Ob Nixilis's Cruelty

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Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Custom Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Modern Legal
Arena Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Standard Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Brawl Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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War of the Spark (WAR) Common

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Ob Nixilis's Cruelty

Instant

Target creature gets -5/-5 until end of turn. If that creature would be put into the graveyard from the battlefield this turn, exile it instead.

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Ob Nixilis's Cruelty Discussion

StopShot on Will WOTS find any foothold?

5 days ago

I believe Despark and Return to Nature sees occasional sideboard play in Modern.

Law-Rune Enforcer and Ob Nixilis's Cruelty have also seen some Pauper play as well.

SideBae on Ob Nixilis, unshackled

6 days ago

Hello! So a lot of my suggestions will depend on budget/card access; since I don't know what yours is, I'll just leave all of the suggestions I think of. Feel free to ignore me.

The first thing I think of when I think of a 'demon' deck is Shadowborn Apostle . With a critical mass of these lil' buggers, you can just tutor out whichever demon is good for any given situation. Pair them with Thrumming Stone for instant fun. To take that strategy a little farther, you might consider running Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker as your general. I know he's not a demon, but his synergy with the Shadowborn Apostle s makes him an honorary demon, as far as I am concerned.

Ramp is a premium in EDH. I notice you have a few rocks already in your deck; however, I think there're better ones you can run. In general, two-mana mana-rocks are going to be a lot better than three-mana mana-rocks, if only because once you're at three mana you typically want to be doing more than just ramping. I like your Jet Medallion ; consider Thought Vessel , Mind Stone , Charcoal Diamond , Coldsteel Heart , Prismatic Lens , Mana Vault , Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt . With as many artifacts as you have, Mox Opal is usually going to be online, too.

Land-wise, I must confess confusion as to why you're running Command Tower . If I am not missing something, it's a Swamp that dies to Wasteland , Back to Basics , Blood Moon , Magus of the Moon , Ruination , Dust Bowl and friends. I think you should replace it with a basic Swamp . Temple of the False God is a land I have mixed feelings about, as it isn't exactly the sort of land you want to see in your opening seven; that being said, it can be powerful late-game. Consider Ancient Tomb , as (since it was reprinted recently) it is at a relatively low price, and it can cast two-mana mana-rocks on turn one. Additionally, in mono-black, Cabal Coffers and Cabal Stronghold are very powerful mana sources. Pairing them with Deserted Temple works pretty well, too. Consider Lake of the Dead , Shizo, Death's Storehouse and Phyrexian Tower as good utility-lands. Also, you could probably use two to four more lands in your list. Twenty-eight is pretty much were I tend to bottom out on land-count, at that's when I'm running all the zero-mana mana-rocks.

Card-draw, card-selection and tutoring are all also very important in EDH. Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are the gold-standard for tutors, though their prices tend to make them rather inaccessible. Scheming Symmetry is a good tutor if your general is out; similarly, Maralen of the Mornsong seems... worth trying. Presumably, someone is going to take thirteen and kill her, but she's probably pretty good anyway. Diabolic Tutor , which I see you run, is a good option; Dark Petition , Mastermind's Acquisition and Beseech the Queen also come to mind. In the vein of card-draw, consider Night's Whisper , Ambition's Cost , Read the Bones , Phyrexian Arena , Twilight Prophet , Staff of Nin , Ancient Craving , Sign in Blood , Necropotence , Harvester of Souls , Null Profusion , Succumb to Temptation and friends. Graveborn Muse is good even as just a second Phyrexian Arena if you only have one zombie out. If you pair Waste Not with Words of Waste , you can also generate card-advantage. Almost as good as card-draw is preventing your opponents from drawing cards -- unfortunately, in mono-black this is pretty much just Chains of Mephistopheles , which costs about as much as a used kidney these days. Usually I'd suggest Narset, Parter of Veils or Spirit of the Labyrinth .

In terms of removal, you typically don't want to settle for one-for-ones. In EDH, you're generally facing three opponents, which means you're facing three times the number of creatures/threats that you would be facing in a one-v-one. So trading a card for just one creature is often times just not enough. I don't think Ob Nixilis's Cruelty or Unholy Hunger are very good, for that reason. You may have more luck with Ashes to Ashes , Toxic Deluge , Damnation and the like... perhaps even Hex , though keep in mind you'd need six targets on the field to even cast it. Decree of Pain , Overwhelming Forces , Mutilate and Rain of Daggers are also worth considering. Black also has access to some fun pox-style cards. Innocent Blood , Barter in Blood , Liliana's Triumph or Smallpox can all be powerful in the early-game, if you're ramping with artifacts and don't have any important creatures out yet. Similarly, I should mention Pox itself -- this is easily one of the most brutal cards to resolve in EDH, right behind Ravages of War , Armageddon and Cataclysm . I haven't had much luck with it, but depending on your meta Pox may be a powerhouse.

In the Stax/Pox vein, you might consider Night of Souls' Betrayal . Doing away with some of your X/1s would make this a powerhouse, and it is an insta-kill against elf- or goblin-decks. In the right meta, Yixlid Jailer is good; though bear in mind it's a straight nonbo with Night of Souls' Betrayal .

