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Angels blade

Iv4ldy

Standard

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Angels, Any advice is welcome! and as I get cards I have ordered I will update deck.I'm not sure if I have a specific goal in mind for this deck besides competitive. I have some exalted and such. I built this deck around Gisela, Blade of Goldnight and Moonsilver Spear.

Updates

update — Nov. 4, 2012

Lots of card changing last couple weeks

sample101 says...

#1

Ditch 3 Serra Angel for 3 Serra Avenger .

Call To Serve is crappy, especially when everything attacking already has flying.

Moar Silverblade Paladin would be useful if you really want to keep pushing for the exalted theme. If it were me, I'd pretty much ditch exalted entirely in favor of.... something more useful.

Gisela and avacyn are much too expensive for your current deck list. If you can squeeze in any mana ramp, then do so.

Also, sideboard Erase if you really have to, and Oblivion Ring +1 instead.

Righteous Blow kind of sucks too, as does Seraph of Dawn

September 28, 2012 1:17 a.m.

CalciferDK says...

#2

I agree with sample101: up the Serra Avenger and Silverblade Paladin

Cut, Angelic Wall , Righteous Blow , Seraph of Dawn , Call To Serve and Bladed Bracers

for ramp i suggest Gilded Lotus

Angel of Jubilation would be goodAven Squire and Knight of Glory could also help your exalted theme

if you are willing to add some red Faithless Looting , Dangerous Wager or Wild Guess combined with Defy Death could be fun.. and would add some needed draw to your deck.

September 28, 2012 9:12 a.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#3

How does this look? I've done most of what ya'll suggested, I'll just need to get the cards then. For exalted if I get a couple strong angels out on the field it won't be as useful, but while I'm building them up is when It'll be great (I think).

October 1, 2012 1:53 p.m.

CalciferDK says...

#4

You need to think on what you want to do in turn 1, turn 2 etc..

Fx turn 3 you ideally want to cast your silverblade palladin and not your guardians of akrasa so the guardians become sortof obsolete in the deck..

The red draw cards i mentioned were an idea for getting your big angels into the graveyard early. And then reanimating them with defy death afterwards.. Without a way for you to get them cheated into play the defy death card becomes rather limited.. And should probably be left out

October 1, 2012 2:18 p.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#5

That is a great idea. I personally am not use to playing discard cards cause i'm bad at dropping, but with that it makes them ideal. The guardians go so I can put in some of the discard/draw cards?

October 1, 2012 2:32 p.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#6

That is a great idea. I personally am not use to playing discard cards cause i'm bad at dropping, but with that it makes them ideal. The guardians go so I can put in some of the discard/draw cards?

October 1, 2012 2:33 p.m.

masterwu says...

#7

Angel of Serenity is amazing. You should consider adding 2 in.

October 2, 2012 10:24 p.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#8

That is! What would you suggest taking out? I'm also planning on putting in some discard/draw cards.

October 2, 2012 10:38 p.m.

sample101 says...

#9

You could do without Guardians of Akrasa .

October 6, 2012 8:12 p.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#10

Is there any cheap creature kill y'all would suggest?

October 11, 2012 6:04 p.m.

CalciferDK says...

#11

white removal seems a bit short at the time.. you Rebuke seems a fair choice unless you are going more into red.

I'll still say that your deck needs some more focus..I would still cut all Angelic Benediction , Curse of Exhaustion , Ring of Thune and Guardians of Akrasa .Then go for some more Knight of Glory or other usefull 1 or 2 drop creatures.

October 19, 2012 8:27 a.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#12

I cut the Angelic Benediction , Ring of Thune I left one in simply because I favor it but should get rid of it. Kinda like a guilty pleasure. Curse of Exhaustion do you think really is useless? I haven't been able to play recently so I'm not sure of the current metagame. Guardians of Akrasa is just place sitting until I can find more 1 or 2 drop creatures. And I am thinking about putting some more red in my deck I'm just not sure about balance.

