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Abusing artifacts "Daretti" Style

Commander / EDH* Artifact Casual Combo Mono-Red



Bought the Build from Scratch EDH Deck and put some minor Updates to match the strength of my other decks.

Deck is getting better everytime I play it.

Any help and questions welcome!



xxSkedz24xx says... #1

Chandra, Flamecaller is insane in this deck

August 14, 2016 10:52 a.m.

ecmmyers says... #2

Hey there! Thanks for letting me take a look!

I like what I'm seeing here, for starters. The only thing that is a bit disconcerting is that 1) the curve runs a bit high and 2) that there seems to be a minimal amount of actual draw.

So, for starters we can look at this deck's curve, and thnik about how you want to cast (or jut get into play) your more expensive stuff. Because of Daretti's -2, you can get any big creature into play for cheap, so long as it's an artifact. Feldon can reanimate, but with the caveat that it dies at EoT (unless you have Sundial of the Infinite shenanigans, but that would be too unreliable, methinks). I would take a look at your non-artifact creatures, and ctitically evaluate whether they are good for Daretti. Daretti's biggest synergy is artifacts, so these creatures need to either have a big ETB impact, or artifact synergy. I'd cut stuff like Spitebellows, Tyrant's Familiar, Bogardan Hellkite, etc. and repalce it with stuff that has better synergy for you such as Dross Scorpion which is a good combo enabler, Scarecrone for recursion, or ($$$) Metalworker which is straight up busted in an artifact EDH deck. Seriously, if you thought Sol Ring was powerful, you've never tapped a 'Worker for 8 on turn 4.

Mana Rocks are great accellerants in Daretti EDH. Early on, they ramp you into big stuff but later on they can be traded up for card advantage and big threats. the best, cheaper, mana rocks are stuff like Mana Vault, Basalt Monolith, Gilded Lotus, etc. These are easily abused bu stuff that says "Untap target artifact", such as Daretti MVP, Voltaic Key.

As for point number 2, card draw, you want stuff that is recurrable or repeatable. Memory Jar is great for reurring, can be used in some combos to mill opponents, and feeds your GY for other actions. Rocks like Hedron Archive or Dreamstone Hedron are also good because of their ability to trade into more cards later when you have a recursion engine online. Plus, DSH combos with some other untap effects.Reforge the Soul is better than Molten PSyche, IMO, because it puts stuff in the yard to reuse later. Magus of the Wheel is also pretty god as a cheap sustitute for the actual Wheel of Fortune.

Some cards I'd swap out, if you want a sac outlet, Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer. He used to head my Daretti deck, and I may put him back, but he's better than Shrapnel Blast for sure. One of your damage based board wipes could become All Is Dust because it won't kill your colorless artifact creatues.

You may just prefer to have some of your lands that enter tapped swap out for other lands, even basics, because you want Daretti out and some blockers out ASAP so he can get to work. I'm thinking of Dormant Volcano and Smoldering Crater.

Those are just a few things that came to mind. Hope it helps!

August 15, 2016 5:05 p.m.

man1ac says... #3

Thanks for taking the time to have a look! Really appreciated it!I noted every plus 1 into my maybeboard but you showed me even more awesome cards which I wanna add, so I am kinda even more into the problem what comes what leaves?

And thats even just what you recommended, my Maybeboard lists more alternatives. I made some changes yesterday myself, but will reverse them so I can start with your suggestions and work an from them. But I noticed 2 things: Hangarback Walker kinda suxx, cause I want to cast him. Alhammars Archive is quite nice, cause I draw like shit :)

If you'd like, please add me on Facebook so we can have a chat :D https://www.facebook.com/man1acc

August 16, 2016 12:58 a.m.

xxSkedz24xx says... #5

Umm, you have Top listed twice and Fire Diamond still on the list

August 16, 2016 11:54 a.m.

man1ac says... #6

Sorry, messed up, should be Okay now...

