- 4x Dark Confidant
- 2x Qasali Pridemage
- 1x Scavenging Ooze
- 2x Spellskite
- 4x Tarmogoyf
- 1x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
- 4x Tidehollow Sculler
- 2x Voice of Resurgence
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Wow. You actually made a deck that is more difficult to obtain than the now-famous and eponymous game. I'm surprised. That being said, dat mana base tho. I'm loving it just because that manabase is AMAZING. Oh, and the rest of the deck is good.
March 14, 2014 1:59 a.m.
Maybe ive been playing too much legacy recently so singletons w/o tutors feels weird to me. But the one ofs seem a little clunky. I love cannonist but I think that it's ability makes the Spirit of the Labyrinth seem very meh. Why do you care how many cards they draw if your limiting the amount of spells they can cast. Again this could be the legacy in me but I feel like a deck that wants to make the game fair should have Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite as a one of because she is a game ender especially with your token gen, and she neuters any aggro matchup you might have. Also I'm with an earlier comment on 4 bob's the last thing you want is to have one in your hand and one on the field let along 2 in your hand and one on the field. So my food for thought would be.-1 Spirit of the Labyrinth +1 Ethersworn Canonist -1 Dark Confidant +1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Ps I have some side board recommendations just lemme know if you're curious as to what I think.
March 15, 2014 5 p.m.
Also this deck reminded me of Magus of the Tabernacle idk why but it does
March 15, 2014 5:14 p.m.
4x Leyline of the Void for sideboard? They are superb at ending almost all the combo decks turn zero and don't affect your lingering souls. I'd recommend replacing Mirran Crusader (unless G/B Rock decks are popular in your meta), Surgical Extraction , and Silence . I feel like Victim of Night should be Dismember . Also, if you are going with Liliana of the Veil control type deck, you might want to consider Nightshade Assassin or Psychotic Episode . Hope all this was helpful.
March 17, 2014 11:02 a.m.
Dig the deck, +1. I have a similar deck if you wanna look:
That said, I must suggest Kitchen Finks . Great for recovering life and very good in this meta. Especially seeing as you're using Bob, the extra buffer is invaluable.
March 18, 2014 10:15 p.m.
Have you looked into Thalia, Guardian of Thraben she seems like she'd be good.
March 19, 2014 3:17 a.m.
March 19, 2014 12:39 p.m.
Speaking of swords, Sword of Fire and Ice would probably work just as good as Sword of War and Peace , being that blue is most popular. Nothing like having protection from stall cards like Unsummon , amirite?
March 22, 2014 6:40 a.m.
maybe I should just play a few swords.... I have 1 of each.
March 22, 2014 10:31 a.m.
March 26, 2014 9:46 p.m.
Hey, I don't know how well this is going for you but are you sure that you want 4x Path to Exile here? I know it's the most powerful removal spell in the format, but since Deathrite Shaman was banned, there are a lot more creatureless or nearly creatureless decks lying around, like URW control, Pyromancer Ascension , ad nauseum and Scapeshift . I think going up to 4x Abrupt Decay would be a lot more valuable in those matchups. Oh, and by the was I'm not sure if you want to take a look but I just built a new Modern deck and I'd love for you to take a look: Whispers in the Night.
March 27, 2014 1:15 p.m.
I built a modern deck that is mono black. You seem like a viably good magic player, so here it is: Blackhole.
March 27, 2014 1:25 p.m.
I really like the originality of this build. I run a junk rock deck and am constantly trying to find ways to spruce it up and make it both more fun and more reliable. You were quick to include Athreos, God of Passage in and I'm curious what your decision behind him is.
April 13, 2014 1:02 p.m.
I've just got a bunch of really bomb utility creatures that the opponent will very much want to bolt in the face. Why not make them get bolted back in the face each time they kill one? And with Liliana of the Veil adding double black it's not impossible to turn him on.
April 13, 2014 1:06 p.m.
