Words of War

Legality

Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Onslaught (ONS) Rare

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Words of War

Enchantment

(1): The next time you would draw a card this turn, Words of War deals 2 damage to target creature or player instead.

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Words of War Discussion

Shiek200 on Mogis Trigger

2 months ago

Just a few cards from my "I hate Magic: The Gathering players" deck, in case you hadn't thought of any of these:

Harsh Mentor

Furnace of Rath

Winter Orb and the other similar artifacts like Static Orb

Trinisphere you're average cmc is above 3, so it'll most likely hurt other people more than you.

Magus of the Abyss might be better than Sheoldred, Whispering One in your deck, since you don't benefit much from reanimation, and it comes out way earlier. Since your commander is indestructible you can simply target him and nothing happens. Really personal preference though.

I know it's a creature, but Herald of Leshrac is a very underrated hate card in my opinion. It won't last forever but slowing down your opponents while ramping yourself even if only for a 2 or 3 turns can be incredibly helpful. Far more so if you can sac those lands.

Not sure what kind of creatures your meta runs but Night of Souls' Betrayal can actually just shut down some decks.

Uba Mask Your deck seems like it doesn't really care what spells it's playing, and like it will pretty much play whatever it draws, so this could be interesting. Can also work with Words of Waste and Words of War if you don't want to exile the card, though you're hurting for card draw so maybe not those haha.

Not all of these are great options but just some food for thought if you hadn't considered them.

TheRedGoat on Hurt - Nekusar Wheels

2 months ago

From personal experience, I can say that the Magus is only worth it if you try to run more creature support, and the same is likely true for Sigil of Sleep.

Personally I like to run Exquisite Blood and Sangromancer in multiplayer games to keep me alive longer. Or if I'm feeling a little crazy I'll play Crumbling Sanctuary.

For your competitive build I'd actually recommend taking out Otherworld Atlas for Words of Waste. The atlas can combo with Mind Over Matter, but that is likely going to be removed on the spot (and be more color intensive), where as Geth's Grimoire and Waste Not are more likely to stick around and synergize with the words of waste to me. It is a more mana intensive card, but the pay off is super worth it in regards to also bypassing some of your own hate effects like Spiteful Visions and Phyrexian Tyranny. Words of War and Words of Wind are the other parts of the cycle like this that you could run but those are less guaranteed to pay off in multiplayer.

I've also utilized Arcane Laboratory to great effect, but that one may be counter-intuitive to your competitive version of the deck.

Daedalus19876 on The Ten Plagues: Locust God EDH | *PRIMER*

2 months ago

TheRedGoat: I hope that didn't sound angry! I just had very little time to (re)type a lot of information.

With regards to Words of War, it can stop the combo, but I am not willing to pay a card to get a Shock. After all, I want to draw everything I can in this deck! :)

Words of Wind is a bit better because it can act as a nonsymmetric stax piece (I bounce a Locust, they bounce something important), but even there it's simply too slow for how this deck currently functions.

Thanks again for your comments :)

TheRedGoat on The Ten Plagues: Locust God EDH | *PRIMER*

2 months ago

If that is curt I'd hate to see you when you're really pissed. But in any case you actually made me realize the main point with Breath of Fury is not about ensuring the creature can get in to any given opponent regardless of their board, but rather just that you'll get to a single opponent that may have been behind.

I had the same lack of perspective about Purphorous not having enough devotion most of the time and about the graveyard shuffle being more important than just having a card to stop you from decking out.

I can further tell now that Retrieval and Leyline are more suited to value spell/probably control based interactive decks. Yours being so fast it just wants to get off the ground first, which feels very similar to some elf builds I've looked up, so I'm not sure that's a good thing.

Lastly, I feel I not only misjudged what kind of deck you were building here, but with Words of War I may have misunderstood that it is not meant to be in a draw mechanic focused deck is it? But rather it would be meant for a deck that tries to play off having no resources in hand? Like a Hazoret the Fervent to name a recent example put out by WotC. Or when you say inefficient did you just mean that because you personally are going for a fast paced build as opposed to something slower?

Daedalus19876 on The Ten Plagues: Locust God EDH | *PRIMER*

2 months ago

Apparently I can't actually OPEN those accordion folders I created, because clicking them just hyperlinks to the users in question. Dammit.

Here's the gist of it, abbreviated (sorry):

RazortoothMtg: I felt I had a few options, but I needed to be able to use that combo even when holding up 0 mana. That leaves me 2 options: a free spell like Snapback or Pyrokinesis, or Simian Spirit Guide+Pyroblast. The former seemed better, and I got to kill a Kaalia deck with Snapback so I like it, hehe.

