KrazyCaley's Deckbuilders' Challenge- Negashard (and results from THIS is a deck)

by KrazyCaley

1 February 2010

First, results!

It's funny, when you give people 250 cards to play with, you get to learn a lot about them. You start to see patterns, and pet cards that people have. Certain strategies that are integral to the person's personality, and not just to the deck, start to come out.

Some people go for crazy things, like say, pulling hundreds of elves out with Nissa Revane's ultimate ability. Other people are rebels who buck authority by basically trying to include every tutor in the game that I DIDN'T ban.

But all that aside, we have 11 decks that made the top 10 this time around, paradoxical as that is. We have a tie in 10th place, but first, an honorable mention.

Honorable Mention- blueclay - Dumb

Seriously, just go look at it. How could I not show you that? YOU WILL PERISH.

10 - Tie (22 pts)

l0ki - THIS is a Deck Challenge & time-spiral-timeshifted/squire.jpgSquire - draw, I dare ya

L0ki likes the simple things in life. Creatures and mana. And lots of both. I tried to count how much mana l0ki's deck could conceivably produce in a single turn, but then I decided "screw it" when I had gotten up to about 800 or so when I realized that the final number would be at least double that. Instead of putting all that mana into a truly epic conflux/banefire.jpgBanefire, l0ki just uses his deck to find and cast dudes. Lots and lots of dudes. And if you kill them all, say with a planar-chaos/damnation.jpgDamnation, he finds and casts more dudes. Really, after turn 6 or so, even in a deck with 250 cards, this deck reliably has essentially infinite mana. Good times! l0ki makes his debut top-10 appearance with this entry.

Squire, predictably, was unpredictable. His strategy was to cause his opponent to draw massive numbers of cards, then punish them for it with all the cards in the game that punish opponents' heavy hands, and wish they were fourth-edition/black-vise.jpgBlack Vise, but were never properly motivated when they were children, so that doing 6 damage for 1 mana at the beginning of a game will forever remain a far-off dream. Where was I before I went off on that tangent? Ah, yes. Squire's deck = good. While he runs a ton of counterspells and bounce in order to allay the main drawback of "You're giving your opponent a bunch of cards," I found in playtesting that this deck still had trouble stemming the flow of enemy castings. tenth-edition/boomerang.jpgBoomerang on lands and other such plays to slow down the enemy mana base were critical. Squire has appeared in every top-10 list I've ever published, and doesn't stop here with this, his fourth appearance.

9- i_call_BS - Drawing up a plan... - 23.5 pts

This deck can draw a lot of cards really fast. And it can keep ALL the cards it draws IN its hand. AND it can make that huge hand kill you with * / * creatures where * = cards in hand. And don't forget weatherlight/firestorm.jpgFirestorm. And onslaught/words-of-war.jpgWords of War. And exodus/sonic-burst.jpgSonic Burst. And I would go on, but this was the 250 card challenge, and suffice to say- this deck has a LOT of ways to get things done. I_Call_BS is now a top-10 sophomore with his second appearance.

8- Illiad - Are you afraid of the Dark? - 24 pts

Illiad takes us all back to the days of SNICK with his deck title, but the Midnight Society won't be so angsty and full of teenaged energy and spunk when ACTUAL monsters from beyond the grave start ripping off their delicious, and probably pretty lean, tender flesh. Illiad puts things in the graveyard. Then he gets them out again. It's a classic magic strategy, what with odyssey/entomb.jpgEntomb and odyssey/buried-alive.jpgBuried Alive and all, but it's trickier to pull off than you might think when you have to have 250 cards in your deck. But Illiad dug deep (PUN DEFINITELY INTENDED) and found the cards to make it work consistently. Illiad pulls in his fourth top-10 in four challenges.

7- Siegfried - Dredge Away - 24.5 pts

Dredge is no disadvantage at all to a deck with 250 cards in it, thought Siegfried. And he is quite correct. But showing himself to be a multi-dimensional thinker, Siegfried also included the majority of the cards in the game that give benefits based on some kind of card or another being in the graveyard. (Except for future-sight/tarmogoyf.jpgTarmogoyf. Irony, eh?) Siegfried's powerful entry gets him on the board with his first top-10.