October 22, 2012 10:33 a.m.

CalciferDK says...

#13

I can totally understand that a fun card find's a place in your heart, even though it's not helping that much.. I made a deck around Slumbering Dragon because i like it (not working btw).

But Ring of Thune comes down turn two when you would rather play an agressive creature, then you have to wait til turn 3 to use 1 mana to equip it to some one drop, (you don't have at the moment) or a 2 drop you just played. The problem is that if your opponent have removal ready you've just spend 5-6 mana, your first 3 turns and 2 cards for nothing.. yes the ring stays on the board but to no avail, because your opponent is still 20 life up and you can only respond to his threats with o-ring and rebuke.

Wouldn't it be better to go: Turn 1> land and some one drop. Turn 2> land, Knight of Glory and attack for 2 with one drop creature. Turn 3> land, Silverblade Paladin soulbond with knight, attack with knight for 6 damage...

Yes vigilance is nice, yes its nice getting +1/+1 counters on a creature but is the card slot worth it? Lifelink is nice too but you wouldn't use Lifelink in a deck..

The same problem stands with Curse of Exhaustion . useless? No. but when would you use it? it could be good against some decks say some red/blue Izzet deck. but when you are playing against other decks, its nothing more than a nuisance that can be played around. And the the 4 mana and card slot is better used on something else. IMHO it's a sideboard card.

You are using Moonsilver Spear which is a a heavy card. I'm not saying you should cut it. But when you have deck that have so many mana heavy cards you will have a difficult time getting it out and working for you. For the spear to work you need to always have some small creatures to equip it to. Thats why i keep saying cut the ring and guardians etc.

On adding red.. yes its always hard judging wich cards to take out in favor of another. but why do you want to add more red is it for the draw/discard effect alone or do you want more creatures and burn spells too?

Seeing as you have no one drops atm you could add another Clifftop Retreat to stabilize your mana base. its the best way to use your first turn as the deck stands.

That was alot of text.. i hope i am helping and not just pissing you off ;)

October 23, 2012 4:24 a.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#14

Your not pissing me off don't worry :) ok so I will probably sideboard the Curse and maby the Spear.For Clifftop I just need to buy some more otherwise i would have 4 in here.

I have the Exalted land in here right now, need to update, i feel like Silverblade Paladin double strike and exalted would be great. What do you think about having that?

For the Guardian I just need to find a good 1 drop to replace him with :/

For red I was wanting some burn and then the discard high cost card Defy Death combination?

Thank you for all the advice! This is helping my deck a ton! oh and if you know any non standard cards that would help kill a legacy demon deck that would be great!

October 29, 2012 1:43 p.m.

CalciferDK says...

#15

Exalted and Silverblade Paladin works great!

Red/white seems a bit low on one drops in standard a the moment.. but when gatecrash comes out that will probably change.

You could use Champion of the Parish . First turn CotP > second turn Knight of Glory , buff CotP and attack for 3 > third turn silverblade paladin, buff CotP and attack for 8. thats 11 damage on turn 3.. Otherwise your first drop could be the Cathedral of War seeing it comes into play tapped. But its to very different approaches to your deck

I don't know how easy you can acquire cards, but if you wan't to really put some red in, I would suggest getting some more lands like Clifftop Retreat and Sacred Foundry . and I would cut the Seraph Sanctuary for a better mana card, even a mountain would be better. also the Angel of Jubilation would be very hard to cast if you intensify red.

For red draw/discard i would still suggest Faithless Looting .

For red removal and burn you could go with Burning Oil it's a decent card and the flashback work pretty well late game. Searing Spear is probably a bit more versatile being able to hit players but only gets one use. Fling could be fun lategame you could throw an exalted creature in the face of an opponent after it has dealt its damage, or remove a planeswalker or creature..

A couple of Bonfire of the Damned would be good, but yes they are stupidly expensive..

If you want to take it out of standard a whole new world of cards opens up.. But what wil you be using your deck for? is it for tournaments or casual play?

