- 4x Boundless Realms
- 4x Caravan Vigil
- 4x Devastation Tide
- 4x Diabolic Revelation
- 4x Diabolic Tutor
- 4x Farseek
- 4x Increasing Ambition
- 4x Index
- 4x Memoricide
- 4x Ponder
- 4x Rampant Growth
- 4x Ranger's Path
- 4x Blunt the Assault
- 4x Clinging Mists
- 4x Essence Scatter
- 4x Fog
- 4x Mana Leak
- 4x Negate
- 4x Rewind
- 4x Surgical Extraction
- 4x Unsummon
- 4x Vapor Snag
- 4x Birds of Paradise
- 4x Borderland Ranger
- 4x Brutalizer Exarch
- 4x Dawntreader Elk
- 4x Fog Bank
- 4x Llanowar Elves
- 4x Rune-Scarred Demon
- 4x Solemn Simulacrum
- 4x Viridian Emissary
- 4x Void Stalker
July 12, 2012 3 p.m.
July 12, 2012 4:33 p.m.
Also, if you're going full-on troll here, and you're in green, what about the likes of Fog , Clinging Mists , Blunt the Assault , etc.? Also Fog Bank s! Frustrating, impractical, and keeps you alive a little longer! If only you could use them to shuffle your library some way!
Whoa, actually: Void Stalker ! Annoying, removes threats, AND requires a shuffle!
+1 for evil
July 15, 2012 5:20 p.m.
All the cards you mention definitely have a place here. In fact, the current build was thrown together rather quickly just to present the basic concept, but ultimately it will need to be updated for Standard in October and all of those cards will help do that. I do intend to up the total size to around 240 cards, so I'll throw those suggestions in now and worry about what to remove later.
Thanks for the tips!
July 15, 2012 6:08 p.m.
@iConcede Sure thing! Also, I'm all curious about this puzzle box of which you speak. That idea is clever, totally appropriate, and evil in the highest order.
July 15, 2012 6:46 p.m.
I need help with my Heartless BLAH and Abusing Geralf's Messenger deck.
July 16, 2012 8:48 p.m.
This is the best battle of wits deck ive seen on here so far. I know ur just trying to troll but this may actually do somewhat well. +1 for a nice build. Go check out my deck please!
July 16, 2012 11:48 p.m.
Im really curious tho... can u really shuffle it in ur hands if it is double sleeves? lol
July 17, 2012 5:08 a.m.
I hope to have more details on the puzzle box soon, and will post pics here when it's finished. I've got a friend working on it so the ball is in his court on that one.
I think most Battle of Wits decks have to split the deck into multiple piles and shuffle them separately, then shuffle them into each other (sounds dirty). The double-sleeving will certainly make it more difficult, but also more lol-worthy. My biggest concern is excess air in the sleeves, making it want to lean to one side while in a single stack. It might need a weight at the top for stabilization (perhaps a large, heavy spindown life counter), or maybe the deck box could somehow be designed to convert into a library stand. Either way, the looks you get from your opponent make it totally worth it.
July 17, 2012 5:26 p.m.
are u allow to do that? shuffling in different piles? I thot the rule is u must be able to shuffle the whole thing in ur hands? as for putting on table... use a large name card holder... or even those card dispenser in casino!!~~ lol
July 18, 2012 11:46 a.m.
The only thing better if you put a combination lock on the puzzle box, and act like you've forgotten the combination lol
July 18, 2012 5:12 p.m.
Haha, yeah. Another thought I had was to play different languages of each card and then forget what the card says, thus having to pull out your phone and look it up. So many ways to troll!
July 18, 2012 5:25 p.m.
Another idea is to "acidentally" drop your deck, and spend a long time picking each one up, then turning them up, then shuffling again.
July 18, 2012 6:24 p.m.
First off, did you make those sleeves yourself? if you didn't, where in the hell do I find them because they are awesome!!! As a fellow troll-face player, just in a different way ( see Birth of the Destroyer) I love this deck. While I prefer to play huge flashy combos, you just frustrate people in every way possible. keeping trolling, dude. Keep trolling. let me know how you do in an FNM tournament, man. +1
July 18, 2012 7:13 p.m.
For the different languages, act like your phone ran out of battery, then proceed to go around the event, looking for someone that speeks the language. This works best at grand prix.
July 19, 2012 12:21 a.m.
i second the video thing! Please post!
I also think you should aquire a needlessly huge life counter! I just thought, if you need one to be especially enormous, you can use a traditional soccer ball by writing 1-20 on the twenty white hexagons on the ball (yes there are exactly twenty of them... I checked). And, for more trolling, if they ask why you're bringing a soccer ball to the tournament you can simply explain that its a "truncated icosahedron" that has the perfect amount of white hexagon spaces! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_icosahedron)
You can even just pretend to be ignorant that the ball has anything to do with sports and continually claim that you "found a truncated icosahedron for a life counter." :D another thought: find an obscenely large pedestal, goblet, or bowl to keep the truncated icosahedron from rolling off the table and displaying it for all to see.... upon reflection this whole thing may be going too far...
