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Champion an Elemental (When this enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you remove another Elemental you control from the game. When this leaves the battlefield, that card returns to play.)
Nova Chaser Discussion
3 weeks ago
The alara block elemental tribal tools are worth a look, especially for more casual decks. Smokebraider , Flamekin Harbinger , Brighthearth Banneret , Nova Chaser , Rage Forger , Pyroclast Consul etc.
1 month ago
I hope at least some of this is helpful!
First of all, 1x Bojuka Bog can be a mainboard land that fulfills the same utility as Tormod's Crypt. An additional 1x Scavenger Grounds can supplement the Bog and add flexibility. If you're planning on shelling out crazy cash for shocks and fetches, you might as well add 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , too.
I second UndeadxPenguins in moving the Leylines to the sideboard. I might go even farther and say that Leyline of the Void might not be worth it. Generally speaking, I prefer spells that apply to all opponents - IE - I'm excluded from the effects.
Multiplayer burn is basically impossible. I totally understand wanting to make a Rakdos burn deck instead of a Boros one. I, too, feel a seemingly innate desire to break convention. Additionally, I've had the fortune of pulling a full set of Dragonskull Summit s from booster packs, so I've trying to build a multiplayer Rakdos deck. That said, neither red nor black are colors I use regularly or primarily and I'm sorry to report my efforts have yet to yield any results I'm particularly pleased with. For reference, my most recent attempts are: Tainted Aria and Forgotten Elements. One take-away from those decks Aria of Flame and Priest of Forgotten Gods - each says "...any number of target players..." or "each opponent" - there aren't hoards of cards that have language like that, so any spells that strike your fancy that have language like that are going to be good. All that said, I doubt you'll ever be able to deal damage fast enough to more than one opponent with any consistency. That doesn't mean you can't make a darn mean deck, but that perhaps it would be better to forego the goal of speed in favor of broader, repeatable effects.
I think one way around the obvious limit of trying to deal out 40 or even 60 damage with a burn deck in a multiplayer format is to include more passive threats - dropping some instants in favor of creatures and enchantments - I'm thinking spells like Eidolon of the Great Revel , Harsh Mentor , and Manabarbs . While, like spells that say "all opponents," there aren't a ton of these sort of spells out there, there are some good ones.
Since you're running so few creatures, perhaps it would also be worth considering board wipes as a means of dealing with multiplayer threats. Blasphemous Act comes to mind, as well as the eternally popular Damnation .
Angrath, the Flame-Chained seems like a possible fit, though I question the CMC viability.
I suggest you add "Multiplayer" to this decks hubs.
I don't put any stock in TappedOut's "Competitive Meter." I showed with my deck, 100% Competitive, 100% Loser that the Meter does not take into account the interaction between cards. So if you make changes and the Meter says it's less competitive, I wouldn't worry at all.
Sideboard: Everlasting Torment , Dismember - deals with indestructibles, Extirpate / Surgical Extraction , Geth's Verdict - deals with Hexproofs and Shrouds, Pithing Needle , Ratchet Bomb , Elixir of Immortality .
2 months ago
A lot of my experience is in competitive formats as well as some high-powered EDH, where games last 3-7 turns or so before someone combos out to win. A lot of my advice comes from that perspective, where you need to make a strong impact by turn 3 or risk losing! Casual commander is pretty fun too, but my meta has weaponized itself.
When comparing cards, I find its pretty helpful to list their stats side by side, because they aren't exactly the same but fill similar roles
- Always 2 CMC vs somewhere between 1 and 8 CMC (you're not casting it unless there's 1 critter on board lol)
- Wipes small creatures vs wipes the entire board
- Same timing restrictions, same color, both deal damage to remove
The reason I prefer Pyroclasm is because the cost is always guaranteed to be 2, which is highly playable for removal. As metas get more competitive, they tend to run lower CMC spells, including creatures. You see a lot of 1 mana drop elves (llanowar, fyndhorn, deepshadow, avacyns pilgrim, birds, deathrite shaman, etc.) that can be wiped by Pyroclasm. You also see a lot of creatures with strong hate abilities that can be killed by pyroclasm too, like Hushwing Gryff Aven Mindcensor Notion Thief Collector Ouphe and more. Pyroclasm is strong at removing all the supporting creatures that lock down the board or accelerate opponents to wins.
