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Woolly Thoctar Discussion
1 month ago
"I wish that artifacts lands, entwine, and Phyrexian mana were lower, because I am very fond of them due to their power and versatility."
Yeah, that's why they're rated so high. Because they are so powerful and versatile.
Indestrucible is ok, It's a very Timmy effect which makes newer players feel safe, but generally indestructible stuff is over costed or very vanilla.
I think with equipment, they will always have it to some extent, however the quality of the equipment varies. There are sets which are very equipment heavy (SoM is a perfect example) but a lot of sets have maybe one good equipment and that's it. So it's not so much a questions of "Will we haev equipment" but more "Will the set focus on equipment?"
As for the Alara blocks which bring cascade into the fold, the storm scale is somewhere between a 10 and an 11. Similar to Annihilator, I doubt we will ever see cascade happen in standard again. It's just too much value (as opposed to Annihilator which is big impact becuase everybody hated playing against). I mean, the standard deck of the day was Bloodbraid Elf cascading into Woolly Thoctar.
1 month ago
Changes I'm currently musing...
Cards to consider replacing:
Gratuitous Violence and/or Furnace of Rath
~~ Triple red is risky. We could run an Enlightened Tutor instead of one, but we will be a turn slower. Or we can add the tutor AND keep these. Is there such a thing as too many doublers in this deck?
~~ Can be a blowout for you or the opponent if responded to. Not as on theme with the permanent buffs/damage enablers.
~~ Amazing tutor plus a body, and we run swords, but totally off our optimal curve. With all our equipment, it's probably too good to cut though.
~~ No evasion, but a huge pump on Saskia and shuts down instant speed interaction. Still, is that good enough? Are greaves just better?
Card to consider playing:
~~ Counterspell resilience that works on the curve and hits for 4 power too. No fancy evasion though.
~~ Non-bos aside....uh....these things are amazing fro protecting our Commander or if we aren't on curve and need to recover from a slower start.
~~ Amazing power on curve, no evasion no utility.
~~ Net card loss, but turns into another instance of any enchantment OR artifact in the deck. A turn slow for our doublers.
Duelist's Heritage and Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder
~~ I love double strike in this deck, but Heritage isn't a creature and Tarl is slow on the curve. They are both awesome, but the doubler effects make bigger numbers.
2 months ago
I think if I were to change anything in the deck, it would be to cut the Woolly Thoctars from the sideboard. Maybe consider adding in Rhox War Monk in place of it? It should have the same upsides (even with loss of 2 power) and it would be even better against burn and damage based aggro. Sweet deck, +1!
4 months ago
It has come to my attention that this deck is extremely vulnerable to Lightning Bolt. When I built the original Safari deck for Standard during Alara block, Lightning Bolt was there too since it had just been printed in M10. My solution at the time was to play 4 Rhox War Monk, 4 Woolly Thoctar, and 3 Wilt-Leaf Liege. I'm not sure those are still the best options, but I am considering them and whether some of these should go in the board or the main or a combination of the two. Let me know if you think of a better answer to bolts!
4 months ago
4 months ago
Here's my Woolly Thoctar deck: Woolly Thoctar Pauper Fun! It was built initially for multiplayer, but it's found a home as a 1v1 deck for now. It's an aggro list that chews through a single opponent, even at 30 life and 16 commander damage. I am still curious how it performs in multiplayer though.
4 months ago
I used to play a similar deck. Maeyael tended up attract a lot of hate though. So I'd think a little more about protecting her or speeding up her ability. Swiftfoot Boots would do both. There are plenty of other beasts that wouldn't mind he proof/haste.
Woolly Thoctar is a fantastic card, if you can find room in the maindeck for it, you won't regret having a 5/4 three drop.
7 months ago
Hey mr_funk I appreciate the suggestions. However, I do disagree with removing Rancor. With typical auras, getting 2-for-1'd is certainly a problem, but since Rancor comes back to our hand when it hits the graveyard from play and it only costs to cast again, I don't see it being a problem at all. It also gives trample to my creatures which is quite relevant, and it helps to activate Rhonas the Indomitable since only Woolly Thoctar and Ghalta, Primal Hunger do so alone.
Regarding Collected Company, the more I think about it, the more I think this deck is actually not the right deck for Coco. For Coco to be really used to it's maximum potential, I would typically want 25-28 targets at least and I only have 22 in this deck. I've been thinking of replacing it with Lifecrafter's Bestiary. Since my creatures are for the most part cmc 1 or 2, paying an extra shouldn't be much of a problem. If I do decide to stick with Coco, I will definitely make a change to my sideboard, but I want to hear other opinions on Coco Vs. Lifecrafter's Bestiary first.