July 19, 2012 8:18 p.m.
HAHA nice. I would totally do that thing with the soccer ball. And no, it hasn't gone too far. have you seen the average trollface comic involving magnets? they are outrageous! this thread has plenty of room to grow. Another idea is to get three more puzzle boxes, all alike. pretend you forgot which box the deck is in and spend huge amounts of time unlocking them to find out what box its in. ;-P
July 19, 2012 8:23 p.m.
Just when I think this deck has reached maximum troll potential, I come on here and see several new suggestions that are simply amazing. Looking for a translator for foreign cards is great, and that soccer ball idea is epic. Keep the ideas coming, I'm not sure how many we'll be able to include in a single FNM, but at the very least we could try mixing it up each time with a few different troll methods.
July 19, 2012 8:42 p.m.
And did you buy the troll sleeves, or did you make them yourself? I want some.
July 19, 2012 9:16 p.m.
The image was made by a friend, and we will be getting them custom printed in bulk for ourselves and anyone else who wants to troll. :)
July 19, 2012 10:18 p.m.
if it is at all possible, I want in on that too...
July 19, 2012 10:57 p.m.
Because of the number of times you have to shuffle your deck, you may want to consider this:
I guess it would be up to the individual judge to decide?
July 20, 2012 1:09 a.m.
I want in on the sleeves. Maybe set up a website so we all can buy them.
July 20, 2012 10:15 a.m.
I'll definitely make the sleeves available once we have them made, probably via eBay. As for the rulings on shuffling, I do need to look into that. I know way back in the day a Battle of Wits deck was doing well in the Pro Tours, so obviously it can be done. Worst-case scenario is that I'll have to ditch the double-sleeving idea, but with all the great trolling suggestions posted here I can always fall back on something else to make up the difference.
July 20, 2012 10:25 a.m.
@iConcede that sounds as if you're sideboarding in troll methods... ;)
July 20, 2012 10:31 a.m.
I think I'm going to cry tears of joy. Nevah have I seen something this beautiful... Where is MegustaGarruk?
July 21, 2012 6:29 p.m.
Haha Nicol Trolas... Problem?
Sorry just thought of it.
July 21, 2012 6:48 p.m.
don't forget to record a video and upload to youtube.
we all waiting to see the man who get DQ by flipping the table :)
July 23, 2012 12:04 a.m.
HAHA! trolljace. where can I get those card protectors?? +1 from me :)
July 23, 2012 2:19 p.m.
I don't think you should double-sleeve, but I like the soccer ball idea.
July 24, 2012 8:31 p.m.
i love this deck its a lot of fun definitely worth a +1, i would recommend adding card:Alchemist's Refuge its give the battle of wits an extra hint of surprise when you drop it on the end of there turn for a quick win
July 26, 2012 8 p.m.
I think this deck needs more attention, so you are getting a feature as soon as I get tokens. +1
July 28, 2012 8:23 a.m.
another thing you should do is have every other card upside down. then open your box and get all upset and then turn each card right side up. :-P
July 28, 2012 4:21 p.m.
You can also use your voice to annoy your opponent. Try a game using an aussie accent, or act like a boxing announcer in the ring: (and there's the knock out of the Primeval Titan !)
July 28, 2012 5 p.m.
Liliana of the Dark Realms if you have some put them in just so you waste time finding a swamp every turn even if you know you have them all out.
July 30, 2012 1:41 p.m.
plus you could always debate which art of swamp you want to find
July 30, 2012 1:43 p.m.
A way you could possibly* (Not sure if it would actually work) pretend your wrist was sprained or you had some how injured one of your hands, just to slow the shuffling proccess.
August 1, 2012 6:11 p.m.
just had an idea, you could also make thrun, the last troll sleeves too
August 6, 2012 2:48 p.m.
Have this as your ringtone on your cell phone!
Also, find some sort of camera-recording pen to put in your breast pocket when playing, just to capture your opponents' faces.
August 12, 2012 6:39 p.m.
I just want to say sir, you are my hero haha, here I thought my control deck was trolling enough just because I made a guy flip the table at the last FNM I was at just due to killing him by Redirect ing his Bonfire of the Damned back at him to wipe his board then ended it the turn after, this was after countering the last 7 spells he had tried to play and he was... ahem... "forcefully removed'' from the store hahaha, but this really takes the cake and as many many people have said +1 from me and I would love to get in on those sleeves.