I would consider putting in 1 Immortal Servitude . Could be really good with all those 2 drops, it does not hurt too much from confidant.
April 13, 2014 2:33 p.m.
I like this mana base and this deck's fairness!
April 17, 2014 7:34 a.m.
I know I'm a standard player and don't play modern but every good 5 color deck should have Chromaticore
badass card for a badass deck (at least it is in standard)
April 17, 2014 9:50 a.m.
This deck gets more and more absurd. Do you really think a 5 colour creature deck is viable in Modern? Without pod, even? Come on now.
Do you even own these cards? I can't imagine someone with any experience with Modern would even consider something like this.
April 17, 2014 12:52 p.m.
To an extent, sort of, yes, kinda.
The only reason you run red is for bolt and rakdos charm sideboard. Not sure if bolt is necessary considering you already run abrupt decay and path. What matchups require you to have all that extra removal? Rakdos charm is good, yes, but you already have kataki vs affinity, white and green have amazing gravehate, and Ghostly Prison does the trick vs splinter twin. So I guess what I'm saying is is that you don't really need red in this deck. It really stretches your manabase (which is already pretty stretched to hell). You have access to all the answers already, without red.
And don't get me started on splashing blue simply for serum visions. What's the point, seriously? You already have bob, you already have souls for value, and your sideboard makes no use of blue at all. Why is that, anyway?
This deck was way better when it was Junk.
April 17, 2014 7:50 p.m.
You can't just jam modern-playable cards into a single deck and think it'll work.
April 17, 2014 7:53 p.m.
Spazik008, don't let Tata get you down. While his penchant to piss all over your deck can be irritating...he makes valid points and I ended up heeding a lot of his advice in my own five color modern deck.
While I doubt you own these cards and its likely no big deal. The point is the idea. I appreciate those that stretch the notion of what is viable in the format, which is part of the fun of the eternal formats.
Tata's "gentleness" aside, his critical eye and suggestions can be quite useful if properly considered.
April 18, 2014 1:16 p.m.
When it was junk colored and 23 land the test draws were still coming up bad before I added Gemstone Mine and City of Brass . With Mana Confluence coming out, that gives enough color fixing that all the color-intense spells such as Abrupt Decay , Tidehollow Sculler , and Voice of Resurgence .
If I'm using Mana Confluence , Gemstone Mine , and City of Brass , that gives access to the other colors that aren't being primarily used. If the mana can support it, it seems prudent to me to splash the best blue and the best red spell in the format. The Serum Visions especially smooths out the draws because it lets me keep otherwise shaky 1-landers and if I'm going to flood out it lets me throw those extra lands away and draw gas. If you've played Twin or combo in Modern you should know the power of visions. And as for Lightning Bolt , I've seen Legacy American builds that would otherwise be straight blue/white except they splash red for bolt. It's a strong card, obviously.
April 18, 2014 1:43 p.m.
Also Rakdos Charm is an insane sideboard card in modern. It kills any graveyard strategy, destroys artifacts, and instantly kills splinter twin. It's like getting 12 sideboard cards out of 4 slots.
April 18, 2014 1:44 p.m.
You're trying to play a grindy deck. Using things like city of brass of mana confluence will really hurt your endgame capabilities because you'll be terrified of your opponent dopdecking burn or a creature. This is why a lot of token decks do not use Bitterblossom .
Your mana was pretty mangled even when the deck was Junk. From what I can remember you needed more fetches.
Serum Visions is good in combo decks because it lets you draw towards your combo. This is not a combo deck, and you really have nothing to draw towards except for creatures and removal.
April 22, 2014 5:20 p.m.