I see you're running Leyline of the Void . Consider pairing it with Helm of Obedience . If you activate Helm of Obedience targeting an opponent while Leyline of the Void is out, the mill from the helm will be replaced with exiling the card. Thus, Helm of Obedience just makes the opponent keep trying to put the top card of their deck into their graveyard and keep exiling it instead. This results in exiling your opponent's library, and leaving Helm of Obedience tapped on the field. This combo only takes out one opponent at a time, is sure to draw a lot of hate, and requires several tutors to make it consistent, but I figured you might be interested in it. If you're good at politics (I'm not), it can be a pretty powerful A-Bomb.

In mono-black, you should consider a reanimator package. Buried Alive or Entomb combined with Animate Dead , Reanimate , Necromancy , Victimize , Dance of the Dead or even Exhume can get a fatty on the table real fast. Entomb -ing Lord of the Void turn one and Reanimate -ing him turn two (or even turn one, if you run Dark Ritual or Lotus Petal ) seems pretty good to me. Whip of Erebos is also a form of permanent-based reanimation, which has the added bonus of gaining you life.

If you're having trouble killing opponents, consider Helm of the Host . This'll add a new threat to the board every turn, provided you can keep one on the table. Bloodchief Ascension also puts down one hell of a clock. Doom Whisperer , Herald of Anguish , Carnifex Demon and Desecration Demon are all additional demons to consider.

Finally, in terms of what to cut: Start by looking for inefficient cards or over-redundant/unnecessary/underwhelming effects. Keep an eye on those cards when you play, and if you're often seeing them, wishing you could just discard them and draw another card, that's a card you should cut. It might be a baller effect, but if the cost is too high or the effect to narrow, it isn't worth running.

Good luck, man!

Andrewpayseur on Tassigur Havin' a Blastigur

1 week ago

If I were to replace 3 cards from your maybeboard, I think I would throw in Mana Vault , Sylvan Library , and Exsanguinate .

I would swap Mana Vault for Strip Mine . It may not be a clear cut decision like I'm going to make it sound, but I can only think of 4 Land cards to target with the Strip Mine . The two that we've encountered the most are Glacial Chasm and Cabal Coffers , leaving Maze of Ith and Gaea's Cradle for the other two targets. In all of the games that we've played, seldom have you activated Strip Mine to blow anyone's land up. That being said, its main utility is kind of irrelevant. One colorless mana is still one colorless mana, so there's that, but I honestly don't think you'll miss it too much. One more thing that I could say to advocate for Strip Mine are the times (which are more frequent than any of the land cards listed above) when a useful value/combo piece is shut down by Imprisoned in the Moon . This is a pretty cheeky way to get it back without a Naturalize or similar card, due to Tassigur's recursive nature. The last thought is if you were to run Strip Mine , get ready to run a Scaretiller to get it really running and to help thin your graveyard.

Sylvan Library is maybe more important than the Mana Vault . Ramp is valuable, but card advantage is invaluable. You can preview your first Tassigur interaction for that rotation, and maybe it makes sense to reorder your top two cards if you have a draw spell to either force a land into the graveyard, or grab one so you don't miss a drop. I haven't encountered a game where Shadow of Doubt has made an impact, but I think that is a similar casting cost card with a much less desirable or lasting effect. Shadow of Doubt has that sweet fetch land swat if you want to put someone behind.

Lastly, Exsanguinate needs to be in here as an alternative wincon. Recently, we played a game where you had the ability to make infinite mana, but not an effective means to use it other than Tassigur activations, and due to the board state, that wasn't exactly desirable. Exsanguinate is less flashy, but just as an effective means to close out a game. Maybe get rid of Ob Nixilis's Cruelty or Capsize to make room. You'll basically be running two of them if you can Muddle the Mixture and grab it.

shaadowmaster on Elenda, Death Bloom (help adjusting maybeboard)

1 week ago

I'm thinking of cutting Ob Nixilis's Cruelty , but I'm not sure what for. Maybe Captivating Vampire ? I don't want to be down removal.

theages on WUBR

1 month ago

4 colors and no Arcum's Astrolabe ? That's really greedy of you.

If you go a little heavier on the black, you could run Evincar's Justice which is both a board wipe and a win con as well as Thorn of the Black Rose in order to get your combo going.

I don't quite understand why your deck is only running one Mnemonic Wall when it's essential to the deck and you can't tutor it.

Your deck feels pretty weak to removal that exiles, such as Unmake or Ob Nixilis's Cruelty , to non-elf swarm tactics (namely, goblins and slivers) and to Thorn of the Black Rose and Palace Sentinels decks. I'm not sure how you fare against burn either, as it feels like you'll probably lose pre-board and your best shot at winning post board is getting Ephemerate + Hallow + Mnemonic Wall which is unlikely to happen twice in a row.

Overall, this feels like Teachings Tron that doesn't play the Urza lands in order to play Skred effectively but lacking the access to the Urza lands means you can't make good use of Mystical Teachings as you're not floating in a pool of mana. You do, however, get rid of the Crop Rotation + Expedition Map + Prophetic Prism package that is essential to playing Tron, which leaves more slots open but I'm a bit skeptical still.

J-B-D on Dimir God Control

2 months ago

Ob Nixilis's Cruelty has the same effect as Dismember , with the added bonus of exiling that creature if it would die. Are you choosing to use Dismember because of the flexibility with cost to play?

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