- 4x Bristling Hydra
- 4x Electrostatic Pummeler
- 2x Greenbelt Rampager
- 2x Khenra Charioteer
- 4x Longtusk Cub
- 2x Rhonas the Indomitable
- 4x Servant of the Conduit
- 4x Voltaic Brawler
So this is basically normal pummeler with the reach of ramunap red? Sounds fun, I might try it as I already have a pummeler deck.
September 27, 2017 6:47 p.m.
SharpInclude, yes, that is effectively the idea. I'll probably replace Shock with Lightning Strike, but I haven't yet decided. There are a couple of other cards worth toying with in red and green, but this seems to be a pretty solid build. With a good curve, this will swing from 56 or so on turn 5 or 6, depending when you play Electrostatic Pummeler (as you would well know as you have a very similar deck).
I swap out the Electrostatic Pummelers against certain matchups that seem to go heavy with Abrade or other artifact/creature hate. For those, I side in Glorybringer and Hazoret the Fervent to great effect.
Let me know how it works for you. This is still in its infancy for this new meta. I have seen Temur Pummelr decks, but I like the good ol' fashioned R/G build.
September 27, 2017 7:33 p.m.
September 27, 2017 7:34 p.m.
September 29, 2017 9:20 a.m.
October 1, 2017 10:37 a.m.
I'm gonna be that guy and suggest Fling. Against creature decks this is an automatic win, as sacrificing a huge Electrostatic Pummeler is part of the casting cost and they can't respond by killing your Pummeler. If not two copies in main, maybe a couple in side. It's amazing in this list I promise you.
October 2, 2017 9:37 a.m.
Rex_JB24, well, that's actually a pretty cool idea! Thanks! I'll definitely strongly consider that!
October 2, 2017 9:40 a.m.
Have an upvote and yeah, Ixalan doesn't add anything other than Strike really.
Unless you do that bad UG build on CF I guess.
October 2, 2017 9:43 a.m.
xcn, thanks for the upvote. I saw the U/G build on CF. I'm not a fan of that build. I think the concept is interesting, but I think there are just better cards to use in red. I've also seen temur builds-- those are indeed interesting, but I still think the R/G build is the strongest. It would be nice to get the option of Opt or Chart A Course as a way to draw cards, though.
Thanks for the comment and for the upvote!
October 2, 2017 11:07 a.m.
October 3, 2017 9:39 a.m.
We'll see how the meta shakes out of course, but with the success of Sultai Energy (#1 and #3 SCG Dallas), I'm expecting to see more Walking Ballista for the next few weeks. I'm not sure if I want more protection or just some Shaper's Sanctuary though ...
Also, depending on your meta of course, Crushing Canopy can do good work.
October 3, 2017 9:47 a.m.
clayperce, thanks for the suggestions! I'll have to see how the meta of the deck landscape forms over the next few weeks before anything big happens with the deck (if at all). Your suggestions are well-considered-- thanks! Also, thanks for the upvote!
October 3, 2017 11:27 a.m.
Hi! I allows myself to share my version of the deck that i use since AKH (sideboard updated for ixalan) Flying Pummeler
I really don't like the longtusk cub as it is not a reliable source of energy and much more of an energy sink when i need it for the pummeler. I looove lathnu hellion and i play 4 copies of it in sideboard that i very often swap in instead of the pummeler (either when i want to get more agressive or when i suspect that my opponent will find a way to deal with the pummeler - dispossess, gideon intervention, walking ballista...). It's super resilient to cheap removals and closes the game really quickly with invigorated rampage.
I really never uses the glorybringer and am thinking of getting rid of it.
I also play rhonas as it act as a little invigorated rampage for the pummeler and goes well with lathnu hellion after sideboarding.
The fling in sideboard seems useless to me as 3 is already enough to guarantee to have one for closing the game. i don't think Hazoret is required as it doesnt synergizes with energy. And i don't play the deserts and yet never really needed it (the green one doesnt give trample).
I don't know how your build is performing (mine is going really strong, never losing to temur energy, and quite flexible) and i am anyway happy to see an other way of playing the deck (i'm almost sure that our decks really don't want to manage the energy in the same way - i go very beatdown almost all the time, and rarely try to tempo things)
October 20, 2017 2:45 p.m.
Why don't you have larger than life in main board?
October 23, 2017 11:04 p.m.
And what is the ideal turn you should win the game by?
October 23, 2017 11:06 p.m.
Zygomatic, thanks for the suggestions. The deck I took to FNM (see above update) actually included 2x Rhonas the Indomitable. I haven't had a chance to properly update the deck list since I changed it on Friday. Longtusk Cub is amazing. Yes, it is a bit of an energy sink, but it is definitely an alternative win condition. Electrostatic Pummeler doesn't show up every game, so I need alternatives. Longtusk Cub and the other creatures definitely provide that. I very definitely sided in Glorybringer 3 of the 5 games last FNM and it was definitely a game changer the moment it hit the field (only twice made it to the field with only 2x to side in). No way I am taking that out of the side! I think I am actually moving that fourth Fling to the main because it is just incredibly useful. I attacked with trample, then cast Fling to end games. It was pretty amazing.
