Big Daddy

Commander / EDH Skillville

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Vlasiax says... #1

Looks fine, but I'd add a little more ramp and reanimation spells. Here's my version of The Ur-Dragon deck, maybe you'll find something interesting in this list: Bow before Draconic King!!!

April 28, 2018 7:13 a.m.

Skillville says... #2

Thanks for the input Vlasiax. It's a fairly new deck so I am still working out the kinks. I agree one of the downsides is needing to ramp since all the dragons cost a lot. I use the 3 drop ramp cards because ideally, I'd like to have an opening hand of 2-3 lands with a 3 drop ramp so that puts me where I need but I also don't want to dilute the deck. I enjoyed your list and upvoted it as well, thank you for sharing :)

April 28, 2018 3:13 p.m.

Vlasiax says... #4

Have you considered adding some tutors like Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Enlightened Tutor?
Another card that I'd recommend is Patriarch's Bidding - you don't care that much about others because your Dragons will be the biggest threat :)

May 5, 2018 1:47 p.m.

Skillville says... #5

If you look at my other 5 color lists that are linked I run tutors in all of those. I am trying to not have the same cards in all 5 color decks. What would you suggest to take out for 3 tutors?

May 5, 2018 4:30 p.m.

Vlasiax says... #6

  • Mayael's Aria - I don't see how you can get 20 power creature (maybe go with Aggravated Assault, which with Savage Ventmaw gives infinite combat steps?)

  • Rampant Growth - you have Cultivate, Kodama's Reach and Sakura-Tribe Elder and for me that's too much for only 6 basic lands

  • Sakura-Tribe Elder - speaking of it I'd go for Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

  • Akroma's Memorial - here is just an overkill, because most important mechanics in Dragons are haste, double strike and protection - 2 of them you have from Dragons already and they are a little cheaper. If you need more protection, then I'd suggest Steely Resolve and you have Dragonlord Dromoka and Conqueror's Flail


That's what I'd change for now and see how it works out :)

May 6, 2018 1:55 a.m.

Skillville says... #7

Added Aggravated Assault, Drag the Reincarnated, and Scourge.

May 7, 2018 4:08 a.m.

Vlasiax says... #8

How about Maelstrom Wanderer for some haste and 2 big spells for free? :)

Also for reanimation I'd recommend Patriarch's Bidding and Skyshroud Claim for ramp, because you have here too many 6 CMC spells even if some of them are Dragons that effectively cost 5 with Ur-Dragon

May 18, 2018 3:52 a.m.

Skillville says... #9

I don't like cards that also benefit opponents. I did swap Mana vault for Skyshroud. Sticking to dragons so no wanderer :) i did take your advice and toss in all good tutors :)

May 18, 2018 10:48 a.m.

WhichKing says... #10

You may want to consider Flameblast Dragon as a way to punch through a stalled board, or to pick off annoying weenies.

May 26, 2018 3:49 a.m.

Skillville says... #11

Balefire Dragon, Scourge of Valkas, Silumgar, the Drifting Death, Steel Hellkite, Wasitora, Nekoru Queen, Warstorm Surge, Dragon Tempest, and Legacy Weapon are plenty of removal, but thank you for the suggestion! :)

June 1, 2018 6:36 p.m. Edited.

DwaginFodder says... #12

Kilnmouth Dragon is a beautiful, beautiful thing. Call to the Kindred also does well.

June 2, 2018 11:20 a.m.

Skillville says... #13

I like that dragon over the reincarnated. Might swap it out. That aura is nice too.

June 2, 2018 1:23 p.m.

Vlasiax says... #14

Doesn't this deck lack some cheap targeted removal like Swords to Plowshares or Beast Within?

Also Dromar, the Banisher seems to be too risky, because it can backfire by bouncing back your own creatures - maybe try out Dragon Broodmother?

And one more suggestion about editing: could you use CMC:X command in the deckbuilding section? That would provide better information about mana curve and Avg. CMC

June 2, 2018 1:28 p.m.

Vlasiax says... #15

And why in DRAGON deck there is no Crux of Fate? That's cheap selective boardwipe that doesn't hurt you in any way because you run only Dragons :D

June 2, 2018 1:36 p.m.

Vlasiax says... #16

I'd add Dragonlord Ojutai for draw and because you have only Dragons then Dromoka, the Eternal buffs your team to amazing levels. Another upside is that they are 4 mana Dragons with Ur-Dragon's Eminence ability so you can benefit from them early.

