- 1x Arbor Elf
- 1x Argothian Elder
- 1x Avenger of Zendikar
- 1x Bane of Progress
- 1x Craterhoof Behemoth
- 1x Deranged Hermit
- 1x Devoted Druid
- 1x Elvish Mystic
- 1x Eternal Witness
- 1x Fauna Shaman
- 1x Fierce Empath
- 1x Fyndhorn Elves
- 1x Great Oak Guardian
- 1x Joraga Treespeaker
- 1x Karametra's Acolyte
- 1x Norwood Priestess
- 1x Oracle of Mul Daya
- 1x Priest of Titania
- 1x Protean Hulk
- 1x Prowling Serpopard
- 1x Quirion Ranger
- 1x Reclamation Sage
- 1x Regal Force
- 1x Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
- 1x Terastodon
- 1x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
- 1x Ulvenwald Tracker
- 1x Viridian Zealot
- 1x Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
- 1x Wirewood Symbiote
- 1x Genesis Wave
- 1x Green Sun's Zenith
- 1x Life's Legacy
- 1x Natural Order
- 1x Sylvan Scrying
- 1x Tooth and Nail
- 1x Traverse the Outlands
- 1x Ancient Tomb
- 1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
- 1x Cavern of Souls
- 1x City of Traitors
- 1x Deserted Temple
- 1x Dryad Arbor
- 1x Gaea's Cradle
- 1x Hall of the Bandit Lord
- 1x Maze of Ith
- 1x Misty Rainforest
- 1x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
- 20x Snow-Covered Forest
- 1x Verdant Catacombs
- 1x Windswept Heath
- 1x Wirewood Lodge
- 1x Wooded Foothills
- 1x Earthcraft
- 1x Greater Good
- 1x Mana Reflection
- 1x Mirri's Guile
- 1x Recycle
- 1x Song of the Dryads
- 1x Survival of the Fittest
- 1x Sylvan Library
- 1x Utopia Sprawl
- 1x Wild Growth
- 1x Birthing Pod
- 1x Cloudstone Curio
- 1x Crucible of Worlds
- 1x Grim Monolith
- 1x Lightning Greaves
- 1x Mana Crypt
- 1x Sol Ring
- 1x Umbral Mantle
- 1x Viridian Longbow
- 1x Winter Orb
- 1x Abzan Beastmaster
- 1x Aluren
- 1x Ancient Stirrings
- 1x Caustic Caterpillar
- 1x Concordant Crossroads
- 1x Eldritch Evolution
- 1x Elvish Piper
- 1x Food Chain
- 1x Genesis Hydra
- 1x Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip
- 1x Mana Vault
- 1x Mimic Vat
- 1x Nacatl War-Pride
- 1x Noxious Revival
- 1x Overgrowth
- 1x Regrowth
- 1x Reliquary Tower
- 1x Rishadan Port
- 1x Scapeshift
- 1x Scorched Ruins
- 1x Scroll Rack
- 1x See the Unwritten
- 1x Sensei's Divining Top
- 1x Soul of the Harvest
- 1x Temur Sabertooth
- 1x Traverse the Ulvenwald
- 1x Wave of Vitriol
- 1x Whisperwood Elemental
- 1x World Breaker
- 1x Worldly Tutor
- 1x Yavimaya Hollow
- 1x Yeva, Nature's Herald
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August 27, 2017 8:54 p.m.
Great suggestion my friend!
I actualy was interested for Traverse the Outlands from the moment I saw this card. It was in maybe for a long time.
So, what to cut for it? Maybe Soul's Majesty?
August 27, 2017 11:41 p.m.
Carpet of Flowers - nice card but can be dead draw if your opponents doesnt use islands. Plus from all my game experience your deck almoust never have any problems with mana.
Btw what about Living Wish? It can virtually expand your deck to 110 cards, that gives you many more and diverse options to deal with a given game state.
August 28, 2017 12:04 a.m.
Yes, Living Wish is a good addition(s), I used it in my Kruphix deck, maybe I'll try it here too.
Carpet of Flowers proved its value many times, actually You saw it yourself. In competitive meta it shines even more. But I'll think about it.
August 28, 2017 12:16 a.m.
Heroic Intervention - I would recommend you add this spell to protect your permamnents (especially creatures) from boardwipes and spot removals.
