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Modern hollandboys

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Changes —Feb. 8, 2013

Well I figured it was time to get around to some changes with the new Gatecrash cards. Decks need to evolve with the new sets being released and I feel that junk can still be a good competitor. Let me know opinions on the changes that have been made, I'm moving more away from tokens and towards a junk midrange feel

captainhigh says... #1

Rancor ?

December 28, 2012 11:17 p.m.

RedMurderDemon says... #2

CraterHoof!!! Craterhoof Behemoth BeHeMoth!!!

December 28, 2012 11:28 p.m.

hollandboys says... #3

I used to run Rancor in here but it was taken out and the deck has been working better since. As for Craterhoof Behemoth I'm not quite convinced. It might be nice as a 1-of but really what can be taken out here? I can't think of anything to remove

December 29, 2012 1:26 a.m.

RedMurderDemon says... #4

Nah I just wanted to spam... other than that your deck is pretty much air tight not much I could think of to make it better. :D

December 29, 2012 1:48 a.m.

hollandboys says... #5

That's all good, I do my fair share of spamming

December 29, 2012 1:52 a.m.

redafroninja says... #6

Parallel Lives ? seems like it could be useful here

December 29, 2012 11:28 a.m.

hollandboys says... #7

I have used Parallel Lives in the past but it is just too slow. I would rather be dropping a planeswalker or a Restoration Angel and advancing the game than dropping and enchantment that doesn't help me the turn it comes out

December 29, 2012 12:15 p.m.

CallMeCrazy says... #8

Doesn't Rest in Peace hurt your Lingering Souls ?

December 29, 2012 9:50 p.m.

hollandboys says... #9

It does hurt Lingering Souls but not as much as it would hurt my opponent if they are relying on graveyard interaction. I just weigh my options and if I feel like it will hurt them more than me I put it in

December 29, 2012 11:49 p.m.

theonyc says... #10

Collective Blessing , sounds stupid, but works.

December 30, 2012 2:19 a.m.

hollandboys says... #11

I've tried Collective Blessing . It was in here for a while and came out just due to lack of room. The only thing I could think of removing for it would be one Intangible Virtue but I just love my vigilance tokens too much

December 30, 2012 2:21 a.m.

scienceguy11 says... #12

Maybe take out 1 Intangible Virtue or both Sorin, Lord of Innistrad . I feel that card:Trostani, Selesnya's Voice would be fairly effective. Once you have one Intangible Virtue , it just becomes overkill on a 3/3 beast token. The life gain would help in grueling late game play and protect yourself against pesky control deck that bounce creature. One could argue that the Vault of the Archangel works as life gain (which I love in this deck still), but it's taking away five possible mana for about 8 life isn't worth it when you can let Trostani's automatic trigger help and then use your mana more effectively. Also, why not Loxodon Smiter ? It helps you race, and without the mainboard Cavern of Souls , it helps against control.

December 31, 2012 12:23 p.m.

hollandboys says... #13

Why do people keep suggesting removing Sorin, Lord of Innistrad ? He really is one of the best cards in this deck. He's a repeatable anthem that also produces lifelink tokens to stall out to a Thragtusk or Geist-Honored Monk . card:Trostani, Selesnya's Voice will get removed so fast it's not even funny. One of the big things with this deck is that if cards get removed they get replaced just as fast, and that is very frustrating for opponents. Maybe I'll throw a Trostani or two in the sideboard for match ups against control. As for Loxodon Smiter I have tried him before but I took him out for Restoration Angel . Loxodon Smiter is much more of an aggro card when this deck is trying to play more midrange

December 31, 2012 12:37 p.m.

http404error says... #14

I would call Smiter kind of a hybrid aggro-midrange card. It's beefy and cheap! That doesn't mean you should run it if it doesn't fit in though.

December 31, 2012 1:50 p.m.

hollandboys says... #15

I agree, but there is absolutely nothing I can think of removing from this deck. It's at a point where I feel like changes to the mainboard won't make it any better. The sideboard is open for changes though

December 31, 2012 2:01 p.m.

scienceguy11 says... #16

Question: Which ability do you most often use for the Golgari Charm ?

January 1, 2013 12:04 p.m.

scienceguy11 says... #17

Also, what about swapping an Oblivion Ring with a Sever the Bloodline ? The broader removal could help your attackers get through. But that's just a suggestion you might want to only try. I can definitely see both Sever the Bloodline s in the side board as a fine choice.

January 1, 2013 12:10 p.m.

hollandboys says... #18

Golgari Charm is generally used against enchantment decks. I lost to an Invisible Stalker enchantment deck at FNM once and so they got put in the sideboard to account for that. The regeneration is also nice. There are two reasons I have Oblivion Ring in the mainboard instead of Sever the Bloodline . One: The mana cost is lower, allowing me to more easily remove a threat and still play my own threat. Two: The versatility. Oblivion Ring . removes everything, whereas Sever the Bloodline only removes creatures. I sideboard Sever the Bloodline in against decks similar to mine

January 1, 2013 3:08 p.m.

hollandboys says... #19

Also, what do people think of adding 1 Obzedat in this deck after gatecrash hits? It would be nice with Restoration Angel and it's a five drop 5/5 which is nice. Link is here: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138251&stc=1&d=1357016726

January 1, 2013 3:11 p.m.

scienceguy11 says... #20

I agree. I read an interesting article on the daily mtg. But I ask why? It's difficult enough to block your onslaught of creatures, so why go for a combo when it just takes up space?

January 1, 2013 4:59 p.m.

hollandboys says... #21

It might find a place in the sideboard. The reasoning would be because hes a 5/5 that deals 2 damage and gains me 2 life each turn and he can't be boardwiped on my opponents turn. It would be nice against control decks. At this moment I sideboard in Sigarda but she doesn't help against boardwipes. Can you link the article?

January 1, 2013 5:20 p.m.

scienceguy11 says... #22

Also, I have a deck that I have been working on for a while, so if you could give some feedback, that would be much appreciated.

Orzhov Control

January 1, 2013 5:23 p.m.

scienceguy11 says... #23

Sure. It includes two deck ideas, which will be worth trying I think (especially the Esper). http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/rc/228

January 1, 2013 5:30 p.m.

http404error says... #24

I think Obzedat might have mana issues with the current land base, but if you can manage to cast it, you'll find that losing is quite difficult afterward.

January 1, 2013 5:34 p.m.

hollandboys says... #25

Remember that there will be Godless Shrine s in here once gatecrash hits. I would obviously change the base if I do decide to run one or two. It would probably be better than Geist-Honored Monk . Maybe I'll just make another deck focused around him, that esper one in the article looks appetizing

January 1, 2013 5:40 p.m.