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Land — Lair
When Rith's Grove enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you return a non-Lair land you control to its owner's hand.
Tap: Add (Red), (Green), or (White) to your mana pool.
Rith's Grove Discussion
1 month ago
These are all specifically Naya lands. Not lands that only add two of the three colors such as Shocks and Guilds.
3 months ago
Picked up a Painter's Servant - just in case :)
4 months ago
Deck Edit 2:
Avatar of Slaughter out -> Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger in. I decided that the Avatar of Slaughter could backfire against me as much as help me as it gives ALL creatures double strike (including my opponents). As Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger very much benefits me, it seemed like an automatic replacement.
Skyshroud Elf out -> Conduit of Ruin in. Both of these cards are a form of ramp. Yes, the Elf can help me early on, but I felt the Eldrazi search capability of the Conduit of Ruin as well as making first creature spells I cast 2 cheaper was too good to ignore. In addition to this Conduit of Ruin is searchable by Mayael.
Vagrant Plowbeasts out -> Avenger of Zendikar in. Although the Vagrant Plowbeasts served a very good role in the deck, and one that I am not yet 100% sure that I want to loose, the effects of dropping an Avenger of Zendikar seemed too good to miss.
Worn Powerstone out -> Mirari's Wake in. In the few games that I have had with this deck, the card draw is great - the only thing that can hold it back is access to mana. With the addition of Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger and Mirari's Wake I hope to both drop creatures onto the battlefield with Mayael, as well as hard-cast should the need arise. In addition to the mana access, the +1/+1 will also help to boost the presence of the Plant tokens put onto the battlefield with Avenger of Zendikar .
Finally, to smooth out the mana a little bit more, I did the following changes (there seemed to be too much red, and sometimes not enough white).
10 months ago
Thanks hkhssweiss ! So I have noticed in 3-4 player EDH, if I can't draw enough mana ramp and Uril Auras in time, the board state could very well have a few 10/10 fatties and 30 artifact tokens all pumped with +X/+X. I also consistently run out of cards in hand around turn 8. I either have a opening hand full of mana ramp and lands, or some lands and great auras, but for those times when I can't win early game, I need to Day of Judgment or Constant Mists. Even if I get Uril souped up, my opponents find way to bounce/sacrifice/prevent any creatures to attack.
I am trying to find the balance of: play enough ramp/aura draw cards so then I can swing before anyone has a chance, therefore I don't need to reset the board VS take a few more turns to draw for those game-winning cards, but in trade draw a wrath that may control the board to justify my taking a few more turns. I have lost to tokens/fatties damage after swinging with Uril at one person and not able to kill ALL players, so I have found that I need some way to survive another turn and keep Uril on the field.
I am planning to buy Sylvan Library (on my SCG shopping cart), and Hunter's Insight definitely syncs with Uril swinging ANYTIME (or even a turn 1 Serra Ascendant, which I have Aura'd up turn 3-5 and won.
Sage's Reverie is conditional like Daybreak Coronet, but for , I get some card draw out of it and vanilla "+X/+X damage". At most I have seen Uril with 4-5 enchantments and I already can kill someone at that point, so I don't know if it's the best 4 mana for (at most in my situation) 4-5 cards.
Every time I think about adding the enchantresses, I can't think of what I would take out. Manalith is already covered by Darksteel Ingot, Eldrazi Conscription is win more, Boros Garrison, Selesnya Sanctuary, and Gruul Turf bounce a land, but they still produce 1 more than Rith's Grove, so maybe I'll lose the Rith's. Acidic Slime is great with the deathtouch and destroy x, so it's a good blocker AND can take back an Aura Graft'ed mana reflection.
Blessing of the Nephilim and Ethereal Armor are great vanilla damage boosters. Blessing adds a guaranteed +3/+3, while Ethereal on it's own gives +1/+1 and first strike, but will need 2 other attached auras to add the +3/+3 that Blessing gives. Now Uril isn't swinging with only an Ethereal armor, so as long as Uril has 2 other enchantments, we get the equivalent damage, AND first strike. Having both on Uril would total +9/+9 for Uril for only , but without a trample Rancor or Shield of the Oversoul, I'm not swinging for lethal yet nor getting damage past blockers.
What I do want to consider is adding in more cards that give extra combat phases like Aggravated Assault. Maybe Seize the Day or World at War since they have flashback/rebound, or Combat Celebrant since it's only , but it has to survive a turn on the field.
I recently mainboarded Sigarda, Host of Herons since I hate sacrificing an indestructible Uril, and I can always Aura up Sigarda and swing, but I may consider swapping sigarda out for Tajuru Preserver since it's cheaper for the same 'prevent sacrificing' effect and can be cast early game, but I lose a hexproof flying swinger.