Uncage the Menagerie - what about this one? lets say you put in you will tutor 7 creatures and if you already have Concordant Crossroads on the field and one mana you will be able to put them all on the field in one go.
August 29, 2017 5:40 p.m.
- Uncage the Menagerie - doesnt work as I say before, I didn't correctly read what it does :-P
August 29, 2017 7:11 p.m.
Heroic Intervention is not bad, But what should I cut for it? I was considering a lot of different protective spells, and this one too, and it was always hard to decide what to cut.
August 30, 2017 1:07 a.m.
So I'm confused on where the control tag is correct here. You're not exactly playing Bramblecrush types of cards, so aren't you more midrange?
October 8, 2017 12:04 a.m.
Hi TheRedGoat! And thank you for upvote!
Well, actually, the control tag is here because when the deck was created it run more cards for control. But even now the deck contains a very decent number of cards for board control. But I like your idea for changing it to midrange tag.
October 8, 2017 2:34 a.m.
October 8, 2017 7:45 a.m.
Elvish Piper was in the deck, and it's a good card. The reason why I use Norwood Priestess instead of Elvish Piper is the difference in speed. Priestess can be activated faster than Piper. Another reason is that Priestess is much more convenient to use with untappers (Quirion Ranger and Wirewood Lodge for example), because you dont need an additional mana for reuse of its ability. And a little bonus - Priestess has in its mana cost for devotion (Karametra's Acolyte, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx).
But I do like Elvish Piper, and I would like to use both of them, Piper and Priestess, I will think about it.
October 8, 2017 8:18 a.m.
Me is curious, what decks does your meta/playgroup consist of?
Either way, you should highly consider removing Pathbreaker Ibex and Wild Beastmaster. While both quite easily pump up your team, they pale in comparison to Craterhoof Behemoth. While redundancy is always a good thing to have in an edh deck, neither are strong enough by themselves (i.e. they do not win the game immediately) to warrant inclusion to a "control" deck. Recycle and Praetor's Counsel will do you better.
In this deck, there are plenty of winmore cards. Traverse the Outlands, Viridian Longbow, and Nacatl War-Pride all fit into the category. If you are spending 5 mana to find 8 lands, chances are you are already winning on that turn or going to assuredly win on the upcoming turn. Consider using cards such as Exploration (explosive), Mana Reflection (this on turn 3, if it survives, usually means you win on turn 5), Staff of Domination (combos). You should also find space for the eldrazi titans (kozilek especially as more potent card draw).
There are cards in this deck that don't make sense (some mentioned above), unless you are tuning your deck against specific other decks (i.e. not tfc / pfc / U/x stax)
October 9, 2017 2:53 p.m.
October 9, 2017 10:26 p.m.
Thanks for upvote and for kind words! No I haven't consider Traverse the Ulvenwald! Thanks for suggestion.
Ok, miracle, Thanks for your comment and your suggestions. I will try to answer your questions and clarify my choice of certain cards.
Playgroup - Most often I play against Zur, Purphoros, Xenagos. Sometime I play against Meren, Azusa, Rafiq, Narset etc. So, I cant say that I create decks for some specific environment. On the contrary, I try to make decks as more versatile as posible.
Question about Pathbreaker Ibex and Wild Beastmaster: I realy doubt that someday I will cut Pathbreaker Ibex, its to good in this deck, it is one of the main agro creatures of the deck, it has a lot of strong synergies with so many cards (described in primer) and with Rhonas. When my opponents see him on the battlefield, they begin to fidget nervously in the armchairs and ask each other "Do You have board wipe spell?". You yourself mentioned that redundancy is very important in EDH and I absolutely agree with this. Wild Beastmaster is in the testing mode, was added to the deck about a week ago and havent been tested well enough, but I agree that it could be replaced with something more useful. I will consider some replacemets after more testing.
