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Assassin's Creed

Commander / EDH



"Nothing is true, everything is permitted"



Radiocade says... #1

Solid premise. Seems like you've got a lot of good synergy going on here. I'd actually suggest tossing in a Trepanation Blade over the Drake-skull Cameo.

October 23, 2012 4:45 a.m.

DanteBeleren says... #2

I'll agree with above but would like to add that since you have islands/swamps you could up the island count since your mana base kinda needs. Not sayin' you have to just a thought.

October 23, 2012 5:41 a.m.

Radiocade says... #3

I tend to keep my mana count closer to 40 or 45 in EDH, myself, but this seems like a relatively good balance to me.

October 23, 2012 5:47 a.m.

DanteBeleren says... #4

Since I like this deck I wanted to make it myself in my own little way. If you don't mind taking a look... what do you think?


October 24, 2012 9 p.m.

malmagora says... #5

Thanck you! I'll like your deck! Circu, Dimir Lobotomist is a good commander for a mill-deck! Use Glimpse the Unthinkable and remove Leyline of the Void . You need the opponent's graveyard for the abilityes of Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni and Dimir Doppelganger ! ;-)

October 25, 2012 10:53 a.m.

Have you considered Quietus Spike ? Its especially nasty with stalker.

October 30, 2012 6:06 p.m.

hazzaismyname says... #7

Leyline of the void is there for eldrazi or anything of the like.

October 30, 2012 6:14 p.m.

malmagora says... #8

Thanck! I didn't thought about Quietus Spike but is a great card!!! Can I remove to put in it?

October 31, 2012 3:15 p.m.

Raphiezar says... #9

Just so you know, Training Grounds only affects creatures in play, so your ninjitsu cost will not be reduced. You should probably take it out of your deck.

November 2, 2012 11:43 p.m.

malmagora says... #10

Damn! Are you sure?

November 3, 2012 10:34 a.m.

Raphiezar says... #11

Yeah, I checked the Gatherer to be sure, because I thought it'd be cool if it worked, but it doesn't unfortunately.

November 5, 2012 7:42 p.m.

malmagora says... #12

I change! Thanck you!!!

November 7, 2012 5:49 p.m.

tzeenkh says... #13

Nice looking deck. There's a solid idea about this deck. Have you thought about adding Consecrated Sphinx ? It's really nasty card in EDH because of the horrible amount of card drawing, and if Sphinx is more than 1 turn in play you have won already. How about Diabolic Tutor too? Other way this decks looks fun to play with or against, keep it up.

November 10, 2012 8:32 a.m.

malmagora says... #14

Consecrated Sphinx is one of my favorite card but I'll put in in every deck with blue color! Some tutor is a good idea, but, can I remove some cards? Help!

November 11, 2012 6:43 a.m.

Taiyouai says... #15

Seems like a great magic take on one of my favorite games +1 from me. Decent deck, I don't play EDH so I can't give any advice but from what I've seen it looks pretty solid.

December 1, 2012 1:35 p.m.

lendrick says... #16

I see that your deck buy at least 2 cards per turn, in this case why not a free tutor? Archmage Ascension . What makes this the better tutor?, any time you would buy a card (by effects) they count too.(2 draws per turn means 2 cards of your choice per turn)

other cards (but I don't think that's a extremely necessary card) is Nightscape Familiar or any one of these: Jet Medallion , Sapphire Medallion , Stormscape Familiar .

but how I mentioned previously, I don't think that is a extremely necessary card

there are 3 cards that you can change...

I don't see a good use of Bribery (because your deck has others purposes)

Reins of Power is too dangerous... and just fit in some cases.

Hatred I just don't like this card xP (but is a good card)

that's my oppinion, and sorry my lame english.

December 1, 2012 3:39 p.m.

themlsna says... #17

Sygg, River Cutthroat , or Wydwen, the Biting Gale seem like good fits in this deck. I used to run Vela as my commander, but switched to Wydwen, just because I wanted a commander that I could have hit the field earlier. (I really want a way to make Vela work, instead, because her triggered ability is great.)