I also mainboarded Pariah as an alt way to prevent/redirect damage. I slap it on an opponent's indestructible or fat creature and now they have to either destroy the aura or remove their own creature before being able to deal damage to me. I know I could run creatures that "when damage is dealt to it, do X", but I would have to have both of those cards on hand to get the benefit, and unless I made it indestructible, it's only giving me utility 1 turn. Ghostly Prison also deters tokens/weenies from swinging at me since the opponent can't pay for all of them, and mana-strapped opponents with large creatures may want to save their mana and instead swing at the other opponent. I kept an opponent from swinging his fatty at me with my Soul Snare and I had a Moment's Peace in hand for the next turn after I popped soul snare.
Any thoughts on cards I can cut/replace?
1 year ago
Some cards to consider adding to this deck.
Where Ancients Tread and Always Watching both help with direct damage and giving you untapped critters. Paradox Engine seems wasted in a creature focused deck like this, save it for a Spellslinger deck with tonnes of Mana rocks. That or consider upping the number of removal spells you play in order to trigger it more often Swords to Plowshares Naturalize etc etc Curse of Bounty could come out to make room for such and give you more bang for the buck without helping your opponents, unless the goal is ganging up on the local Archenemy,ex or otherwise. ;)
Speaking as a fellow HULK SMASH Stomp deck player we need to look at your Mana Base without breaking the bank.
Considering the following lands that can fix your color fix needs without always entering tapped. Cinder Glade Canopy Vista Spire Garden Bountiful Promenade Rith's Grove Jungle Shrine and Naya Panorama are all useful, relatively cheap compared to say True Duals or Shocklands, and can speed up your ability to play Maya and use her ability. I'd prioritize these over your lands that enter into play tapped by first removing the ones that enter tapped and do nothing else, Guildgates, then replace ones that either only add one life or cost 2 mana to cycle, and finally the last enter into play tapped lands I would replace are the scry lands. Scrying is handy indeed when we aren't running tutors or heavy card draw.
Speaking of which tutors and card draw Land Tax and Greater Good would both work well in this deck. As would Altar of Dementia these give you the ability to respond to things like missed land drops, board wipes, enchantments that lock down or steal your creatures, etc. Like oh you want to Mind Control my Zacama, Primal Calamity? Nope, Response, go ahead and mill 9 cards instead and send that wasted Mind Control to the graveyard.
1 year ago
I also have another question - what are your thoughts about rest of the fetchland cycle (ZEN Fetches) and Lairs, especially: Darigaaz's Caldera and Rith's Grove?
Another way of very efficient ramp could be Exploration and Crucible of Worlds in case someone blows the table with Armageddon or things like that
1 year ago
Well at a glance I can see that you have only two creatures below 4 CMC and they're Birds of Paradise and Urborg Elf, so depending on what kind of decks you play against, that might be an issue.
Is mana/ramp/color fixing a problem you encounter? The three-color tap lands (Jungle Shrine, Mystic Monastery, etc. might be good for you, or perhaps the lairs (Rith's Grove, Treva's Ruins, etc.). Sylvan Caryatid is better than Urborg Elf in that respect. Commander's Sphere is mana and card draw. Oh, Command Tower will help. There's also Cultivate and Rampant Growth, for more Kodama's Reach-type effects.
Also, in 5 colors you have access to all the awesome modal charms like Boros Charm and Naya Charm and Bant Charm (obviously there's a lot of options, but those are some good ones for starters). They offer utility in a very flexible way.
You've got a bunch of cards that kind of want an to do different things. I'd suggest taking a look at what you want your deck's win condition to be and tailor it a bit more towards achieving it specifically. For example, is Revel in Riches an important part of your strategy, because if you aren't going specifically for treasures, there's better ways of fixing your mana. I realize you also have Hellkite Tyrant, so if you play against a lot of Pirate decks, that might actually be a pretty ok strategy.
By the way, your list currently has 2 Cyclonic Rifts.
1 year ago
Hi, I am playing a 5C Scion deck and if you want to play 5C. Land and mana base if everything. But when you focus on 3 and splash 2 it helps a lot. Some lands that can be very useful.
Cheap to buy, do not come into play tapped and you can tap a land before returning it to your hand. Also, yes pain lands are a good cheap option too.
Also if you are interested my deck is called who says 5 is too much? seems a little slow but it has proven very consistent in multiplayers and team events. At our communities and among my friends this is my deck they fear most.
hope it helps
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