun's Zenith is not too expensive and against most aggro match ups is better than card:Life's Finale which is amazing in a control match up, which you have main is all based on your meta where you play. Also consider some hand control in the form of Inquisition of Kozilek or even Distress . Jwar Isle Refuge is a good cheap way to fix mana if you want a cheap alternative to the dual lands. Also consider Tectonic Edge as it will help you against most strategies that are common right now. If you can't get those Spreading Seas is an amazing card that will help you out as well and it serves as a nice cantrip. Preordain or Ponder are a must in any control deck and are very easy to come by. I hope this helped man and good luck to you.
Some of the creature choices seem questionable. Belltower Sphinx , Quicksilver Gargantuan , and possibly Rune-Scarred Demon could all be better. Grave Titan is a solid performer in almost any UB board, and is currently dropping in value. Consecrated Sphinx is a great support card, but can be somewhat pricey. Wurmcoil Engine is another good one. Think in terms of what gives you the best utility and power in proportion to its casting cost. For example, the Belltower Sphinx is only a 2/5 for 5 mana, and the ability is only decent in very limited situations.
Rather than Divination , you might try Ponder /Preordain . Being able to control which card you draw as well as plan your topdeck two turns in advance is a powerful thing.
card:Black Sun's Zenith is a great control card, since UB doesn't have many other ways to board wipe.
Jace, Memory Adept is odd in this list. You don't really take advantage of mill with any of your other cards, and he's a rather expensive (both money and mana-wise) draw engine.
It might seem better to combo Jace with Surgical Extraction , but even that's kind of gambling, since their win-con may already be out.
I have found jace to be a great. Asset to the deck. It helps me draw into my counters, creature hate, and creatures themselves. I am working with the cards I have and I'm trying to use cards from sets that don't go further back then scars so that the deck in its entirety will be legal after September. Its been winning plenty despite its flaws. Thanks a lot for the advice ...much appreciated
over all really good! +1 for sure
i agree with your decision to go with Jace, Memory Adept over say Jace Beleren if only because he makes it so only you draw and they mill one as an added bonus.
If you could make some suggestions for my W/U/R control deck World Police it'd be great
Great deck, would only change Stoic Rebuttal for Remand which gives you a draw while slowing opponent and as you don't play artifacts it makes it less cost.
Remand is not in standard.
card:Tezzeret's Gambit is a lot better than divination. same card draw, plus proliferationand i would drop the oculus for Merfolk Looter s, they help you get through your deck a little quicker
You could drop 4x Stoic Rebuttal and add 2x Cancel since they're the same CMC and you only have 1 artifact, so you will never have metalcraft going on. That leaves you with 2 empty card slots, so you could add 1x Mana Leak and 1x Doom Blade .
Add more dual lands. 4x Drowned Catacomb and 4x Darkslick Shores are very typical in UB setups.
Jace, Memory Adept is not used to his full potential, since you have no way to abuse the 0and he's an expensive draw engine.
I would drop some of the smaller creatures in favor of larger, stronger ones like Grave Titan , Consecrated Sphinx , or Wurmcoil Engine .
Replace Divination with Ponder or Preordain .
Good, but the mana curve is too high. Maybe a dual-land or one of the ravnica two-color basic ones, with some land fetch? Or Dark Ritual
| Date added | 1 year |
| Last updated | 10 months |
| Legal formats | None |
| Sets | Magic 2013, Planechase 2012 Edition, Innistrad, 2012 Core Set , New Phyrexia, Mirrodin Besieged, Scars of Mirrodin, 2011 Core Set |
| Cards | 67 |
| Avg. CMC | 3.83 |
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Black/Blue Control Creature Hate
HornedFish says...
Nice deck. Some things I might suggest would be raising your land count. 20 is too low for if you want to be playing control as you want to hit a land drop every turn. I would up it to 24-25 to start. Also something that might be cool/fun to try with so many of your creatures having 'when this dies' , or 'sacrifice' triggered abilities would be Nim Deathmantle . It would slow your deck down, but you wouldn't be losing board position after sacrificing your creatures to get their effect. Also Mana Leak is a must, especially with your lack of color fixing. That and it's just plain better than other counters available.
July 27, 2011 9:47 a.m.