About winmore cards: Traverse the Outlands - "If you are spending 5 mana to find 8 lands, chances you are already winning on that turn or going to assuredly win on the upcoming turn" - exactly! You will just win on the next turn, and it can happen on turn four easily. Comparing Mana Reflection with Traverse the Outlands I can say that in this deck Traverse the Outlands is better, because its cheaper, provides more safe ramp (dont need to survive a turn) and as You said both of them are winmore. And I prefer to use as a mana doubler Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, tutorable, can be cheated and has a mana denial ability. Nacatl War-Pride is in the testing mode too, recently added, but I see a lot of potencial in this creature! The reasons why it is a good card in this deck described in Primer. Exploration - this deck dosen't draw lands, and the land count is minimal so most of the game Exploration is useless, I tested it a lot. For the same reason I cut Azusa from the deck. Staff of Domination is good for redundency for combos, but It will be a second card wich is useless outside of combo and I don't want it, thats why I run only Mantle in the deck. Win through a combo is plan B in this deck, usualy it wins through agro strategy. Choosing from the Eldrazi titans I would choose only one - Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, he is in Maybeboard for a long time and someday I will try to use him, maybe instead of World Breaker. This deck run very powerful spells for drawing extra cards (especialy with Rhonas early in the game) i like those spells more then Kozilek.
I am familiar with Recycle and it is definitely an interesting card, I will think about using it, in this deck it could be realy fun
So hope I clarified the choice of cards and why they are good/or bad in this deck. If you have any additional questions or suggestions, be sure to ask.
October 10, 2017 5:50 a.m.
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2: Ibex requires a full turn to start doing things. In a 4-player game, somebody will have an answer.
3: If you have a large creature and a lot of little creatures to make your ibex worthwhile, chances are you have just played Avenger of Zendikar and your opponent should Damnation, but because they allowed an avenger to resolve and not the ibex
3: Ibex is 6 mana for a 3/3. This is not what you want to be doing.
4: "Insert Primer Comments Here". His draw synnergies that you mentioned occur during the second main phase. Why are you playing a buff spell that allows you a second mainphase where your opponents are still alive. Life's legacy and garruk are second mainphase and due ot trample you are not sacrificing mid combat.
4.5: If you are attacking with any of your monsters, you should already be winning or playing a better pump spell. Ibex is not the keystone here, avenger/craterhoof/vorinclex/and if you add it Blightsteel Colossus are and would be.5: Triumph of the Hordes wins on the spot and requires less. Ibex does not do either of those.
Expanding upon Traverse the Outlands:
1: If you have a creature large enough to make traverse effective, then you already winning.
2: Assuming that traverse is a worthwhile play (i.e. a creature with power >6), then you are not looking to ramp. You are looking to find a card to seal the deal (Craterhoof Behemoth)
3: In comparison to other more powerful ramp spells, traverse cannot gaurantee you a large amount of mana. Mana Reflection, if played with 6 lands, will probably start you with 12 mana on your next turn (excluding Sol Ring and other variables).
4: If you play Traverse the Outlands and you have a 7/7 Bane of Progress out, chances are that you are looking to capitalize on your opponents lack of artifacts/enchantments, start killing people with your massive creatures, and would rather dig for answers (i.e. Recycle).
5: Traverse the Outlands is very easy to counter with spot removal. While turn 4 Rhonas -> Turn 5 traverse seems like a realistic and legitimately good play, it dies to the rafiq player responding with Swords to Plowshares and you feeling sad that you spent 5 mana on a Rampant Growth.
6: Lastly, traverse only searches for basic lands. This means that you cannot get nykthos, gaea's cradle, glaical chasm, and or boseiju... This is a serious problem.
The rest Show
"This deck doesn't draw lands." Whenever you are drawing a multitude of cards, you will be doing lands. Exploration makes the additional dead draws not as oppressive.
Recycle falls into many traps that I have mentioned when talking about the ibex... except for one. If you are in a losing position, it will put you into a winning position. It is one of the few cards that can help you recover from a Toxic Deluge/Merciless Eviction. Praetor's Counsel is the other card. Recycle is also one of the best draw spells in green, as in it is a 1-card combo. This makes it worthwhile.
If you are wondering about my credibility on mono green, feel free to check out My Mono Green Deck. While it functions differently from yours, it is still mono green and usually reliant on two paths to victory (combo or big creatures).
October 10, 2017 5:18 p.m.
Hi again miracle! And thanks that you still here :)
I am grateful for your interest to my deck and your explanations and opinion.
