Thanks for the primer: still can't say they're the comms for me...but it's good to at least understand em better, so ta!Would Derevi, Empyrial Tactician work well with this kind of deck?

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Funny you should mention, because I'm currently working on the deck's first multi-card update. Several cards are underperforming and need to be replaced. I was considering Derevi, Empyrial Tactician as having a pseudo Amulet of Vigor for tapped lands like Magosi, the Waterveil seems nice. I decided against though since Derevi seems to really shine in either her own commander deck, or the control/stax version of this deck paired with something like Hokori, Dust Drinker and fun red cards like Collapsing Borders.

Ah kk makes sense. I was thinking more as a punishment for opponents, to join with abolisher: tapping their lands with him/dragonlord out makes em less able to instant/activatr until their turn. Still, you're bound to build LOTS of hate that way, so lol yea...Ah talking about that,Frozen AEther, Kismet? Or would that fit the control archetype you mentioned instead?And I'm sure you've already checked all the landfall cards, so I'm surprised no retreats! Wow love the look of Tunneling Geopede, an impact tremors for landfall...

As for your updates: I'd replace fellwar with your removed ingot -that indestructibility seems more valuable. What an interesting card is chaosphere! Prefer the alt you mentioned, however if you were interested in only the aggressive side of sphere, Dense Canopy gives you that. Lore, obvs...still you ain't short on mana, what about Skyshroud Claim?

Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter states in the lore that she had a wife. I thought I would share that for you if you are interested in more LGBT representation in MTG. +1 for a lovely deck and primer.

I missed Guardians comments. My apologies.

Hey again @reaperOscuroCore! To answer your questions, yes Frozen AEther and Kismet definitely fall into the control archetype. I also considered Tunneling Geopede early on and to be honest it still is under consideration. I haven't gotten to test with it much but my fear is that its effect will turn the table against my board without being impactful enough.

Dense Canopy is indeed on the aggressive side. Regrettably Chaosphere (potentially Spidersilk Armor instead) provide a defensive option since Flying abounds in EDH. If you wanted to run an effect like Dense Canopy, I'd actually recommend Bower Passage. It's often overlooked but it's a one-sided Dense Canopy!

Also, no worries @Casey4321, always glad to see comments :>

I adore your ideas for these guys! Just a few things I want to pick you brain about. Have you considered Purphoros, God of the Forge as a way to push through to victory with landfall triggers on token producers when you can't rely on combat? Additionally, Kruphix, God of Horizons seems like a great way to make sure you keep all the cards you draw neatly in hand and are never wasting mana. Alhammarret's Archive appears incredible both with the lifegain and the the extra cards you are drawing!

Is there any concern of accidentally decking yourself? I feel like Consecrated Sphinx alone could possibly lead to that, and there are lots of other means packed in there of accelerating draws to awesome leads but possibly deadly results.

All in all you've given me a lot of great ideas and direction for these fellas and I can't wait to start shaping my own deck! Thanks and good luck!

Hey @callmekowalski, I'm very glad you like the deck. Purphoros, God of the Forge was actually not under consideration at all! I'll probably add a section to the primer for cards that would be very useful to run had I not already run them in other decks. Purphoros is currently a shining star in a Intet the Dreamer blink deck so he regrettably won't be making an appearance here.

Secondly, I do like Kruphix, God of Horizons. He's currently on the list of cards that very well may make it into the deck if something else is under-performing and the reasons for adding him, as you've highlighted are amazing. Alhammarret's Archive is a card I've been looking to use for a long time and does immediately work with Kynaios and Tiro so that's definitely something for me to look at (I completely overlooked it!).

And to answer your final question, I have absolutely no qualms about decking myself! Consecrated Sphinx's ability (thankfully) is a may ability so I'm never required to draw those cards. Additionally, the Sphinx almost never survives a full round around the table ;P

I'm very happy the primer's helped out and am very happy for the feedback! Good luck!

Hah, well, silly me on Consecrated Sphinx then. He's going right in...just need to find 20 bucks hehe.

Not my own idea but I had seen other people dancing around the idea of Overburden and it seemed so very clever and ideal for a strategy like this, though I could see it potentially drawing some hate too. (Luckily any tokens you create wouldn't bounce your lands according to the errata from Wizards.)

Great deck and primer, certainly helped point me in the direction of a deck with some power using these guys +1!

Might I suggest Sunbond with all the incidental life gain there is potential for something to get huge after a single board rotation. Only problem is it would most likely draw some serious hate.