December 1, 2012 4:16 p.m.

malmagora says... #18

Thanck you!At first time I thought about the familiar and the Medallion, but that cards isn't necessary, but they are good cards!Sygg, River Cutthroat is a good card, but is not necessary. I need mass effect! Can you help me?

December 3, 2012 5:19 p.m.

ninnyz says... #19

if your looking for really good unblockable abilitys, i love the enchantment Dauthi Embrace

February 11, 2013 2:07 p.m.

malmagora says... #20

I love Dauthi Embrace !!! When exit Tempest block, I did a Soltari's deck!!! But the problem is that Dauthi Embrace need an activation cost with two black mana and this is a problem, beacuse I need mana for ninja's ability...

February 11, 2013 6:11 p.m.

ninnyz says... #21

Well I see you have urbog. Did you know that if you have a Crypt Ghast any land you tap for any color always adds one black mana due to you tapping a "swamp" for mana

February 11, 2013 9:48 p.m.

malmagora says... #22

I can't play Crypt Ghast because it has Extort, that contain black/WHITE mana simbol. ..

February 12, 2013 9:35 a.m.

malmagora says... #23

I want to change Reins of Power with Equilibrium . Someone can help me? I want to remove Reins of Power . Some suggestion?

February 12, 2013 9:38 a.m.

meecht says... #24

Extort has W/B in its REMINDER text, which does NOT contribute to a cards color identity.

Crypt Ghast would be allowed in your deck.

February 12, 2013 9:47 a.m.

malmagora says... #25

Are you sure? I can play cards with exort in all black OR wihite decks and not only in black AND white deck? That is to sat that i can use the extort ability?

February 12, 2013 3:08 p.m.

meecht says... #26

The Commander/EDH Rules (under Deck Construction) state that a card's reminder text is not included in its color identity.

February 12, 2013 3:21 p.m.

malmagora says... #27

Thanck!!! Do you thinck that is good to play Crypt Ghast in this deck?

February 12, 2013 3:26 p.m.

meecht says... #28

Crypt Ghast would be fine in your deck. The more mana you have, the more stuff you can do. Keep in mind, though, that he won't be used to his fullest potential unless Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is on the field.

I think Scroll Thief and Stealer of Secrets are a little weak for EDH, though. Unless you can play them during the first few turns, they'll rarely make it through your opponent's defenses. If you want card draw, try card:Blue Sun's Zenith. It will work well with Crypt Ghast .

Another thing to consider is your general's ability. It triggers when a creature leaves the battlefield, but you don't have a lot of ways to bounce your creatures to take advantage of the ability.

You could include creatures that can bounce themselves like Lantern Spirit , Fleeting Image , Darting Merfolk , Escape Artist , Ephemeron , Mirozel , and Palinchron . There's also card:Conjurer's Closet that can flicker a single creature, and Deadeye Navigator that can soulbond to a creature to flicker it. Navigator + Palinchron creates an infinite mana combo, too.

Ghostly Flicker allows you to bounce lands, creatures, and/or artifacts. Lands and artifacts ETB untapped, so you'll be able to tap them again.

Another creature to consider is Phyrexian Metamorph to copy any creature or artifact that's on the field. It also acts as a way to remove your opponent's general by forcing the Legendary Rule, which can also be done with Clone .

Instead of Mistvein Borderpost , I would recommend Chromatic Lantern or Coalition Relic . It'd be best to find a way to squeeze in both, but either will be fine, too.

From Gatecrash, there's also Deathcult Rogue and Dimir Keyrune that are unblockable. The keyrune will even dodge some board wipes. Don't forget to take a look at some of the Cipher cards, too. You might want to include some, like Voidwalk or Stolen Identity .

In case you haven't seen it yet, here is a list that Epochalyptik made of EDH staples List of EDH Staples and Power Cards. You don't have to fill your deck with everything listed, but it could give you some more ideas on things you may want to include.

