Tempest Drake

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Tempest Drake

Creature — Drake

Flying, vigilance

DemonDragonJ on Commander Masters Previews and Speculation

10 months ago

Reprints of Augury Adept and Tidal Barracuda would be nice, and I also would like to see Ancient Spider and Tempest Drake reprinted in the new border style, as well. Also, given that Thunder Spirit is on the reserved list (which makes no sense, at all), I wish that WotC would reprint Sky Spirit more frequently, since it is such a nice and elegant creature.

legendofa on My cognitive dissonance around multicolor …

1 year ago

I believe that (effect in color A) + (effect in color B) should equal (combination of effects in multicolor AB). For example, deathtouch is a green-primary ability. First strike is a red- and white-primary ability. Therefore, a red-green or green-white creature with deathtouch and first strike is reasonable. This position is somewhat supported by a Great Designer Search test question, whose answer stated in part that a black-green creature with flying and vigilance is reasonable. The answer proved controversial, but was repeatedly and vigorously defended as officially correct. This position is also supported by cards such as Needlethorn Drake, Adult Gold Dragon, Kunoros, Hound of Athreos, and many, many others.

However.

There are no red-green or green-white (and no other color) creatures with deathtouch and first strike. Nor is there a (legal) black-green creature with vigilance and flying. The empirical evidence is completely missing. Also, the more complete GDS answer specifically states that a green-black creature with flying and vigilance (and no other abilities) is a better creative choice than a white-blue creature with flying and vigilance (and no other abilities). Before that question had been asked, answered, criticized, and defended, Tempest Drake was a card. Afterward, Warrant / Warden became a card. So not only is the empirical evidence missing in these cases, it seems to point in exactly the opposite direction as official philosophy, and my opinion that A + B should equal AB.

Instead, in practice, it seems that A + B is actually less than AB. There are ability combinations that do not exist in certain color pairs, even if each individual part of the ability combination is fairly represented by separate colors.

I see two resolutions. The first is that my belief, and the official position, is incorrect, and that a red-green "deathstriker" or a black-green vigilant flyer shouldn't exist. The second is that these ability combinations are feasible, and they simply haven't been printed yet for some reason.

What's the best way out of this? Which resolution is better, or is there a third option I'm not seeing?

Reference:

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/make-choice-part-1-2018-02-12

Question #28

legendofa on How is Camaraderie a Bend?

1 year ago

Mark Rosewater also considers Smothering Tithe a bad break, and I agree with him on this one.

https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/667294450431705088/it-can-with-the-following-restriction-white (outside links not enabled, apologies)

Yeah, the blue examples I used earlier are old, but they very clearly demonstrate what happens when flavor takes precedence. And while there might not have been any breaks quite that bad for a long time, breaks still happen with some regularity.

So while they might try to avoid letting flavor dictate mechanics, it still happens.

vigilant fliers ever made: zero (maybe Golgari Death Swarm, but that's a meme card referring to this incident). vigilant fliers (with no other abilities) before Grand Designer Search 3: Tempest Drake. vigilant fliers (with no other abilities) since GDS3: Warrant / Warden. I'm not trying to hijack the thread with this note, just demonstrate how the color pie and it's intended use is frequently up for interpretation, and even the official color pie manager doesn't always seems to get it right.

DemonDragonJ on Modern Horizons Announced

5 years ago

I also think that Tempest Drake , Fungal Shambler , Sky Spirit , and Prophetic Bolt would be great to see in this set, as well.