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Madness (If you discard this card, you may cast it for its madness cost instead of putting it into your graveyard.)
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|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Obsessive Search Discussion
7 months ago
As a note, not that it applies to Anje Falkenrath but it could apply with other cards: a card could have a madness cost equal to its mana cost. There is nothing that says it can't. Falkenrath Gorger gives your Vampire creature cards madness, equal to their mana cost. There are also cards that have a madness cost equal to their mana cost, such as Asylum Visitor and Obsessive Search .
It's important to note that a card that grants an alternative cost or similar ability such as madness, flashback, scavenge, etc. will actually tell you what that cost is.
11 months ago
When exploiting the discard mechanic of your commander don't forget Madness Call to the Netherworld turns that disard into a free recursion to hand effect instead Grave Scrabbler costs you 1B for the same effect but does give you a body for it too. Obsessive Search turns the discard into a draw for one blue.
1 year ago
After reading your commander I immediately went to the list for a madness deck I'm working on. Here's some cards I could see that might fit. I especially like the idea of playing off the discard.
- Circular Logic power card in here, I think
- Curator of Mysteries
- Decree of Silence
- Drake Haven turn those discards into drakes
- Forbid discard two cards to counter a spell
- Obsessive Search discard it then pay 1 to replace it
- Stronghold Biologist Discard to counter
- Tidespout Tyrant counter their spells and clear their board
- Zenith Seeker if you had a big grounded beater. Flying Kraken anyone?
1 year ago
I think Teferi falls into the category of 'win more'. He's very good if you're already ahead (have some stax pieces out or have a wiped board), but for the most part is a card I wouldn't want to see. Estrid is already really difficult to get out as the game goes on. Jamming her out early gives her a chance to tick up without many creatures present. Drawing this guy mid game or flipping him with Estrid would feel pretty bad. He'd be a 5 mana Vindicate or Obsessive Search. Outside of creatures he's also blue, meaning he could eat a Pyroblast or Red Elemental Blast.
If I was to consider another plansewalker I'd probably run Elspeth, Knight-Errant as she's cheaper, can tick up to create chump blockers (or good blockers under humility), could function as a wincon, and have a more relevant ult.
1 year ago
Fair enough. In that case, at a glance it looks like you have enough draw/discard power in here to drop 1 land and 1 Obsessive Search maybe, then you could squeeze in 2x Dark Ritual. If you don't use it for ramp-nannigans, you can pitch it while looting. Why not?
But you asked if you should, and that I can't say. =|
1 year ago
Ah, I understand that is a subtle distinction in the play of the card I guess I read it as a blanket replacement effect. I suppose that changes how I would play things a bit and I guess I should remove it from the sideboard because that makes it much less useful. Really appreciate the second set of eyes, I have been brewing around library casually and would not have realized that anytime soon.
1 year ago
So I modified your list a bit, but I don't know if you want to see it. I'll offer some suggestions and leave a list at the bottom if you're interested in what it could look like.
I'd cut Hooting Mandrills. You're deck seems more interested in getting Threshold online. This card is contrary to that strategy and I think you found your beatdown body in Arrogant Wurm, which is just strictly better with trample.
After testing Rites of Refusal, I think it is just too cute and clunky. I found that this iteration of the deck doesn't run enough pure card advantage to justify "2-for-1"ing yourself. 8 counterspells may be enough anyway, but if you feel like you could use more, running Counterspell or Daze aren't bad options. They come with a little risk, not being mono U, but could be worth it.
I think you can cut Werebear. Breaks my heart to suggest it, but it might be risky to over-saturate your deck with threshold creatures. He's more vulnerable than Nimble Mongoose in the early game and I've already mentioned that the Arrogant Wurm seems like your 4/4 of choice. You aren't an aggro deck so, rather than just throwing a ton of 4/4's in the opponent's face, the tempo deck's concern is laying down select threats in the early to mid game and protecting/disrupting your way to victory.
I've found that with Careful Study and other looting effects, I'd rather have card advantage that gave me more to discard to cards like Waterfront Bouncer and Wild Mongrel. Accumulated Knowledge or Deep Analysis are good cards for stocking your hand to give strength to your discard engines.
Merfolk Looter and Obsessive Search feel super good in conjunction. The looter offers another instant speed dicard outlet that isn't as mana hungry as Waterfront Bouncer and, when combined with madness, it reads "tap: draw a card." Obsessive Search offers increased value to your discard engines and helps you to dig for relevant cards.
Consider Just the Wind. It's effectively a Vapor Snag in your deck which is a tempo staple in pauper. It can clear the way for attacks or save one of your own creatures while fizzling a removal spell.
AEther Tradewinds is another card I was looking at. This can bounce back pesky non-creature that dodged one of your counterspells the first time. Once again, fizzles removal while tempoing your opponent. Also, never hurts to have Basking Rootwalla back in hand.
Lastly, I toyed around with a mana base that is slightly slower but much more consistent. Ash Barrens and Thornwood Falls offer you fixing. Simic Growth Chamber does this as well and allows you the ability to cut back on lands (as one Growth chamber is effectively two lands on one card). Being able to bounce back a basic you no longer need to discard to one of your engines, all while hitting your land drop, is also not half bad.
Deck List: UG Madness Sample Deck
PS. Let me know if you have any sideboard questions.
2 years ago
I like it!