6- Darkness1835 - BIG GUY - 25.5 pts

Darkness1835 shows he can meet a challenge just as well as he can issue one. This deck is big. And I mean that in every sense. Darkness not only EXCEEDED the minimum card limit by a chutzpah-filled 13 cards, but based the deck on big dudes. I mean really big dudes. I mean, this deck is in the running for the "deck with the greatest total power and toughness of all its creatures" award, although we have another entry coming up that also throws its hat into the ring there. Darkness found all those Alara (and to a lesser extent, Lor/Sha) cards that do good things to/with big creatures, whether it's creatures with a power of 5 (as with all those Naya cards), or toughness of 4 (like lorwyn/colfenors-urn.jpgColfenor's Urn), and then put them to good use with a collection of nasty, huge beaters that he casts on a regular basis thanks to lots and lots of ramp. This is Darkness1835's second top-10.

5- ChaosandKellee - Depths 250 - 26.5 pts

You know what a pretty good extended archetype is? HexDepths, which uses zendikar/vampire-hexmage.jpgVampire Hexmage and coldsnap/dark-depths.jpgDark Depths to, well, you know, bring out a flying 20/20 indestructible creature on turn 2. (And when I say "pretty good extended archetype," I mean "format-warping monster of a deck") Chaos&Kel took that archetype, mixed it with morningtide/maralen-of-the-mornsong.jpgMaralen of the Mornsong lockdown, and then shoved in a bunch of transmuters to cleverly avoid my tutor restrictions. The result is a very fast, reliable deck that you'd never suspect of being 250 cards if you just played against it without looking at the giant stack o' cards. This solid entry nets ChaosandKellee his/her/their first top-10.

4- luckyfirefox16 - Must Love Spells - 27.5 pts

luckyfirefox16, if you don't remember, was the Master Deckbuilder who defeated all comers at building a deck with 4x saviors-of-kamigawa/one-with-nothing.jpgOne with Nothing and 4x mirrodin/leveler.jpgLeveler. As you might suspected, the kind of person who can manage to do that can probably find their way around a blue deck. And indeed, Luckyfirefox shows that he knows well the holy trinity of blue- draw, bounce, counter. This deck will do these three things. A lot. And then, sooner or later, it will Polymorph or Telemin Performance itself. And then you will have to deal with conflux/progenitus.jpgProgenitus. conflux/progenitus.jpgProgenitus has protection from you, your mother, your deck, and its stupid face. So good luck with that. Luckyfirefox16 adds his third top-10 to the board.

3- time-spiral-timeshifted/squire.jpgSquire - Big bad blue - 28 pts.

Squire was apparently like me when he saw the Worldwake spoilers. He ignored all the crazy-good vampires, the interesting burn, the new helpful allies, the puzzle of that one Eldrazi artifact, etc. He ignored all of that, and went right for worldwake/quest-for-ulas-temple.jpgQuest for Ula's Temple. So his entry for the contest has 4x worldwake/quest-for-ulas-temple.jpgQuest for Ula's Temple. Then a few counters, and some ramp, and some draw. And then EVERY KRAKEN, SERPENT, LEVIATHAN, AND OCTOPUS IN THE GAME. (Except for the really quite bad time-spiral-timeshifted/leviathan.jpgLeviathan) So yeah, THIS is probably the deck most in the running for "most combined p/t among all creatures." This deck can have a bit of trouble getting the Quest out, but even when it can't, it casts Krakenish things very fast using its ramp. It can even avoid the drawbacks that characterize many leviathans and such with its suite of ability counters. And if Squire DOES draw a worldwake/quest-for-ulas-temple.jpgQuest for Ula's Temple, you lose. Seriously. He WILL be putting down two huge Krakenish things EVERY turn for the rest of the game. He's not going to run out. 250 cards. Seriously. Master Deckbuilder Squire makes his fifth top-10 appearance, which ties him for first with TAMA for most top-10s.

