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Wither (This deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.)
Puncture Blast deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
Puncture Blast Discussion
3 months ago
Efficient creatures with Infect is a strange thing to discuss because of Infect's inherent massive difference between damaging creatures and damaging players. And I think this is the reason why Infect is such a hated mechanic by many.
You can keep playing new creatures to block Infect-sources, that's a "renewable" resource. Poison counters is not something you can interact with (in a positive way) so once it's there, you cannot really do anything about it.
Infect also has the fundamental flaw that it plays its very own sub genre of a win condition and doesn't interact well with many other mechanics in the Magic universe. It plays extremely well with pump effects, because it basically has a hard cap of 10 damage dealt to a player and we're home safe.
However most Infect creatures are either blockable or are too heavy to play around as a win condition. I guess that's why you say the only efficient Infect creatures are Glistener Elf and Blighted Agent . One can win by turn two with pump spells before the opponent can reasonably have a chance to put down a blocker or deal with it, and the other the opponent cannot block, so it doesn't have to be thrown down before the match really starts.
You could just as easily have said Blight Mamba , Flensermite , Ichorclaw Myr , Lost Leonin , Necropede , Plague Myr or Plague Stinger . All of those are 2 CMC 1 power creatures with Infect (well Lost Leonin has 2 power). They have all the same basic characteristics as Glistener Elf , except they cost 1 mana more. Is the difference between a 1 mana and 2 mana creature with the same basic characteristics with Infect really that big? Apparently so, as those creatures requires a whole turn more to get in position to whack for lethal and they don't have evasion (with exception of Plague Stinger , who is just in the wrong colors for efficient fast lethal smacks). In this time the opponent have had a fair chance to drop a blocker or kill the creature and that's just not good enough for Infect. Because Infect is all about dropping a low cost creature with Infect and win the turn after. If it cannot do that, it doesn't function all too well.
Such a huge margin is present for Infect and that's a contributing factor to why the mechanic is such a blow out for many players.
I'm a huge fan of Shadowmoor and Eventide's Wither mechanic. It was an interesting way to interact with large creatures, but as Berry notes, the mechanic kinda felt too weak to actually matter.
It was interesting as well to have spells with Wither Puncture Blast as it effectively read; deal 3 damage to a player or planeswalker or give a creature 3 -1/-1 counters.
I do hope they consider bringing Wither back, but you wont see me hold my breath for Infect's return. The mechanic is in my eyes fundamentally flawed.
According to MaRo and his Storm Scale article (https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/storm-scale-mirrodin-and-scars-mirrodin-blocks-2018-06-11) , he is more optimistic about Poison counters return than he is Infect.
1 year ago
I love the overall idea. Mine is very new and rough around the edges (haven't even picked up a sol ring for it yet) but I tried to put in some options to make the death triggers happen more quickly that you might want to think about. Things like Deathbringer Thoctar and Archetype of Finality. If you are curious about my list this is it. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-scorpion-gods-sting-2/ but I think the archetype would be perfect with Warstorm Surge, Everlasting Torment, and Nest of Scarabs. Sick combo. Also a big fan of Necropede and Core Prowler for creature options and Puncture Blast and Volt Charge for red counters as a whole.
2 years ago
2 years ago
Soul-scar replaces damage dealt altogether with -1/-1 counters. Damage modifying effects from the wither of Puncture Blast or Soulfire Grand Master will not apply, since they modify how damage is dealt, but with soul-scar, no damage is dealt.
End result is still 3 -1/-1 counters.
2 years ago
Here's what's going on. I'm planning on making jund -1/-1 counter deck. If I have Soul-Scar Mage out and I use Puncture Blast would that trigger soul scar's effect. or thanks to the wither Puncture Blast has on it Overrule soul scar?
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