October 29, 2012 3:51 p.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#16

I have some of those champions so I will do that.

is Sacred Foundry standard? I didn't see it?

Faithless looting and the other red cards I'll try to put in, just have to take cards out.

Bonfire, how does the to (x) (x) work out?

I have a friend who has spent a ton of money on a demon and vampire deck and gets stupid lucky draws. All he plays with is black legacy/extended. I'm looking for a way that when I do play him it isn't just a slaughter. main reason I have Angel of Jubilation

As it is right now I want to try to take it to a tournament at some point if I can get it competitive enough.

October 29, 2012 5 p.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#17

I have some of those champions so I will do that.

is Sacred Foundry standard? I didn't see it?

Faithless looting and the other red cards I'll try to put in, just have to take cards out.

Bonfire, how does the to (x) (x) work out?

I have a friend who has spent a ton of money on a demon and vampire deck and gets stupid lucky draws. All he plays with is black legacy/extended. I'm looking for a way that when I do play him it isn't just a slaughter. main reason I have Angel of Jubilation

As it is right now I want to try to take it to a tournament at some point if I can get it competitive enough.

October 29, 2012 5 p.m.

CalciferDK says...

#18

No Sacred Foundry is not standard yet but when gatecrash comes out it will be (1. february 2013). so i guess you will have to settle for the Clifftop Retreat for now, my bad...

If bonfire is hard cast from your hand you pay twice the x cost so if you want to deal 1 damage you pay 1 red and 2 colourless. if you want to deal 3 damage you pay one red and 6 colourless etc.

Regarding the demon/vampire deck you are facing.. I'm guessing the focus of the deck is to rush you with fast big creatures that have some drawbacks, that are then sacrificed with some effect when they become a hindrance for him..

If he is using Dark Ritual you could use card:Judge's Familiar to keep him in check.Sigarda, Host of Herons could be used even though it have green in its casting cost.If you want to put legacy legacy cards in, I guess it would be better to put some more effective cards in, for example Miraculous Recovery or Breath of Life instead of of Defy Death , Lightning Helix or Lightning Bolt instead of Searing Spear

But if you want a sort of sideboard to deal with the demon deck, I would suggest you move your Angel of Jubilation to that and ad some more so you are certain you wil draw at least one when you are playing him..

I don't get why he only want to play one deck, when he flattens the one he is playing against every time.. seems a bit boring to me.. You could add 4x Karma that should end his joy of playing black against you, and maybe he will start making another deck.

October 30, 2012 5:38 a.m.

Iv4ldy says...

#19

That is great advice! I will need to work on this.He uses around 3 or 4 mono black decks. Demon Vampire Infect probably more, but he has the same basic set up in each. About the only time I win is when he gets mana flooded with every card being land, or screwed with 0 land. Every now and then we'll do booster duels (drawing a blank on the actual names of the style of play).

November 4, 2012 7:35 p.m.

theonyc says...

#20

im gonna be harsh, but it should help.take out the Moonsilver Spear , Ring of Thune , Serra Avenger , Curse of Exhaustion Guardians of Akrasa and red (keep gisela though). add in black and green to go reanimator, so you can actually cast stuff. for green and black for Mulch , Farseek , card:Avacyn's Pilgrim, Grisly Salvage , Unburial Rites , Lingering Souls and more reanimator targets. try and get duals but if not, use guildgates, you will be a turn slow though

November 4, 2012 8:08 p.m.

sample101 says...

#21

At that point he would be better off creating another deck.

November 6, 2012 6:57 p.m.

theonyc says...

#22

that was kind of my point, its a good casual deck, not so good competitive deck

November 7, 2012 12:06 a.m.

sample101 says...

#23

I'd second that.

-slow-little protection

November 7, 2012 8:02 p.m.

sample101 says...

#24

Although I think this could be a good white weenie.

November 7, 2012 8:03 p.m.

mimishmimi says...

#25

this deck sux dick

November 22, 2012 6:16 p.m.

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