August 16, 2016 12:41 p.m.

xxSkedz24xx says... #7

It's good except that Hangarback is missing

August 16, 2016 12:56 p.m.

ecmmyers says... #8

Okay, so continuing where I left off.

Bogardan Hellkite is not as good as it could be in a dedicated Feldon List, but since he's not an artifact, he's hard to both recur and cast. WHy not swap him out for something like All Is Dust for a good boardwipe that avoids a lot of your stuff, or for Rolling Earthquake for a scalable wipe in the early or late game. More draw or GY filler could be cool, and it would lower your curve so you can play more stuff earlier. Bosh could probably go. Disaster Radius is also a disaster of a card. If you want early game control, try Whipflare which came in the precon.

I actually tried and hated Hangarback in Daretti, personally. He can't be recurred (comes back as a 0/0), and you have almost no counter interaction. He's basically just an underwhelming vanilla body, that dumps out some smaller bodies. I say, go with something that makes more reliable tokens for less input, like Genesis Chamber.

Shrapnel Blast is underwhelming at 5 damage to one player. Volcanic offering is also underwhelming.

August 16, 2016 3:28 p.m.

man1ac says... #9

You are totally right about Hangarback Walker. Will be thrown out! :)I'll just buy some stuff I miss compared to your deck and the other suggestions you made. After that I can try to hit the best deck I can make...

August 17, 2016 3:16 a.m.

xxSkedz24xx says... #11

Vandalblast needs to go back in, it literally ends games with Mycosynth Lattice

September 5, 2016 3:12 p.m.

man1ac says... #12

Yea, but if Vandalblast goes back in, what goes out?I am playing on the casual kitchen table most of the times and I think a friend of mine will punch me in face when I end his game using two cards (it kinda feels like a infinite combo to me). But I am happy for suggestions.

ANother guy mentioned, because I complained of not being able to handle flying stuff (resulting in darettis death) to change the deck style more around thopter stuff (Ghirapur Gearcrafter,Thopter Engineer, Pia and Kiran Nalaar,Thopter Squadron )I think its a nice idea but I kinda feel to stupid to make these major changes :)

September 6, 2016 12:50 a.m.

trixster87 says... #13

Here are some thoughts
Geier Reach Sanitarium is great filtering land
Vandalblast is purely better then Shattering Spree
Vedalken Orrery is better than Shimmer Myr because it gives everything flash and is harder to remove.

September 13, 2016 11:11 a.m.

trixster87 says... #14

for thopters/ flyers- Thopter Assembly and Hellkite Tyrant
didn't see that your group hated the vandalblast/lattice combo. You could always just not play blast when you have lattice on the bf.

September 13, 2016 11:22 a.m.

man1ac says... #15

Had a long chat and that's what changed:


September 16, 2016 12:09 p.m.

trixster87 says... #16

Mimic Vat and Teferi's Puzzle Box are really strong cards. vat stops graveyard decks as you can exile one when it goes to the grave and use it for yourself and puzzle box is a great way to cycle through your deck and with Alhammarret's Archive will double your hand size each turn. (draw for turn then ship hand and draw x. with archive it will be x times 2)

my deck is Junkyard Rules if you want to look and see if any of my other picks perk your interest.

September 16, 2016 12:59 p.m.

xxSkedz24xx says... #17

I think I'm missing the part where infinite mana is bad (which is what Staff of Domination enables with Metalworker). Sometimes you need more than one way to just end the game on the spot

September 18, 2016 12:01 a.m.

man1ac says... #18

Sure but I want to get "rid" of most of the infinite stuff. No one likes it at my playgroup if you go infinte (and/or start destructing lands ;) ) Winning that way feels kinda lame to me :)

September 18, 2016 1:51 a.m.

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Date added 8 months
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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 3.97
Tokens Daretti, 1/1 Thopter, 1/1 Elemental, 3/3 Wurm, 1/1 Myr
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