February 12, 2013 4:27 p.m.

ninnyz says... #29

With any kind of mana ramping or doubling you can make alot of use out of Exsanguinate not to mention Blood Artist and Falkenrath Noble

February 12, 2013 6:51 p.m.

ninnyz says... #30

Also since this deck is heavy black. Liliana of the Dark Realms I would also consider dropping some of your comes into play tapped dual lands, running two colors in Edh I have learned that Terrain Generator can be more helpful. Especially at your opponents end phase

February 12, 2013 6:56 p.m.

malmagora says... #31

Thanck you to everyone!!!The best use of Liliana of the Dark Realms is in a mono black, in my deck it need Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth .Scroll Thief and Stealer of Secrets are a good choice with Vela the Night-Clad because, in my play group, only two people play a deck with strong blue creatures and I have a lot of card that make creature unblockable but is probably that I change those card for Darting Merfolk and Equilibrium .in future.I'll sure change: Reins of Power with Stolen Identity and Mistvein Borderpost with Chromatic Lantern

February 12, 2013 7:32 p.m.

I would recommend Creeping Tar Pit and card:Rogue's Passage. also maybe Shriekmaw , doubles as either creature with fear or removal.

February 19, 2013 5:07 p.m.

malmagora says... #33

Creeping Tar Pit and card:Rogue's Passage are two good cards, but they need mana to activate the ability. If I havn't mana, I can't use ninjutsu...I have to thinck about this cards. Thanck you for the good suggestion! :-)

February 20, 2013 3:07 a.m.

ninnyz says... #34

If you use urbog in combo with Filth things get good real fast

February 20, 2013 6:10 p.m.

malmagora says... #35

Filth is a good card with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth but I can't sacrifice or destroy it...

February 22, 2013 10:37 a.m.

malmagora says... #36

Filth is a good card with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth but I can't sacrifice or destroy it...

February 22, 2013 10:38 a.m.

meecht says... #37

In an EDH game, you don't really have to worry about killing your own creatures because somebody will usually wrath the field at some point. Just getting it on the field and constantly swinging it at people will encourage somebody to kill it.

February 22, 2013 11:09 a.m.

malmagora says... #38

I don't want to rely on the other players action. For example, with white decks that remove cards, like: Swords to Plowshares or Final Judgment (In my play group, that cards are common to be played) or with blue deck with card like Boomerang or Cyclonic Rift is usefull... :-(

February 22, 2013 8:59 p.m.

metalevolence says... #39

I think you should switch your commander to Sygg, River Cutthroat.

February 27, 2013 10:31 a.m.

malmagora says... #40

In this deck, Sygg, River Cutthroat is usefull like a commander, )but it is a very good card) becuse I need that the cretures became unblokable. Vela the Night-Clad may do this!

March 8, 2013 9:45 a.m.

metalevolence says... #41

Almost all the creatures you're playing already have their own abilities that make them difficult to block.

March 8, 2013 11:58 a.m.

malmagora says... #42

The ninjas need to be unblockable...

March 10, 2013 10:36 a.m.

Octrate says... #43

I highly suggest Rite of Replication. When kicked on Vela the Night-Clad, you'll deal 36 damage to each opponent. Plus, it is a good utility card.

March 19, 2013 12:12 p.m.

malmagora says... #44

Vela the Night-Clad is legendary, I can't play Rite of Replication on it...

March 21, 2013 2:53 p.m.

Octrate says... #45

but when six of them leave play from the rule doing six damage... They'll do 36 damage to all your opponents for 9 mana.

March 21, 2013 3:12 p.m.

ninnyz says... #46

its because the 5 copies of Vela the Night-Clad all hit the field at the same time. once rite of replication resolves the Legendary rule checks the field, notices the 6 Vela's then removes each copy simultaneously triggering the effect 6 times over 6 stacks.