I have no doubt about your knowledge in mono green decks. All the cards you suggested are great and I am very familiar with them. All that I wanted to say is that some of them is not so good in this deck, and some "not so good" and even weak cards are shine here especily having Rhonas as commander.
Pathbreaker Ibex - he won me many games, he actualy can kill at least one player in one attack having Rhonas by his side. All I am saying is based on my experience playing with this creature. Comparing him with Blightsteel Colossus Colossus has its weaknesses in this build, starting from super high cmc and the fact that it cant be cheated by Norwood Priestess and Natural Order. Triumph of the Hordes was in the deck for a couple of tests. But I'm allergic to "infect" mechanic and trying to win with pure combat damage. But anyway, Your explanations and reasons convinced me to change Pathbreaker Ibex and test something else (maybe Recycle?).
Sorry but I just cant cut Traverse the Outlands this card is super powerful in this deck, You dont need some other creature that makes Travers effective cuz you already have Rhonas (turn 2 usualy online), see this deck with this commander plays a bit different from some other green decks. And Travers can be disrupted, yes (actualy as any spell, and Mana Reflection in particular), considering all enchantment and artifact hate in EDH and super hate Mana Reflection causes it is target number one when it on the table. So, I would prefer having both Traverse the Outlands and Mana Reflection in the deck. I will definitely test Mana Reflection thanks for this suggestion.
Exploration is a good card, but not here, belive me, I tested it a lot, and almost always was desapointed.
Thanks again for all your advices and help!
October 11, 2017 5:59 a.m.
Yup! Be careful bringing this deck to any blue-intensive game/meta, as counterspells will savage your draw spells and you will many times find yourself getting 2for1'd if you are not careful.
Good luck have fun!
October 11, 2017 2:30 p.m.
I don't even wanna talk about the deck. I just want to say that this is the most beautiful deck page I've seen. You are truly a visioinary
October 11, 2017 6 p.m.
I'm surprised you aren't running Regrowth! It doesn't do any one thing on its own, but it's basically a cheaper, harder-to-fetch Eternal Witness. Nothing quite like getting a second chance when a key card is knocked out, you know?
October 11, 2017 6:19 p.m.
xaviermp - Wow, thanks for your kind words, man!
ClockworkSwordfish - Regrowth is realy good, I actualy used Noxious Revival in the deck, it was pretty good too, because it additionaly can disrupt someones reanimation attempt. Well there are so many good cards in green, it is a pity that it is not possible to use them all :). And considering that I have a low count of recursion spells I think you right and I need to find room for Regrowth or even Noxious Revival again. Thanks a lot for suggestion!
October 11, 2017 7:20 p.m.
My pleasure! This deck totally rules - it's fun just to look at. It's easy to forget just how much monogreen can do on its own, so long as you really dig for all of its best pieces.
Also, I'm curious - have you tried Yeva, Nature's Herald in the past? Seems to me you could pull off some pretty nasty tricks by having all of your creatures ready to pop in at instant speed. Pseudo-haste and mid-combat equipment removal thanks to Reclamation Sage and the like are great, but my head's absolutely spinning with the stuff you could do with a Temur Sabertooth.
October 11, 2017 8:53 p.m.
Hey good list you here I love Rhonas. How did you make the page backround a picture in the case of yours it is genesis wave help thanks
October 11, 2017 10:53 p.m.
Thanks ClockworkSwordfish! Yes, monogreen surprised me with its ability to give almost anything for versatile building: ramp, tutors, draw extra cards, noncreature (and even creature) removal, recurcion etc.
Yeva, Nature's Herald was in the deck. Most of the time I didn't want to cast it. The main problem is that when it enters the battlefield, it doesn't change the state of the game in any way for your advantage. Usualy only after one turn she begin to give you some value, oh, and the only benefit from it in the same turn, is that it activates Rhonas (4 power). I can aford to have a creature which requires a full turn for value only if it is realy agressive creature, or does something realy powerful like Champion of Rhonas or Elvish Piper and could be used with haste. But I'll try again her maybe instead of Polukranos, World Eater.
October 11, 2017 11:25 p.m.
I'm trying to get my deck pages to look as good as this... Any chance you could direct me to a tutorial or maybe even this CSS file? I'm having trouble finding a good tutorial that teaches me what I need
October 12, 2017 10:46 a.m.
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