2- $ªmHεiπ - Bringer of the NepHeraLeigatum - 28.5 pts

So, in order, the title references the nephilim (i.e. guildpact/dune-brood-nephilim.jpgDune-Brood Nephilim), the heralds (i.e. shards-of-alara/sphinxs-herald.jpgSphinx's Herald), the lieges (i.e. shadowmoor/boartusk-liege.jpgBoartusk Liege), and the ultimatums (i.e. shards-of-alara/cruel-ultimatum.jpgCruel Ultimatum). What is impressive about this deck is the breadth of its mana base. Samhein can find and produce a ton of different-colored mana, and then he can use it to cast not only all those wonderful cards referenced above, but also crowd-pleasers like alara-reborn/wargate.jpgWargate, conflux/obelisk-of-alara.jpgObelisk of Alara, and so on. Samhein makes his fourth top-10 appearance in style, and with authority, like a Slam Dunk Contest winner.

1- TAMA - Health, Wealth and Knowledge 29 pts

Tama finally breaks through and earns his first Master Deckbuilder title. The entry that did it for him scored high in all categories, but earned a perfect 10 in effectiveness. This deck was killer. It drew and drew until it got a stronghold/dream-halls.jpgDream Halls. Then it kills you. It can draw basically forever using the Dream Halls, cast a bunch of painful stuff using it, and then fetch (if it hasn't drawn it already) a storm spell for the win. And it does this quite reliably despite the fact that it has 383 cards, which makes it a winner not only in effectiveness, but also makes it jibe well with the theme of the competition. TAMA tells us all that not only can he build a good 250-card deck, he can build a good 383 card deck. He can slam down this deck proudly on the casual table when you produce your cute 60-card deck, with its well-tuned type ratios and mana curves, and say ominously, "That's no deck.....THIS is a deck." Tama's victory earns him a place alongside time-spiral-timeshifted/squire.jpgSquire, luckyfirefox16, and mwkelley as a Master Deckbuilder, and keeps him ahead of time-spiral-timeshifted/squire.jpgSquire by earning him his record sixth top-10 appearance. Well done.

Fret not, though, deckbuilders, for your next challenge awaits.


I've been too unkind with you recently, I think. Honestly. Using 4x saviors-of-kamigawa/one-with-nothing.jpgOne with Nothing and 4x mirrodin/leveler.jpgLeveler? 250 cards, but none of the cards that would make a huge deck any good? Yes, sometimes I'm pretty sadistic. But this week we're going to slow things down a bit, relax, and get to know each other in a friendly, casual, after work sort of way. This week, a bit of a more free-range challenge.

Rule 1- Your deck must be extended-legal. That means that, in addition to the 60-card minimum and 4 copies of a card max rule, you can only use cards from certain sets, and that certain cards are banned. To see which sets are legal, and which cards are banned, go here: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=judge/resources/sfrextended

Rule 2- Your deck must be a three-color deck. That is, if I look through your deck, and look at the mana costs of all the cards, I will want to have seen three (no more, no less) different colored mana symbols in the upper right when I finish looking.

Rule 3- Only these three-color combinations are valid- W/B/R ("Oros" colors), U/R/G ("Intet" colors), B/W/G ("Teneb" colors), R/U/W ("Numot" colors), G/U/B ("Vorosh" colors).

Rule 4- You will be graded, as usual, on creativity, effectiveness, and theme adhesion. Theme adhesion will check, among other things, whether you only paid lip service to the "three-color" idea by having two main colors and a splash color, or whether your deck is more fully "three-color."

Submit your deck, as usual, in the comments to this article. This competition will close at the end of February 13, so that we can have the excitement of results and a new challenge on Valentine's Day. Because we badly need it then. Because we're Magic players and will probably die alone and unloved. Good luck!

ChAoZ says...
6:49 a.m. on February 1, 2010

Needs some work to have it fully 3 color, but was working on it anyway

http://www.tappedout.net/mtg-decks/treefolk-6/

Can't seem to get the url shown correctly, when using the brackers :(

squire1 says...
7:50 a.m. on February 1, 2010

ok how did you playtest those? Did you sleep at all?

squire1 says...
8:02 a.m. on February 1, 2010

does rule two apply to hybrid mana symbols?

$ªmHεiπ says...
9:49 a.m. on February 1, 2010

hey! I gots me five top 10 finishes too! pokes the statistician-type people

$ªmHεiπ says...
11:39 a.m. on February 1, 2010

Contest Entry 1 - [Balanced Slivers BWG]

MDragoon423 says...
12:15 p.m. on February 1, 2010

Alright, I think Im actually gonna make more than one this time.