PriceyFern, I replaced Larger Than Life with Fling and I have Invigorated Rampage, both of which are instant-speed (compared to the sorcery-speed Larger Than Life). I can let blockers be declared, then respond with instant speed. This is much more efficient. Truthfully, I will drop Larger Than Life from the side-- and therefore the deck-- completely. I don't know that there's a turn by which I should win the game. I have played games where I win by turn 6, and games that went for many, many turns. The deck is capable of keeping up with Ramunap Red and B/R aggro, so it can be quite fast. Alternatively, it can hold it's own just fine against a midrange deck. The deck has incredible flexibility.
October 24, 2017 8:58 a.m.
The fastest the deck can win is Turn 4.
- T1: Attune with Aether (2 total).
- T2: Servant of the Conduit (4 total).
- T3: Electrostatic Pummeler (7 total); hold Servant up for Blossoming Defense.
- T4: Attack with Pummeler. Cast Invigorated Rampage, making it a 5/1 with Trample. Pay to pump Pummeler to 10/6, then to 20/16. Cast Blossoming Defense or Fling if needed.
Please note this is rare, but is not a totally Magical Christmasland scenario. Christmas happens 0.27% of the time (1 day out of 365), and the draws play out like this 3.5% of the time on the Play and 5.4% of the time on the Draw ...
October 24, 2017 9:32 a.m.
Thanks M8s, really helped me out. I think this is the deck I'm going to play in competitive standard...
October 24, 2017 12:12 p.m.
clayperce, I tried running 4x Greenbelt Rampager in place of the 2x Aethertorch Renegades (and 2x Servant of the Conduit moved to the side-- but that was definitely a mistake) and had some success. However, they are most definitely an energy sink, but provide a 3/4 body for only (instead of a 1/2 body for , but a 1/2 that brings along ). I am a bit torn on this one. Any thoughts?
October 24, 2017 2:35 p.m.
Here's my Electrostatic Pummeler deck that I run at FNM's, it's pretty competitive and no one expects the turn 4 win, which I get pretty consistently. I don't agree with your choice of Aethertorch Renegade or Greenbelt Rampager as they're slow for the deck and there are just so many better options. I also don't like the Khenra Charioteer because turn 3 you're looking to drop Electrostatic Pummeler or Lathnu Hellion, or maybe a Bristling Hydra if you got out Servant of the Conduit turn 2 (and it lived). I have the Longtusk Cub sideboard because they don't match what the deck wants to do game 1, but post board I'll sometimes put them in for Electrostatic Pummeler. I also don't agree with the Scavenger Grounds in the sideboard, I run 2 main and when I do draw it, if I don't need it I can just sacrifice it to either Hashep Oasis or Ramunap Ruins. I also don't feel that this deck needs Field of Ruin anywhere in it, there aren't really any lands that stop us, the only one that might being Ifnir Deadlands. Also, I found 4 Fling to be too much because I would consistently draw 2 a game when I only needed one. Here's my list if anyone wants to check it out: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-10-17-rg-energy/
October 28, 2017 12:26 p.m.
ObliviousDaemon, to me the obvious difference between the deck you describe and my deck is that I don't rely heavily on Electrostatic Pummeler as the primary win condition. Rather, for me, it is one of a few win conditions. I like the versatility of the deck as it allows me to be more agile with my responses for several decks. Yes, I do understand that a turn 4 win means that I wouldn't have to be so responsive, but I also know from playing more Electrostatic Pummeler-reliant decks that the win consistency for me, my play style, and my meta is lower over the long term. I get that you may disagree with that, and that it may work well for you and for the meta in which you find yourself. However, I find myself and my play style in a meta that has more success in the increased versatility of this current build.
Thanks for your comments and I appreciate your perspective!
October 28, 2017 9:21 p.m.
ObliviousDaemon, oops forgot to address the lands that you mentioned. The Scavenger Grounds is mainly useful for U/B control matchups where there seem to be a higher density of The Scorpion Gods, and Field of Ruin is fantastic for anything running Search for Azcanta Flip. These lands are great in those matchups, but I don't need them mainboard as of yet because these decks haven't quite moved to really common in my local store. If they do, then these will likely go into the main board. For now, though, they are fine in the side and I want them because these decks do show up, just not enough (yet) for me to profitably put them into the main.
I actually increased to 4x fling from 3x because I found myself using them and wishing for another!
Thanks again for your perspective!
October 28, 2017 9:37 p.m.
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|+2||Rhonas the Indomitable||main|
|-1||Desert of the Indomitable||main|
|-1||Hazoret the Fervent||side|
|-2||Larger Than Life||side|