Angels Brought The Apocalypse

Commander / EDH* epartica

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More mana or more creature —March 11, 2019

Should I exchange Lumbering Battlement for Pristine Talisman or even helm of host for Pristine Talisman. OR even Moonsliver Spear for Pristine Talisman. Kinda want to leave it out. Worst case I just got down to 37 lands.

epartica says... #1

heyzeus_ I now see your point on running Smothering Tithe and actually my friend just gave me Armageddon !

March 6, 2019 3:44 a.m.

heyzeus_ says... #2

Haha you've got a good friend! I'm glad you've got support for using all of white's tools instead of shying away from land destruction.

If you're still looking to make some changes, I'd really recommend against Archangel's Light . The shuffling your graveyard is pretty irrelevant in commander, especially since you don't have tutors - it's not likely that you'll get your stuff back, and it might not even be as good as what you would have drawn otherwise. So really it's 8 mana to gain some life, which is not good. If someone hits you with a 6/6, and you gain 10 life, they can still hit you with a 6/6 again next turn. On the other hand, if you play an 8 mana angel instead (or some other big bomb), it not only deters future attacks - kind of like gaining life by not getting hit - but it deals damage that can actually advance you to winning the game. Above all else, you should swap out that card.

I'll list out some other cards I'd swap out, and give reasoning for each. Lumbering Battlement is awesome in that it gets huge quickly, but the real reason it's good is because it lets you reuse ETB triggers. Thing is, you only have 4 creatures with ETB triggers, so basically you're trading a creature for +2/+2 on a creature. Considering most of your creatures are bigger than 2/2s, that seems like a bad trade to me. Next, consider taking out Helm of the Host . Yes, the top end is awesome, but it is a 9 mana investment before you get a single copy of a creature. It's not really worth it unless you can reliably get it to stick on a creature, and at least in the commander games I've played, I've literally never seen that happen. Likewise, I suspect Moonsilver Spear isn't that good but it's really flavorful so I'd keep it personally. Finally, I bet Angelheart Vial will disappoint you a lot - I would be very surprised if you got more than one or two activations out of it in a game, and 9 mana to draw two cards and gain 4 life is a pretty abysmal rate.

Looking in your sideboard, you've got good choices. Literally every one I'd run over the cards I just mentioned, but if I were you I'd slide in Akroma, Angel of Wrath , Pristine Talisman , and Sigil of the New Dawn . And I'd like to again point you at Mana Tithe . I promise you will get use out of it, and I promise it will be awesome when you do.

Hope that helps, it's been cool watching your updates!

March 7, 2019 2:33 a.m.