TheRedGoat: Sorry for how curt this is about to sound; I lost probably 700 words in those damnable spoiler boxes above :/ In short:

Words of War is inefficient and requires extra setup alas. I find Leyline of Anticipation to be subpar in this case, and slots are tight. Breath of Fury goes infinite with a draw outlet as long as I have any one undefended opponent, but I cut it anyway because it's too easy to disrupt. My deck is fast enough now (average T4 win) that Mystic Retrieval is too much mana. Hostility works for a couple combos in place of Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, but it's a very bad substitute because it won't save you from decking yourself if the effect in question draws more than 1 card. Also, you can't use Hostility as recursion to re-draw your GY. I would honestly try to get Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre if you want to cut a few $$s, but you do need an "Eldrazi shuffle" for the deck to function right. Purphoros, God of the Forge is virtually never a creature (barely have enough devotion in the deck to turn him on) so I'm not running Curiosity. I did add Mind Over Matter for the Niv-Mizzet combo tho. And when you do make that more casual Locust God deck, feel free to link me! :)

Again, sorry for the curtness. If you want more detail feel free to ask for clarification.

TheChaosVault on Kederekt Parasite

2 months ago

Good news and bad news:

The good news: Almost every piece of the deck is relevant. I'm assuming that Kher Keep and Ghitu Encampment are for blocking purposes, and that your burn is for removal or maybe occasional lethal, since your wincon is Adamaro and the Kederekt Parasite engine.

The bad news: You don't have very good card choices. While Lightning Bolt and Terminate are solid cards, I've never seen Searing Blaze outside Pauper. You have a lot of ETB tapped lands, which could result in having no turn one plays. Rakdos Carnarium and similar lands are really only good if you can untap them with something like Candelabra of Tawnos and Rocky Tar Pit is much worse than Bloodstained Mire. In Legacy, you're going to need Badlands or at least Blood Crypt. As for the nonland cards, many of them are interesting but irrelevant. Urza's Armor is a great way to counter the damage from Spiteful Visions, but the fact of the matter is that without any ramp, you're almost never going to cast a 6cmc card before the game ends. Kederekt Parasite itself needs a red permanent on board, which can be removed in response to triggers. And the Words cycle, including Words of War, while a cool idea, are a never going to be good because, especially in Legacy, paying mana to not draw cards is a very bad idea.

Basically, the deck works, but is far too slow for a format in which decks can consistantly win earlier than turn 4. My guess is that this is meant for casual, in which case this is a really cool idea that would definately work. If this is the case, for future reference, Casual and Legacy are two very different formats.

DrukenReaps on Is there an efficient way ...

2 months ago

playing your whole deck is almost exclusively a blue thing, excluding hilarious combos like above. If you would simply like enough card draw to keep up with the discard I recommend looking through this page

https://edhrec.com/commanders/neheb-the-worthy

a number of good options presented there include Waste Not, Avaricious Dragon, Erebos, God of the Dead, Syphon Mind the list goes on.

Some of the better options for you though might be playing straight from the library like Planar Bridge and maybe pick up Words of Waste or Words of War so you are no longer drawing unless you want to.

TheRedGoat on The Ten Plagues: Locust God EDH | *PRIMER*

2 months ago

Okay, so I have a possible card suggestion in regards to the "decking yourself" problem in the form of Words of War or also Words of Wind. Additional problem to this is I'm unable to begin guessing where you would make space for either one in addition to Laboratory Maniac (if you even found it worth it). Truthfully I'm more concerned about finding space for Leyline of Anticipation and/or Vedalken Orrery, but the above comments distracted me.

For the way you have your build set up, I'm personally curious how Breath of Fury is able to go infinite the way you describe when you have, as far as I can tell, no way to guarantee that the enchanted creature is getting damage in each time. I might also wonder if, in regards to Faithless Looting in particular, you might not be better off with more spell recursion effects like that of Mystic Retrieval or even Recoup? If nothing else, wouldn't Kozilek be able to be replaced by say Hostility or Guile in regards to the shuffle effect? "Butcher of Wallets" is just as apt a name for Kozilek in this instance.

Lastly, I noticed some people have suggested Curiosity, even though Ophidian Eye is better, to go with your Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, but with Purphorous possibly being a creature at the same time that you have the your commander, he can wield the enchantment/s just as effectively as the dragon (I think). As a side note, cause I got curious and distracted again, Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius + Illusionist's Bracers + The Locust God + Phyrexian Altar will win the game/clear the board. That also works if you had Mycosynth Lattice and Ashnod's Altar (or I guess Krark-Clan Ironworks at that point) instead of the bracer's and phyrexian altar.

Btw, I don't have it on the site yet, but I am trying to brew a more casual creature-centric locsut swarming deck. I'd love to get your opinion on it later if you're up to it by (estimated time who knows when).

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