Trying to build a deck around hollowed one and Riddleform. Seem like 2 extremely oppressive cards that immediately present an early threat, backed up with counters and combat tricks. One small trick I like is the Aftermath of Farm // market with hollowed one or cunning survivor on the field. Would love to see any suggestions, thanks guys.

Also, I'm trying to avoid anything from BFZ-EMN so nothing rotates in September




landofMordor says... #1

I would cut your Cunning Survivor for Countervailing Winds or another utility creature. Riddleform is an evasive enough threat that you might not need the additional threat, and that change would boost your cycling percentage, which seems a little low here.

July 17, 2017 10:46 a.m.

mario390 says... #2

landofMordor Thanks for the comment! I had a lot of trouble on whether or not to keep thew winds in, its definitely more of a control card and I dont know if I'd like to go tempo or control yet. In my testing I found I got a lot more out of the Cunning Survivor than the winds. I have a playset of each so I'll definitley try out subing that in for few test matches. Thanks again man

July 17, 2017 3:15 p.m.

mario390 says... #3

Here's a list of cards that I thought I'd try, but they don't line up as well as I'd like to my deck's goal.

If anyone thinks any of these will be better in either board please speak up! Love you all

July 17, 2017 3:34 p.m.

landofMordor says... #4

Hey friend. I think you're right -- none of those look perfect for what your deck is doing. I could see 3-4 slots for New Perspectives or Abandoned Sarcophagus, but only as a value engine in case something goes wrong. This deck still wants to be a zoo-like aggro experience with some serious control backing it up. If anything, you could cut Pull from Tomorrow for one of those, since they fill up a similar slot in your list.

July 17, 2017 4:21 p.m.

landofMordor says... #5

Oh wait just checked your SB. I think you should cut your Defeat cycles and your Splendor. The first two are too narrow (unless Gideon AoZ is prevalent in your meta), and Splendor is too expensive (put it in an EDH deck and wreck someone's day). You can find slots there to grind against control or add threats in a race situation, I think.

July 17, 2017 4:23 p.m.

mario390 says... #6

Gideon is definitely prevalent here, but I was a little iffy on the Jace. I'll throw a Pull from Tomorrow in sideboard and add the New Perspectives into main. I like your thinking! Thanks for all the help :)

July 17, 2017 4:28 p.m.

Zooby9 says... #7

I have a deck that is purely based around cycling, so it's a little different than yours, but I have found Countervailing Winds to be an incredible counterspell. Our decks work the same in that we cycle things sometimes, which allows cards to get into our graveyards, and you cast a lot of instant and sorceries which get into your graveyard. You wouldn't think it would end up being good, but it can get to impossible for an opponent to pay for by turn 5, so I would really suggest Including it. Here's my deck if you're interested: You Remember That Censor I Cycled... It is BU so some different cards but it still might be useful. I like your deck though!

July 17, 2017 6:21 p.m.

mario390 says... #8

Zooby9 Thanks for the suggestion! I do like that card but for now I'm testing the cunning survivor in place of it for a little more tempo

July 18, 2017 11:29 a.m.

Puglord77 says... #9

Best deck i've ever seen. You da best

July 24, 2017 11:58 a.m.

inkstorm says... #10

You might wish to rethink the combination of riddleform and U/W control. Most of the spells and abilities you use happen during your opponent's turn (counteres, draw, bounce, cycling). In this regard, Riddleform is a 2 mana enchantment with text reading, "waste this card.

July 24, 2017 10:36 p.m.

mario390 says... #11

inkstorm, Thanks for the input! I did feel in my testing that i didnt get enough use out of it. I wanted it to be the card I built the deck around, but it felt like I never used it. I think you're right, but I dont know which way to take the deck. What would my wincon be?

July 25, 2017 3:29 p.m.

inkstorm says... #12

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how U/W control would win in a cycle based deck. Abandoned Sarcophagus doesn't add much value and no major synergies come to mind. The U/B cycling deck has Vile Manifestation and creature-based cyclers that enable God-Pharaoh's Gift.

As for Riddleform, the card has found a spot in U/R prowess decks. The two synergize as both require casting spells on your turn.

July 26, 2017 12:25 a.m.

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Illegal cards Cunning Survivor , Desert of the Mindful , Desert of the True , Desert's Hold , Djeru's Renunciation , Farm / Market , Hollow One , Hostile Desert , Riddleform , Unsummon , Countervailing Winds , Gideon's Defeat , Scavenger Grounds , Solemnity
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-2 Striped Riverwinder main
+1 Desert of the Mindful main
-2 Supreme Will main
-1 Abandoned Sarcophagus main
-1 Unsummon main
-2 Open Into Wonder main
-1 Nimble Obstructionist main
+1 Cast Out main
+1 Pull from Tomorrow main
+2 Kefnet the Mindful main
-1 Overwhelming Splendor main
-4 Countervailing Winds main
-2 Manalith main
+1 Censor main
+1 New Perspectives main
-2 Sandblast main
-2 Tragic Lesson main
+2 Drake Haven main
+3 Hollow One main
-4 Cancel main
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