Also your creature count seems to be a bit low, that's why I'd suggest Dragon Broodmother for token generation - I play her myself and must say that EVERY UPKEEP woring works wonders. In pod with 3 other players you generate 3 1/1 Dragons then eat them with token that appears in your upkeep to get 7/7 Dragon for free :D

Signets don't appear for me to be good idea - more versatile would be Fellwar Stone and 3 mana spell Spoils of Victory or if you have money (or patience to wait for reprint) Three Visits. Artifacts can be easily destroyed while lands usually are quite safe and you have access to green so you can benefit from land ramp

If you want to run another reanimation spell then Beacon of Unrest or Unburial Rites are also good options

June 6, 2018 1:32 a.m.

Skillville says... #17

I was thinking about Fellwar stone and Coldsteel Heart. That gives me room for 4 more spots. Ill toss back Dragonlord Dramoka and look into the other options. I appreciate your input Vlasiax.

June 6, 2018 4:07 p.m.

i would say remove the dragon hatchling and furnace whelp and the sarkhans welp. While the Sarkhan welp look good you don't have enough of him to benefit from it. maybe add sarkhan vol he can give haste. Lathliss dragon queen makes dragon when you play dragons. Dragon arch can cheat multicolored dragon for two mana. kolagan storms fury is great as it buffs dmg for each dragon when you go wide. also sarkhan dragon soul is pretty good and can take hate off your dragons. plus sarkhan unsealing would bee great as it ping for dmg for every dragon that is played. other than that nice deck lots of non basic to bad my group runs that green non basic hate card.

September 21, 2018 9:08 p.m.

Osbert says... #19

Cheating of mana cost is probably the most powerful thing you can do for dragons. My Ur-Dragon deck abuses a lot of free summoning mechanics or severely reduces their mana cost.

Cream of the Crop, Sensei's Divining Top, Brainstorm, Sylvan Library, Lim-Dul's Vault, and Congregation at Dawn all set the top of your deck with whatever cards you want. In this deck that's going to be dragons 90% of the time.

Lurking Predators, Descendants' Path, and Intent, The Dreamer all let you play the top card of your library for free or for a severe discount. I also run Wild Pair to slam down multiple dragons a turn. Belbe's Portal, Hunting Grounds, and Quicksilver Amulet also let cheat them into play at instant speed and for less mana then their casting costs. Selvala's Stampede creates a conundrum at the table and usually lets you drop several permanents from your hand into play and get one creature off the top. Fist of Suns and Jodah, Archmage Eternal let you cast anything for 5 which is a significant discount on your commander and other cards.

Alternatively you can run a great graveyard based package with Reanimate, Animate Dead, Strands of Night, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Buried Alive, Entomb, Life from the Loam and other dredge cards and always tutor for Scion and Bladewing to get that all going.

I've always found dragons biggest weakness is their lack of interaction with what your opponents are doing. Aura Shards, Sarkhan's Unsealing, Warstorm Surge, Cyclonic Rift, Toxic Deluge, Cleansing Meditation, Vandalblast, and Austere Command take care of our opponents game plans swiftly with little or no impact on our board.

January 6, 2019 7:54 a.m.

Skillville says... #20

@Osbert, if you play this deck you'll find it runs very smooth as is with zero issues. All of those suggestions are for a different dragon deck design that simply does not fit my playstyle or execute any goals for this deck, and adding any of those would take away from this deck's flow. Thank you for the suggestions.

January 6, 2019 8:10 p.m.

Joker207755 says... #21

January 26, 2019 3:58 p.m.

Skillville says... #22

Joker207755, Icefall is meh, I don't like providing my opponents benefits, and doubling cube isn't good early game.

I try to have impactful dragons, Gauntlet won't benefit all my dragons since 5 colors, and my deck needs to be explosive early on.

Thank you for your suggestions.

January 27, 2019 1:02 a.m.

Joker207755 says... #23

Or I would say my favourite is Cryptic Gateway

January 27, 2019 10:16 a.m.

Joker207755 says... #24

Or a funny one is Guild Feud but I know it’s not the theme but it’s really funny when it works great. I used it in a beast tribal deck and it worked very good.lol

January 27, 2019 10:22 a.m.

Skillville says... #25

I like Cryptic Gateway. I'll add that to my maybe list.

January 27, 2019 12:23 p.m.

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