From experience, dont run 4 mana confluence, and on top of that especially dont run 3 more city of brass, and on top of that you are running dark confidants; it makes no sense, since this would obviously be a tap out deck and multiples of any of those really hurt your face more than they help. Quasi-agree with tata...such a mish mash of cards seems unlikely to be put into a deck by anyone who plays modern, i mean is there even a reason for running urborg? There isnt a land destruction combo or even any swampwalk creatures, i dont understand that singleton that cant be searched out. Also if you add a few bouncelands you could add 1/3 bloom titan to your description lol. Overall impressions, this devalues the 1900$ worth of cards put into it. If only i had your goyfs...im a little bitter haha
May 13, 2014 1:32 p.m.
The Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth turns off the damage from Mana Confluence , and the Dark Confidant and Serum Visions helps you dig to it more reliably. There's more synergy than appears at first glance if you actually give it a test run.
May 13, 2014 8:56 p.m.
I think that you should drop blue and red, they only give you Lightning Bolt and Serum Visions which are marginally useful. Lots of decks play Path to Exile , so try running this as a Junk deck without useless splashes. If you think you need deck manipulation, realize that Dark Confidant is drawing all the cards you'll ever need and play Courser of Kruphix alongside the full 8 fetchlands. The deck will be much more consistent and reasonable. You seriously DO NOT need Bolt or Visions.
May 13, 2014 9:23 p.m.
Whoops, didn't see your Path to Exile s already there. Try cutting the blue and red for Maelstrom Pulse , Dismember , Slaughter Pact , more Scavenging Ooze , Courser of Kruphix , and maybe some cool card advantage planeswalker in Junk colors.
May 13, 2014 9:28 p.m.
I realize this deck has a bad matchup vs Zoo or Burn from all the self damage. Any deck that tries to fight you through board state or card advantage is going to have a serious problem with this deck though.
This is basically a variant of Jund with less Jundy-ness and more Hate Bears. Straight Jund may be better after the results in Minneapolis (I was there by the way) but then again on the other hand people will know and expect that. Getting free wins off game 1 when they don't know what you're up to seems strong.
May 13, 2014 9:33 p.m.
Indeed, urborg only turns off mana confluence for black mana, while bloodmoon makes them only able to tap for red and overrides most land altering. Cool idea indeed, just doesnt work quite like that. But yeah not enough reliable life gain to counteract all those ping yourself effects imo, but im sure thats easily remediable if youre set on this assemblage of cards
May 13, 2014 9:43 p.m.
Brain Maggot is strictly better than tidehollow sculler because of its cost.
May 14, 2014 3:59 a.m.
This is fucking retarded, stupid and completely useless, look like all my decks XD (The chaose decks i don't opload here).
May 14, 2014 4:48 p.m.
May 14, 2014 4:53 p.m.
Not in a 5 colour deck. You need to cast it ASAP and pull something they have. WB just feels like too much to ask early in the game as opposed to 1B
May 14, 2014 6:03 p.m.
To the doubters in the recent comments, I just tested this last night against Pod, American, Affinity, and Burn.
The two big decks right now, Pod and American, are very easily handled by this deck. Affinity is an even matchup and burn, of course, is the bad matchup, but even then I still got 1 win out of 3 pre-board.
I know it looks weird and it's not something anyone else is trying right now, but take a more objective look at it. It's a pile of good cards that mildly synergize and significantly disrupt the opponent while attacking for lethal with utility creatures and hate bears supplemented by Tarmogoyf .
I once fetch-shocked myself down to 12 with my Dredgevine. This mana base really isn't that much more painful than an 8-count fetch deck.
May 19, 2014 1:18 p.m.
Your mana base is bad. I had to restart in playtester 5 times to get a workable hand.
Also, you get hosed by Pod. Your tester either doesn't know how to play Pod, or doesn't know how to play Pod.
May 19, 2014 6:29 p.m.
I'll start off by saying that Birthing Pod and UWR Control (which is what I assume you mean by "American") are not the two most prominent Modern decks. I would say that Melira Pod specifically as well as Splinter Twin variants are the most prominent decks.
