- 4x Choked Estuary
- 3x Concealed Courtyard
- 2x Desert of the Mindful
- 4x Fetid Pools
- 3x Ipnu Rivulet
- 4x Island
- 3x Port Town
- 2x Swamp
i love the use of Fraying Sanity and the new deserts. very nice deck. +1
July 9, 2017 3:40 p.m.
LegitQuickness simply because i really only need 2 in here because of fraying sanity. In the small chance i cast 2 in a game, i will most likely have won already because of all the other mill presence. but anyway, what do you think i should take out for another Startled Awake Flip?
July 9, 2017 6:09 p.m.
At first I was confused as to your lack of mill gas but I can see what you're doing here now. Fraying Sanity is pretty scary in it's nondiscrimination of how a card got to the graveyard. I notice your sideboard is missing cards to remove big threats... something like Memory could be really rough for you.
Have you considered Extraction cards like Lost Legacy?
July 9, 2017 10:12 p.m.
July 10, 2017 3:48 a.m.
July 10, 2017 10:14 a.m.
TMBRLZ thanks for your help, any other tips you have would be welcome. playtest if you'd like and if you want to leave a +1 that'd be welcome too
July 10, 2017 10:25 a.m.
For targeted graveyard hate at instant speed. Crook of Condemnation
July 11, 2017 8:23 a.m.
Qolorful excellent suggestion, especially with all of the play embalm and eternalize are going to get. Thank you for that, i have put it in my sideboard accordingly
July 11, 2017 11:14 a.m.
I play tested this deck for a bit and I think that it can be beaten by a creature heavy deck for sure, i think that moving Fatal Push into the main-board would definitely help out and make this a stronger deck.
July 11, 2017 2:09 p.m.
Brannan I agree with you, what do you suggest I swap for fatal push?
July 11, 2017 2:11 p.m.
July 11, 2017 7:53 p.m.
Brannan done and done. Thanks for that. It lowered my CMC a lot. So that helps
July 12, 2017 9:15 a.m.
They need to reprint our main man Hedron Crab for standard
July 12, 2017 1:02 p.m.
capuzzi you're right. That'd be dope. Thanks for commenting! Feel free to leave a +1!
July 12, 2017 5:48 p.m.
yea no problem. Never Forget is good but kinda situational. overall a strong deck, I expect to see it hit mainstream
July 12, 2017 7:17 p.m.
Do you find Transgress to be better than Lay Bare the Heart? I totally get wanting to nail something with the exile effect, but Lay Bare is another way to put things into the graveyard? I almost think that I would like to see that as a 2/2 split between the main and the sideboard. Also I love Dovin Baan in this list. He seems like straight gas.
July 13, 2017 5:54 p.m.
With a lot of graveyard shenanigans going on in my meta right now NinjaShank56 i feel that Transgress the Mind is the safest way to go. Lay Bare the Heart gives you 2 hoops to jump through and sends it to the graveyard where something can be embalmed or eternalized. I like your thinking though. I appreciate the up vote and the compliments about Dovin Baan, he seems woefully underutilized to me, he's an excellent control planeswalker
July 13, 2017 6:01 p.m.
That seems very reasonable with the Lay Bare the Hearts, and I somewhat guessed that that would be the reasoning for it. I've been really high on Dovin Baan since he released, I just haven't found a good place to put him yet. I may build this, or something close to it though. I'm really excited to try to do mill, it should be fun!
July 13, 2017 6:19 p.m.
+1 from me, i really want to playtest this sometime, wish i had a pc :(
July 13, 2017 6:19 p.m.
NinjaShank56 feel free to use this as a template man! If you have any questions or concerns, just ask
BestBuds thanks for the +1!! if you ever get to playtest this, i promise you'll have a ton of fun
July 13, 2017 6:26 p.m.
Question. Do you think dovin baan is really worth splashing white? Seems like it will decrease consistency for what many would say is by no means an overwhelming planeswalker. You might consider adding something like Hour of Revelation or Fumigate if you are going to run white?
July 13, 2017 9:31 p.m.
Qolorful Baan's ability to deactivate certain abilities makes him quite useful. not to mention if I'm able to get his final ability off. I was thinking about maybe sideboarding fumigate and Authority of the Consuls for more white
July 14, 2017 4:47 a.m.
I would say get rid of Baan and maybe add Ob Nixilis Reignited instead because he is very similar to Jace in letting you draw cards and he can destroy a creature, but also his emblem is very good. That way you can sure up the mana base a bit.
July 14, 2017 10:44 a.m.
Zooby9 that could be a good idea, but as of right now I don't have any issues with the mana base
July 14, 2017 11:41 a.m.
Vayder84 this is a standard deck my dude, you're in the wrong place lol. But thank you for the upvote
July 14, 2017 9:08 p.m.
Pull jace for open the armory it will allow you to fetch fraying sanity find something else to cut for the other two copy's. It will significantly speed up your plan
July 15, 2017 10:43 a.m.
Nah Anubis220 Jace fits the deck well, and I'm not really a fan
July 15, 2017 10:50 a.m.
You kinda need more deserts. The rivulet is under powered without its friends.
July 15, 2017 6:53 p.m.
The discard strategy could use at least 1 more Startled Awake.
July 16, 2017 4:58 a.m.
Have you considered using any red in the build before? I think for how deck archetypes are shaping up it has more quick answers for decks than you might think.
July 16, 2017 9:16 a.m.
July 16, 2017 9:25 a.m.
July 16, 2017 9:51 a.m.
July 16, 2017 8:45 p.m.
July 17, 2017 5:33 a.m.
Just wanted to say this is a fresh and fun mill deck that I've been enjoying. I've been running some mono-blue and Dimir/Azorius but this is the first Esper variant I've tried. Thanks for sharing it. :)
July 18, 2017 2:14 p.m.
Thanks for the kind words! wattyfathom Glad you liked the deck and stay tuned as i make updates as i need them
July 18, 2017 3 p.m.
I actually just put together my mill deck now that I have the cards. I ended up deciding to make it grixis. I think I will do some testing in esper. I think that fumigate in particular will prove to be useful, as well as access to anguished unmaking and dec in stone. Granted my build is more for the long haul.
July 18, 2017 4:35 p.m.
A few questions:
Is there a reason to play cancel if you can have 4 disallow?
Winds of Rebuke can bounce and mill you AND opponent to feed your own graveyard.
July 21, 2017 6:24 a.m.
Mannu_1978 I answered these types of questions above
July 21, 2017 6:28 a.m.
Mannu_1978 Lay Bare the Heart isn't that great, i like Transgress the Mind because it allows me to permanently get rid of any possible bomb in my opponents hand early on in the game, especially if its a creature with graveyard presence (embalm, eternalize). Mind Rot is a solid card, but i am not in need of it at the moment. I have Consign. I will look into Winds of Rebuke but I've never been fond of self-mill, but it is nice.
July 21, 2017 7:28 a.m.
I'd try using one or two Curious Homunculus Flip for the "easy" 3/4 and the tiny bit of ramp if you need it. Also, Doomfall is bad in my opinion in this deck, I'd replace it with 2 more Never. I also wouldn't use Dispossess, as artifact decks aren't very strong right now (Other than monument but you can easily mill those out)
July 23, 2017 10:31 a.m.
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