Its very easy to trade a pyroclasm for 3 of your opponents creatures in the first couple turns. Getting that 3 for 1 is card advantage for you, because you've removed 3 while only spending 1. Blasphemous Act does the same thing, but against 3 creatures on the board it would cost 6 mana to cast, versus just 2 for pyroclasm. Blasphact certainly scales better with more creatures, and its more likely to kill a whole board, so there's trade offs. Also worth noting that Pyro will snag about 50% of commanders, but that number lowers in casual play (bigger pool of playable commanders in casual, more have higher toughness) I would choose to run Pyroclasm in the majority of cases too.
We can do the same thing with Greenwarden and Ewit too
- 3 CMC vs. 6 CMC
- Non-tribe vs. Tribal (relevant for tutoring, cost reducing, triggered/activated effects)
- Recurs on ETB vs. Recurs on ETB and exile from GY (niche but relevant)
- Bad beater vs. Pretty good beater
Again, I personally like Ewit better. There is no denying that Greenwarden is in tribe and has the extra effect, but I think the lower CMC is way more important. It means that you can play it for value during your early turns to recur a powerful spell. It also lets you generate a value engine sooner with Ghostly Flicker or Displace (you bounce ewit and something else, use ewit to get the flicker back), but honestly you could just run both. Recursion is strong enough and they're both pretty good cards! They are also great when you up the tutor density, because it lets you get more mileage from them.
As far as ramp goes, I want to give you a new perspective on how to look at it. Your goal is to play your commander as fast as possible so you can start using its abilities (pretty common for a lot of decks). There are certain pieces of ramp that get you your commander a turn before you would get them with others.
For example, if you play a land on turn 1 2 and 3, and a piece of ramp on turn 1 or 2, you get a turn 3 commander.
- Turn 1, land
- Turn 2, land + any of these (Signets, Talisman of Impulse , Talisman of Creativity , Talisman of Curiosity , Rampant Growth , Farseek , Nature's Lore , Three Wishes , Lotus Cobra )
- Turn 3, land + commander
Some of them even can tap for mana when they come in, letting you play other stuff too. Its also worth noting that a ramp piece on turn 1 AND 2 means you get a turn 3 commander before you play your land drop, which lets you get a landfall trigger immediately.
That isn't to say that Cultivate etc. are bad cards. But a cultivate turn 3 means a turn 4 commander, which would be possible with simple land drops turns 1-4. On the other hand, they give you a land to hand too, which helps guarantee more landfall triggers and also thins deck for better draws. In fact, I would just run more ramp pieces in general, so keep the ones you have and add in the talismans and rampant growth + variants and I'd say you're set!
Heroic Intervention is great in decks that can't run counterspells, basically decks without blue. In 90% of cases, you're going to use this as a counterspell, but the other 10% are dodging damage from creatures on the board (or abilities) or possibly using it to protect creatures while you're attacking. I think that a counterspell gives greater versatility overall, because you may also want to stop something that doesn't just target creatures, a la Winter Orb or Static Orb .
Release to the Wind has a lot of versatility. It can remove problem permanents for basically a turn, which can help greatly. Spot removal like Pongify outperforms it in terms of CMC and the guaranteed removal. Release to the Wind also lets you reuse ETB abilities of your own permanents, but this is rather expensive as you're paying the cost of the permanent + 3, whereas Ghostly Flicker is guaranteed to get the ETB effect for always 3 CMC. Release also lets you protect your own stuff from removal and exile, but once again, rather expensive. Its better on cheaper permanents for sure. It has an insane amount of flexibility for what it does though, which makes it worth a consider. I wouldn't run it but am not against the card being run.
2 months ago
I'm happy to see other Locus of the Roil decks popping up! The Deadeye Peregrine Drake combo with our commander is definitely interesting, I might consider it. Is Cloudstone Curio maiming in there just to gain value from your ETBs, or this there another combo I'm missing?
I noticed that your land count is pretty low, especially without any mana rocks to fill in. Also I would recommend running more ETB effects to really get the most out of cards like Panharmonicon and Strionic Resonator . I would recommend replaying them for big body creatures like Nova Chaser just and idea!
Definitely like the deck! I'm going to take more time to look at it more later and take some inspiration for my deck! Please check it out and let me know what you think!
+1 from me!
Commander / EDH*
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Darth_Savage on 100%
7 months ago
Hi Cyb3rguerrill0, Well Arc Runner doesn't have trample, so it can be chump blocked with ease. I'd replace it with Lightning Serpent or Hellspark Elemental. I'd also run 2 copies of either Tyrant of Discord, Nova Chaser or Hound of Griselbrand to make best use of Incandescent Soulstoke. If you have a sideboard, you might also want to consider some elemental hate bears Tunnel Ignus and Stigma Lasher...
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