As iamacasual said, I am really not sure how you see Birthing Pod as a favorable matchup. Take their Birthing Pod with Thoughtseize , and their creatures are just straight up better in terms of grindy midrange power, and they have a much better long game. If you let them untap with Birthing Pod , you just lose on the spot (think Murderous Redcap killing all your guys and Voice of Resurgence ).
UWR Control seems pretty good for this deck. You've got the disruption and anti-control cards. You're solid there.
Against Affinity, I am again not sure how you see that matchup as good. I feel like unless you draw plenty of removal, you're just getting overrun, as your creatures aren't super great when it comes to blocking. Arcbound Ravager and manlands especially are a beating. Also, dealing yourself something ridiculous like 7-9 damage from your own lands is terrible against the fastest aggressive deck in the format barring Infect or Burn.
Fetch-shocking to 12 with Dredgevine is just plain poor play, and I can't say more. No one should ever have to fetch untapped shocks twice and then shock again to play all their cards. Don't be that greedy. 8-fetchland decks have plenty of basics (e.g. Pod) or ways to gain the life they lose, neither of which you really have.
I will once again advocate cutting the blue and red, as they really aren't necessary to have proper removal and deck smoothness. Play Scavenging Ooze . Play more Abrupt Decay . Play more Inquisition of Kozilek . Play Courser of Kruphix . Play Lingering Souls . The Junk version was so much more consistent and powerful.
May 19, 2014 7:10 p.m.
When I had this deck in more of what some people call the "Maverick" archetype, when it was junk with Lingering Souls , hitting the mana was hard without City of Brass . I feel like if I'm going to use city and Mana Confluence , I should take advantage of the access to extra colors.
Also with red, the Rakdos Charm off the sideboard is pretty clutch. There's artifact hate, graveyard hate, and splinter twin hate, but not all in the same card.
Basically it seems like the main argument against Mana Confluence is the pain from the land, but I don't see it doing that much more than fetch-shock. There's a lot of little things. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth lets the Mana Confluence produce black mana without pain. Also drawing land is a thing. You'll note the deck tops out at basically 2 with only 3 CMC cards in Liliana of the Veil . With the Serum Visions gluing everything together it comes together a lot more than it looks like on paper.
May 19, 2014 10:12 p.m.
You make some good points. However, I don't understand how the mana was hard with Junk. You have access to Verdant Catacombs and Marsh Flats giving maximum value, Stirring Wildwood as well as filter lands in Twilight Mire and Fetid Heath , Razorverge Thicket , etc. The mana should really be close to if not perfect. I would give it a second try, as the deck has tons of good mana options.
Rakdos Charm is really not that great. I know Conley Woods says it is, but graveyard decks aren't that big right now (even Snapcaster Mage decks can still function well without their yard, and UWR control is already a solid matchup anyway). 2 mana for removing a single artifact just won't cut it, as even Ancient Grudge (which you should probably be playing instead) sometimes doesn't do the trick. Against Splinter Twin , countering Rakdos Charm is very easy. The red is really not necessary when Junk has plenty of good hate options available.
May 19, 2014 10:30 p.m.
I agree with other people who say a little lifegain would go far int his deck.
May 22, 2014 1:25 p.m.
I'm thinking maindeck Scavenging Ooze could be good actually.
May 22, 2014 4:21 p.m.
I really dislike this deck, you lose too much life and have no way to gain it back. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea, I just think that the execution is a little off.
May 23, 2014 2:31 p.m.
I really like what you have done here. It is something I have wanted to try for a long time. Since I see a bunch of ways to lose life in order to achieve your goal, have you thought of a Death's Shadow or two? It would be a hilarious finisher.
May 24, 2014 8:01 a.m.
I feel like you should cut the serum visions to run Manamorphose- it still provides draw but helps shore up the manabase. Vivid lands kick a lot of ass, but they are going to hurt your tempo considerably or fill up your manland slots, so plan accordingly. Good luck with getting it to work.
February 25, 2017 9:32 a.m.
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