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Stone Quarry Discussion
5 days ago
I have purchased the following cards:
Fellwar Stone replaces?
Open the Armory replaces?
Commander's Sphere replaces?
Armillary Sphere replaces?
Quarantine Field replaces?
Help me decide what to remove!Other suggestions are welcome too. Thanks!
1 week ago
New to Magic? If so, Welcome to the Fold.
Your deck isn't as terrible as you think. You have a decent mana base. Your mana-curve isn't the worst, and you have some decent synergy going.
So how do we make this more efficient...
If you removed all three, you'd have room for a 2nd Glory-Bound Initiate. It's personally one of my favorite Exert creatures. In fact, if there are cards you know you want to see every game, I'd make room for 4 of them. If you did that, you wouldn't need the lifelink from Tenacity and could trade to something like To Arms!. Cheaper, and you get to draw.
I'd also consider shaving the Nef-Crop Entangler. It doesn't trade well if you need it for defense. 1 toughness when it's not exerted seems low.
I'm not sure what your budget is like, but this is where the suggestions can get pricey, depending how serious you want to get with this build.
Lands. As mentioned, you're missing to flashback. You could break banks and pick up Godless Shrines and fetchlands Marsh Flats... but if you're keeping it budget, I'd just add 4 Evolving Wilds, a Swamp or 2, and drop the Stone Quarrys. They're coming in tapped anyway, and you can pull the basic of your choice.
Anyway, sorry for the novel. I hope this makes sense, and is helpful.
2 weeks ago
Putting white in is good and all, but with a mixture of the limited mana you have, you're going to have a very hard time getting all three of your colors out to be able to cast your big dinos.
I've seen RG Dinos be much more consistent and so much faster than Naya dinos.But, if you wanna stick with Naya, here's a few suggestions I can give:1. Take out a lot of your dinos. If you're going Naya, you need a very strong, very fast creature base that is reliable and curves out well. I recommend keeping in: Otepec Huntmaster and Kinjalli's Caller. The rest can be taken out and swapped with things such as: Carnage Tyrant, Gishath, Sun's Avatar, Regisaur Alpha, Ripjaw Raptor, etc. The dinos that are really good.
Your creatures are hardly ever going to die. They are so freakishly large that you do not need Heroic Intervention, that slot could be used for more dinos (if you go tribal, 28 minimum cards of your tribe)! And you also don't really need Rile because odds are your opponents are going to have to block to stay alive triggering the Enrage. Slash of Talons is just meh. You definitely want two more Savage Stomp and two more Commune with Dinosaurs. Huatli, Warrior Poet is lackluster at best, she doesn't help your tribe's advantage of being able to be far bigger than anything on the field.
1 month ago
Some notes on your creatures:
First of all, you have mostly flying creatures... It proves great against cards like Island Sanctuary (although not very popular), but just a disaster waiting to happen against cards like Hurricane. In my opinion, a dragon deck should have 50-60% flying, and 40-50% Non-Flying creatures to prevent such from happening
You mana curve doesn't look too great. So let's take a look at this from a mathematical perspective, with your current setup you have 27/60% lands, and thus 33/60% spells. So 45% of the time, you will draw a land, and 55% you will draw a spell. Pretty self explanitory, isn't it?
Now let's add in what your creatures cost. You have no 1 drops, except of course Earthquake (which if you take into consideration the first paragraph of this comment, I would take out), which isn't even a 1 drop. That's usual if your not running an aggro deck.
You have 12x 2 drops, which is good for a nice starter, although to pull off casting these on turn 2, you gotta have regular lands that don't enter the battlefield tapped, I usually find that the best ways to pull this off is placing a land that taps as it enters the battlefield, like Stone Quarry, on the first turn, and placing a regular Plains on the second turn immediately allows me to start playing 2 mana cards, and gives me a good variety with what to cast. We can consider the increase of the 2 drops as our "mana peak", as it's the highest amount of CMC of your deck
3x 3 drops. This should really be somewhere up in the numbers, maybe 8, if you want a good momentemous deck, where your able to cast spells most turns.
0x 4 drops. This, in accordance with 2-3 drops, should be at around 4-6 cards. Keeping the momentum once again, as this will usually be (fastest possible) at turn 4.
Now let's just combine your 5-8 drops. You peak at 9x 5 drops, and keep steady up to 8 drops. Of course this includes all your key cards, but in a sense a deck should only need a couple key cards. Try removing some of the high drops that you have multiples of, as having higher chances of drawing that high-mana card in the starting hand is much worse than having higher chances of casting a decent low-mana card each turn and surviving until you get enough mana and draw that card.
So let's take into a good mathematical aspect, as seen above. You have a 45% chance of any card being a land, right? So on average you should have 3 mana in your hand on any given card draw. GREAT! You peak at 2 drops, so by the second turn you should somewhat be able to cast a good portion of your deck (well, with a rainbow (5 color) deck this will be harder to achieve, one aspect why 2 color decks are popular). By turn 6, you should have gained about 5 mana. On most games, turn 6 is when a lot of things kick into action, and spending all your mana to cast that one 8 mana creature, or that one 7 mana creature, will just completely get you screwed.
A good example of what proper mana-curves should look like can be found on any good deck, like Gideon, Amonkhet Paladin, or Mairsil, the Pretender l JLK (note its 100 cards), (see mana curve graph) where there is an invisible curve of converted mana costs of the cards. Beginning deck builders should be good with peaking theirs at 2-3 (which you did well with), and shouldn't have a spike at any later mana cost, to keep from you holding on to a good number of cards in your hand, just waiting for that last land to show up, and your opponent slowly bringing your life down to 0 (one of the worst situations in my opinion). Best way to help that is to keep higher mana cards to at least 1-3 by the time you get to 8 mana
Feel free to ask any questions, and hope you can improve your deck, or at least further decks you make!
1 month ago
Boros has Inspiring Vantage and will have Stone Quarry (from the Huatli PW deck) in standard, so it has 2 duals, though the combination of them is weaker than the duals that will be in for allied colors.
1 month ago
The cycle of uncommon ETBT lands from OGW and SOI have all been downshifted to Common as of Amonkhet. Meandering River, Submerged Boneyard, Cinder Barrens, Timber Gorge, Tranquil Expanse, Forsaken Sanctuary, Highland Lake, Foul Orchard, Stone Quarry, and Woodland Stream.
1 month ago
Hi yes i ment Gideon, Martial Paragon. He is quite usefull in the planeswalker deck.
And (just as was also pointed out to me) upgrade your Manabase with Stone Quarry or something similar.And you have nothing which gives you card advantage.
1 month ago
As the stated in the previous comment, I would replace Stone Quarry with either Needle Spires, or, even better as Needle Spires will only be legal in Standard format until September 29, Inspiring Vantage. If you don't care about staying "legal" in a particular format, then Needle Spires is fine.
Otherwise, I agree with the previous comment. Good start! Good luck with the deck!