Please know, you are seriously a troll god, and I tip my hat to you sir.
August 14, 2012 1:26 a.m.
Turn one Birds. Opponent: "Oh, it's a wolf run or R/G aggro.*Looks at library." "Oh..."
August 15, 2012 2:19 a.m.
I think that probably Redirect would fit nicely with the theme. Also maindeck Naturalize screws people over too
August 21, 2012 2:33 p.m.
August 27, 2012 2:52 a.m.
what the fuck? are you the guy who made me flip over the table last friday
September 10, 2012 6:04 p.m.
For a ridiculously unwieldy life counter I recommend a D-100 and when your opponent asks why you need such a huge life counter just say, "Just in Case"
I think I may have to try this in Standard. I'm a new/old player(been out of the game for over 10 years) but in my prime I Played a lot of Land/Hand destruction decks and counter decks for the sole reason of annoying my enemies to death.
I applaud your efforts in this.
September 10, 2012 6:07 p.m.
Will you be selling those deck boxes too?! Please link me to where I can buy the deck boxes and sleeves when they are available. Love the deck btw!! XD lololol +1
September 20, 2012 11:51 p.m.
splash white for Lingering Souls , to help stall Terminus a board wipe that also refuels your library Avacyn, Angel of Hope , (maybe, would just be funny to pop this out and have an enormous deck, indestructible stuff and the best sleeves/deck box) some life gain and the biggest troll of all: card:Archangel's Light refuels your library and nets you a lot of life
September 21, 2012 3:08 p.m.
id definitely commision you for some trolljace sleeves
September 24, 2012 7:10 p.m.
Put me down for some of those sleeves as well, if they are reasonably priced I would order 300 or so!
September 24, 2012 7:53 p.m.
I would also order sleeves, like maybe 250 or so. Forgot to mention it in a previous post.
September 25, 2012 4:12 p.m.
you should do a series of sleeves based off these faces, such as pokerjace, ragejace and some of the others i can't think of right now XD
October 3, 2012 9:08 p.m.
Updating list for current standard? A lot of cards have rotated out.
October 10, 2012 9:15 p.m.
I'll be getting to an update for the actual deck list once I have some time. Between moving, starting a new job, travelling to Europe, etc. it hasn't been easy to find the time. As for the custom sleeves, it seems the few places that do custom jobs require massive (and I do mean MASSIVE) quantities to be ordered, and on top of that won't do copyrighted artwork (which most of this would be). I'll keep looking though.
October 10, 2012 11:27 p.m.
This deck isn't standard, also you can't make "custome sleeves".
October 11, 2012 9:39 p.m.
yes you can. just usually costs a pretty penny and a mass order
October 16, 2012 3:20 p.m.
Suggestions: Seek the Horizon , Bitterheart Witch (will NEVER die), Curse of Misfortunes (maybe just one to get wih the witch), Gatecreeper Vine (with one-of gates to "make mana easier"), Liliana of the Dark Realms (for getting your one-of shocklands), Mwonvuli Beast Tracker (just more search), card:Memory's Journey (to make sure you get the important spells again). Good luck with the deck!
October 16, 2012 4:34 p.m.
Hey, so I'm pretty new to magic.I wanna try this deck out (Cockatrice) and just want to make sure I understand how to play it.I see the basic idea is getting as much mana out as possible, and countering as many things as possible, but are the only 'ace' ways of winning the Door to Nothingness and Battle of Wits ? Or is there something I'm missing?
October 27, 2012 12:39 a.m.
This deck is meant to torture people with excessive shuffle effects. Not too great for cockitrice.
October 27, 2012 5:48 p.m.
October 27, 2012 7:11 p.m.
Hypersonic Dragon s. Playing them sorceries as instants just gets perfectly more annoying.
November 3, 2012 3:33 p.m.
This deck NEEDS Myr Mindservant . Even its flavor text is annoying! +1
November 12, 2012 12:58 p.m.
I proxied this deck in a 3-way, best two out of three.
I won both games in a row with Battle of Wits.
I love you.
November 26, 2012 1:51 a.m.
Playing the deck made me feel like there needed to be board sweepers. If you're bringing it into standard then stuff like Supreme Verdict and maybe Cyclonic Rift should be included to give a more lasting "no" to the pesky aggro decks. +1
January 7, 2013 6:19 p.m.
Paint the front of your sleeves and opaque black, so that you have to take it out of the sleeve to read it when you draw it, and each and every time your opponent requests to see what's on your field, and obviously you can't play without the sleeves as this would damage the cards, so they get to stay on, and your opponent gets annoyed.
June 16, 2013 9:52 a.m.
The biggest troll,the mime
(if u know what im talking about, plz make a comment with the mime in there)
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