First! - Friendly Enemies.

Illiad says...
1:25 p.m. on February 1, 2010

First entry - Teneb's Junkbox

squire1 says...
1:26 p.m. on February 1, 2010
Illiad says...
1:45 p.m. on February 1, 2010

2nd entry = Teneb's Rhythem

What can i say? I love G/W/B lol.

M457ERSP00K says...
2:07 p.m. on February 1, 2010

Well its been a while since i submitted.. and it seems like playing with allies is the way to go for me. (just messing around, and hey its standard legal even by the close of the event anyway) sorry my mind is in T2 as of late.

ENTRY [Numot Allies]

KrazyCaley says...
2:10 p.m. on February 1, 2010

@squire- No, I don't get much sleep. Especially not when playtesting. Generally I use proxies, or software if proxies would be a bad idea.

@squire- I'll give you guys the benefit of the doubt on hybrid mana. If you have a U/B/G deck and alara-reborn/slave-of-bolas.jpgSlave of Bolas is in there, I won't penalize you, so long as your U/B/G deck doesn't do a bunch of red stuff with red mana, etc.

mattlohkamp says...
2:48 p.m. on February 1, 2010

ha ha, negashard is a good term - I've always wondered what to call a triumvirate of two allied colours and one common enemy colour. 1/2/4? ally/enemy? negashard is what I'm going to say from now on. One of my favorite solid tournament decks (Corey Lege's Blue-White-Red Control) is white/blue/red. You get such an unusual range of answers with that colour configuration.

ChaosandKellee says...
4:16 p.m. on February 1, 2010

It has to be 3 colors or can it be more?????

zimek22 says...
4:33 p.m. on February 1, 2010

Take a look at my infiltrating dreams deck. It is my first contest deck and also the first planar-chaos/intet-the-dreamer.jpgIntet, the Dreamer deck in the contest!

Marcus316 says...
5:07 p.m. on February 1, 2010

First entry: Blood Vengeance

I will probably hit all 5 shards at least once in this challenge. :)

$ªmHεiπ says...
6 p.m. on February 1, 2010

Contest Entry 1 - Balanced Sunforger ok that takes care of URW

$ªmHεiπ says...
6:01 p.m. on February 1, 2010

Oops - that was 2 (cut and paste laziness)

KrazyCaley says...
6:40 p.m. on February 1, 2010

@Chaos- Three colors, no more, no less. Must be in one of the five 3-color configurations specified above, namely, no Bant, Esper, Grixis, Jund, or Naya decks.

-C

Siegfried says...
6:48 p.m. on February 1, 2010

Woohoo! Top 10 with 1 entry!

First deck I post will be WBR.

halogod989 says...
8:44 p.m. on February 1, 2010

first entry hahaha! open to comments

xander574 says...
9:04 p.m. on February 1, 2010

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/edh-grave-robberteneb-the-harvester/

i will add a sixty card deck also but technicallly this works haha

Darkness1835 says...
9:48 p.m. on February 1, 2010
Darkness1835 says...
10:14 p.m. on February 1, 2010
i_call_BS says...
10:33 p.m. on February 1, 2010
Siegfried says...
11:12 p.m. on February 1, 2010
Darkness1835 says...
11:22 p.m. on February 1, 2010

@ i_call_bs: unprivitize your deck.

i_call_BS says...
1:21 a.m. on February 2, 2010

woops. hah thanks

ryant1202 says...
2:16 a.m. on February 2, 2010
Siegfried says...
3:56 a.m. on February 2, 2010
TAMA says...
9:41 p.m. on February 2, 2010

I love you KC. I had already started building these decks before you issued the challenge here they are and they a frikkin mazing (plus they are standard). Childhood Dreams + The Sixth Shard (Serious Competive Deck).

Now for my other three.

i_call_BS says...
9:50 p.m. on February 2, 2010
TAMA says...
4:58 a.m. on February 3, 2010

Poisonous Mill.

Th3_WUBuRG3r says...
1:55 p.m. on February 3, 2010

Aw man, my friends and I already made a cool set like shards but with these tri color "wedges." Wish I could use cards from that...