March 21, 2013 8:33 p.m.

ninnyz says... #47

but i would rather not use Rite of Replication for this effect. you can find a better creature to replicate 5x than your general. the hardest thing i had when i played Vela was mana accel. i used Mana Vault or other colorless producers to pull ahead.

March 21, 2013 8:40 p.m.

malmagora says... #48

I understand! It's a good idea!!! Thanck you!!!! It is 36 commander's damage?!

March 22, 2013 4:23 a.m.

Octrate says... #49

If only. Commander damage is only combat damage. Still, it usually kills everyone With just normal damage by the end of the game.

March 22, 2013 7:10 a.m.

FoxOn36 says... #50

I would still consider Creeping Tar Pit and Dimir Keyrune for their wrath-dodging powers. They tap for mana if you don't want to animate them anyway. 2-3 mana isn't that taxing later in the game.

Echoing the Rite of Replication idea. It's a finisher if you need it, and you can still cast it on other creatures if you need to.

Phyrexian Metamorph and possibly Phantasmal Image should be in here. They kill opponent's commanders, and can double up your unblockables, what not to love?

Wonder and Filth are still worth considering since they have evasion themselves.

Snuff Out is an interesting kill-spell that doesn't require you to pay mana, if you don't mind the 4 life...

If you want your own creatures to leave the battlefield regularly, consider Crystal Shard and Cloudstone Curio to bounce any ninjitsu cards back to your hand for more ninjitsu fun.

March 24, 2013 8:55 a.m.

malmagora says... #51

It is a good idea! Thanck you!For Dimir Keyrune I'll remove Drake-Skull Cameo ! For Rite of Replication what can I'll remove? I don't now what can I'll remove to make the change...

March 24, 2013 9:15 a.m.

toasty1437 says... #52

have you tried Thada Adel, Acquisitor ? steal people's mana rocks or cool utility artifacts.

March 25, 2013 6:02 a.m.

malmagora says... #53

I'll remove Thada Adel, Acquisitor because in my play group, only another player play a lot of artifact and I have some proplem because I need mana to cast artifact...

March 25, 2013 8:47 a.m.

zandl says... #54

Evacuation , Devastation Tide , Drowned Catacomb ?

Drake-Skull Cameo and Chromatic Lantern seem a bit redundant. You shouldn't need that level of mana-fixing. If ramp is what you're after, I would almost say Pristine Talisman is better than those two. If you're looking for a stricty-better replacement, though, Darksteel Ingot 's got your back.

March 29, 2013 4:28 a.m.

malmagora says... #55

I forgot Drowned Catacomb and to remove Drake-Skull Cameo for Dimir Keyrune !

March 30, 2013 9:05 p.m.

eprovince says... #56

Surprised no one noticed, Hunted Phantasm can't be in this deck because it makes something Red. It breaks the EDH color typing rules. If you need some ideas here is my Vela deck Vela EDH Ninja.

April 19, 2014 7:13 p.m.

zandl says... #57

Hunted Phantasm 's color identity is blue and only blue. Color identity only checks for colored mana symbols, not words.

If that was the case, Kor Firewalker 's color identity would be both White and Red, which it obviously is not.

April 19, 2014 8:13 p.m.

AmosMoses says... #58

Lu Xun, Scholar General seems an upgrade over Scroll Thief . The one blue extra is surely worth the "unblockable", especially as you have a lot of three drops already. Unless there is a significant amount of Horsemanship in your playgroup.

May 20, 2014 2:44 a.m.

MrCerberus12 says... #59

I know this comment is 3 years late but i happened to be looking for ninjutsu themed edh decks for ideas and i saw the comment abount crypt ghast. He is legal in deck that don't run white since that is part of the reminder text, not the ability itself.

March 20, 2015 12:41 a.m.

you should add Tricks of the Trade a good buff card and makes the creature unblockable. and also add Rogue's Passage by paying 4 and tapping it a creature of your choice is unblockable. and a Mystic of the Hidden Way is a good surprise card to throw down early on as an ambush card.

October 15, 2016 3:44 a.m.

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