Food Chain Prossh

Commander / EDH* angelforge

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Tormod's Crypt -> Selvala, Heart of the Wilds —Sept. 22, 2016

A pretty easy change. Was playing Tormod's Crypt as an agreement with a local storm player (each of us ran 1 piece of hate for the HD deck). Said player moved, and I don't want such a politic change anymore. If you need grave hate play Faerie Macabre.

Ailak says... #1

Love the deck but had a few questions. Do you find 28 lands to be enough after the mulligan changes? What do you usually want to see in your opening hand? Your usual/preferred route to victory? Thank you. +1

March 5, 2016 5:17 p.m.

Gamernatic says... #2

Showstopper as an alternate wincon alongside the cutthroat and Blood Artist?

March 7, 2016 9:44 a.m.

angelforge says... #3

yeaGO 28 lands has been fine after the mulligans, although burning a tutor to get my next land drop (or Sylvan Library to find my next land drop if I got to ramp on turn 1 as well) happens a little more often now. A solid opening hand has a tutor, a 1cmc ramp creature, and 2 lands for a turn 3 Food Chain, but that's by no means set in stone - sometimes we get a lot of ramp and the best thing to do is go for Ad Nauseam, or maybe theres a lot of disruption so we need to slowroll. Really it depends on the table, but that set of 4 is a solid goldfish start. My favorite way to win is Purphorous into Prossh beats into Zulaport Cutthroat for the game - but that only happens when Food Chain is answered. Genesis Hydra is our best wincon because it triggers on cast, not ETB, so it's very difficult to disrupt.

One important thing is I actually have 30 "land slots". I swapped out Llanowar Wastes and Grove of the Burnwillows for Sylvan Ranger and Gatecreeper Vine. This small change makes me a bit greedier overall, but gives me a much better time against mana denial decks by running an effective 6 basic lands - super useful versus Blood Moon! They're also often better then a 3rd or 4th land drop, because they make 3 mana off of Food Chain. Premulligans I had 29 land slots, and played Elvish Visionary and Sylvan Ranger (over Wall of Blossoms as the 2nd "cantripping" creature).

Gamernatic The problem with Showstopper is that it's a noncreature that costs 3 mana. Food Chain mana can only be used on creatures. My five wincons - Purphoros, Zulaport Cutthroat, Blood Artist, Goblin Bushwhacker, and Reckless Bushwhacker - can all be cast off Food Chain mana. Which is very relevant - Often times I'll win with 3 mana available - Food Chain turns every creature into a Pyretic Ritual for creature mana. So turn 1 Land, Elf, turn 2 Land, Food Chain, exile the elf for 2 creature mana, use that mana to cast another creature for +1 mana, and repeat until you have cast Prossh, only works if you can use Food Chain mana on your wincon. Showstopper means you need 6 mana, in addition to the mana to cast Prossh, to go off.

Note that I don't count Goblin Bombardment as a wincon. I play it because it's a removal spell that has really strong synergy with Prossh. After that, it's a midrange card that I use to sac and recast Prossh when the food chain plan can't happen. And after that its a wincon.

April 1, 2016 11:08 p.m.

skyfly1080 says... #4

Fantastic deck! I have a much more casual prossh, but it does well at a casual table. I'm working with a budget to do upgrades. Can you explain what you would switch out using your listed budget cards? Thanks!

July 27, 2016 9:31 p.m.