TAMA says...
7:04 p.m. on February 3, 2010

So did I. Here are the mechanics.

(RGU) Flow (X): When you draw this card you may reveal it and pay (X). If you do you may play it without paying it’s mana cost then draw a card.

(BRW) Bloodletting: Combat damage dealt to other blocking creatures by this creature also cause that creatures controller to lose that much life.

(BGW) Render: Each life you pay when playing this permanent reduces it’s mana cost by 1.

(BGU) Rescind (X): If you would draw a card you may pay (X) instead. If you do return this card from your graveyard to your hand.

(RWU) Ambush (X): Whenever one or more creatures attacks you, if this card is in your hand you may pay (X). If you do put it onto the battlefield. At the end of combat return it to your hand.

Darkness1835 says...
8:45 p.m. on February 3, 2010
Siegfried says...
6:30 a.m. on February 4, 2010

2 things KrazyCaley:

1) What software do you use to test decks? I would love to find a virtual way to test decks, since this house lacks the resources to make proxies (i.e, a printer).

2) Both my decks are being classified as Legacy because of Worldwake stuff. Can you fix this?

mattlohkamp says...
11:50 a.m. on February 4, 2010

you know worldwake won't technically be part of typeII/standard until tomorrow... it wouldn't hurt it add it earlier, I know, but even if you look on Wizards' site, it's not included in the format, or even in Zenikar block, yet.

As for software, I don't know what KC is using, but LackeyCCG has been my magic crowd's software of choice.

Siegfried says...
10:38 p.m. on February 4, 2010

Ah, silly me. Just because I have a bunch of cards from the pre-release doesn't mean the cards are standard-useable yet. Whoops embarassed emoticon.

Shall check that out. Cheers matt =D

Zanven says...
11:02 p.m. on February 4, 2010

Entry for the Negashard Challenge. URG deck, Make 'em say URG!.

Darkness1835 says...
11:20 p.m. on February 4, 2010
honeymomo says...
12:08 a.m. on February 5, 2010

Ohh~ KC's Negashard Challenge Using NUMOT <3~* :3

zimek22 says...
12:25 p.m. on February 5, 2010

This is so much better than my first entry. Take a look at my Favor of Fugue deck.

squire1 says...
8:34 p.m. on February 5, 2010

another one not the axis powers

squire1 says...
10:17 p.m. on February 5, 2010

@ Siegfried try using magic workstation to test out decks

blueclay says...
2:26 a.m. on February 6, 2010
luckyfirefox16 says...
10:41 a.m. on February 6, 2010

I am in love with these three colors. I'd been meaning to find a way to put a deck together with them all for a while- Thanks for giving me the motivation!

R/U/G Negashard

luckyfirefox16 says...
11 a.m. on February 6, 2010

Submission numero dos:

Dirt Cheap

KrazyCaley says...
7:28 p.m. on February 6, 2010

When I'm pressed for time, I do indeed use Lackey's MTG plugin. When possible, I try to hand playtest these with a local group.

-C

squire1 says...
9:12 p.m. on February 6, 2010

another I got suspended

TAMA says...
5:09 a.m. on February 7, 2010

Rescinder.

Elesdee says...
9 a.m. on February 7, 2010

Bleh... Just made a deck that is totally the wrong colors.

I'm linking it here anyway even though it doesn't qualify. Tricolor functionality go

Check it out anyway, maybe you can help me solidify my foray into tri-color decks. I need all the help I can get.

At least I have until the 13th...

Darkness1835 says...
1:28 p.m. on February 7, 2010
TAMA says...
7:21 p.m. on February 7, 2010

The Tamargoyf that ate Christmas.

TAMA says...
7:52 p.m. on February 7, 2010

Oros Rock.

$ªmHεiπ says...
1:02 a.m. on February 8, 2010
TAMA says...
1:27 a.m. on February 8, 2010

RUW Suspend (Serious Competitive Deck).

squire1 says...
2:45 p.m. on February 8, 2010

another paradox mirror

squire1 says...
3:16 p.m. on February 8, 2010
halogod989 says...
8:18 p.m. on February 8, 2010

access. DENIED! comment

squire1 says...
10:32 p.m. on February 8, 2010

had to hit all five. Think I have an extra also. here is what I think is my last one bloodchief sovereign

$ªmHεiπ says...
9:50 a.m. on February 9, 2010

you dont have to test this one - i just though it was funny BUG - JAAD

r1ngo says...
7:38 p.m. on February 9, 2010

Tap that negashard been dormant a while but here is my entry for the negashard contest

r1ngo says...
7:39 p.m. on February 9, 2010

Tap that negashard

squire1 says...
10:06 p.m. on February 10, 2010

not sure why but this one shows as legacy a little help from intet and friends

honeymomo says...
12:55 a.m. on February 11, 2010

Can the next contest have a limit on how many decks you can submit? I think it would be more of a challenge if people focused on making one good deck instead of many questionable ones!~* Also making a new deck from scratch would be nice to include instead of people submitting already constructed ones. I think that would give things a more competitive flavour~ K thanks <3 :D~

TAMA says...
6:02 a.m. on February 11, 2010

I agree with the limit. Otherwise me, squire and a couple of others submit a deck a day. I disagree with the not submitting pre made decks. A lot of decks I make are based on challenges I think up in my head and then build decks for, sometimes those challenges coincide with what KC puts up but I did it first. Examples Unbelievable, Childhood Dreams, Voodoo Shieldstick.

btw tried to use the user:squire thing and it failed.

$ªmHεiπ says...
8:37 a.m. on February 11, 2010

as one of the couple of others I agree with the limit as well, but the 5 in the set nature of the challenge got to me :)

squire1 says...
11:28 a.m. on February 11, 2010

I am also a high submitter, but I think there should be a limit. not a limit of one, but a limit for subsequent chalenges

Zanven says...
3:39 p.m. on February 11, 2010

Thanks for the support. I think it'll make KC's life easier too since they test all the decks themselves. :3~~*

Zanven says...
3:40 p.m. on February 11, 2010

Ohh~~ I stole Zan's computer :S:S ^ comment is honeymomo!! Sorry =_=;;~~

TAMA says...
5:24 p.m. on February 11, 2010

@KC because the actual shards tended to be a 50-25-25 split of colours, is that what ours are supposed to be like for the sake of the challenge.

Illiad says...
7:32 p.m. on February 12, 2010

Oros' Persecution another entry

halogod989 says...
8:15 p.m. on February 12, 2010

had a really good belch deck idea goin thro some older cards. open to comments and this is my last entry :P BURP!

Zanven says...
8:16 p.m. on February 12, 2010

Your deck must be private, halogod989, link doesn't work. Try unprivatizing it?

KrazyCaley says...
2:10 a.m. on February 13, 2010

Comments acknowledged. Next challenge I run myself (rather than the user submitted challenge which is coming up) will have a limit; does three decks a piece sound reasonable?

Also, your deck for this challenge need not have a "focal color." As long as it's got three of the right colors, and there's a decent amount of each color represented, I'm happy.

-C

Zanven says...
2:14 a.m. on February 13, 2010

Three decks sounds fair to me. The initial "oh, this would be cool", the middle "oh wait, this would be even better", and the last minute "I better try this one in case".

halogod989 says...
1:36 p.m. on February 13, 2010

i lied lol got another really good idea and here it is my real final entry lol Life by the Limb

acewilliams says...
6:11 p.m. on February 13, 2010

ex land fall heres my try

Darkness1835 says...
3:04 a.m. on February 14, 2010

lets see those winners KC! good luck all.

KrazyCaley says...
5:21 a.m. on February 14, 2010

It's going to be one of THOSE competitions, given my schedule and the fact that I haven't given half of these a decent play test. Expect a future-sight/delay.jpgDelay. CaleyCo Industries thanks you in advance for your patience while we complete our processing.

-C

TAMA says...
5:39 p.m. on February 14, 2010

@ Zanven but if it's a challenge with five possible good ideas (e.g. Negashard) then it should be at least six (one for each colour combo and one for the GRYW option).

TAMA says...
5:40 p.m. on February 14, 2010

Btw GRYW (Gonna Rock Your World). Just for those who didn't know.

KrazyCaley says...
4:32 p.m. on February 15, 2010

Grading/playtesting still in progress. Lot of it left to do. Should be done soon enough here though.

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