Nantuko Tracer

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Custom Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Judgment (JUD) Common

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Nantuko Tracer

Creature — Insect Druid

When Nantuko Tracer enters the battlefield, you may put target card from a graveyard on the bottom of its owner's library.

Nantuko Tracer Discussion

Drathro on [Primer] Momir Vig Hackball

7 months ago

If I'm not mistaken, there is a way to use Glimpse without Gaea's Cradle that uses only core cards available even to the budget builds. Apologies if somebody already posted a solution. I'll outline my thoughts. Let me know if I'm missing something here.

Given that you are generating mana and drawing through your deck, let's assume you reach the point where your library is empty. Let's further assume that because you've seen your library that you have played out the subset of permanents necessary to combo (all with summoning sickness), and you have destroyed or bounced any taxing effects. You have at least Green Sun's Zenith in hand, floating, and once-per-turn resources that could be activated have already been used.

In play:

(starting with mana floating)

  1. Pay and Temur-bounce Wirewood Symbiote. ( mana floating)
  2. Put GSZ in the library for net zero mana. ()
    • Pay
    • Play GSZ for X=0.
    • Two Nettle Sentinels untap; Birchlore-tap them to add .
    • Fail to find. Shuffle GSZ in.
  3. Play Wirewood Symbiote for net zero mana (regain via Sentinels/Birchlore). ()
    • Draw GSZ
  4. Put GSZ in the library for net zero mana (see step 2). ()
  5. Symbiote-bounce mana elf , targeting and untapping Heritage Druid. ()
  6. Play mana elf for . (0 mana)
    • Two Nettle Sentinels untap
    • Draw GSZ
    • Resolve mana elf.
  7. Heritage-tap mana elf and Sentinels for . ()
  8. Repeat steps 1-7, except at step 5, untap Birchlore Rangers. ()
  9. Birchlore-tap Heritage Druid and Birchlore Rangers for (or ). ()
  10. Repeat all steps, gaining one mana for each full cycle.

In this way you can generate arbitrarily large amounts of and . Now you execute the rest of the plan, making sure to play/reshuffle GSZ only after you play Winds of Rebuke and before you replay Nantuko Tracer .

AverageDragon on [Primer] Momir Vig Hackball

1 year ago

simondiamond2012

You shouldn't be running into the Winds issue? Our primary and secondary recursion pieces (Nantuko Tracer / Riftsweeper + Scavenging Ooze ) are either in hand or on the battlefield, so they'll never be milled.

In addition, the Glimpse of Nature problem is unavoidable through conventional means. The infinite mana loop detailed in the primer WILL result in decking out, and you will have about 100ish mana to work with once you deck out. This means you can't truly go infinite and win the game.

I'd encourage giving the primer a good parse-through to see the planned lines.

AverageDragon on [Primer] Momir Vig Hackball

1 year ago

SiegeRhiNOOO

Nice catch! You've actually hit on the biggest issue that the budget Cradle-less versions have. I've been meaning to do a write-up here on the primer for it.

In this version of the list, the version with Crop Rotation and Gaea's Cradle, we actually use a different infinite mana combo entirely to solve the Glimpse Problem.

  1. After drawing your entire deck with Glimpse and the normal mana combo, you should have a pretty big amount of mana (over 30 or 40 most likely).
  2. Cast some creatures in your hand to bump creature count up to as high as you can get it reasonably. I don't know the exact number, but I shoot for about 20 creatures to give me wiggle room. Be sure to cast Green Sun's Zenith in between creature casts so you don't deck out.
  3. If Gaea's Cradle is stuck in your hand, use Glamerdye to get it in the yard, then Nantuko Tracer it onto the bottom of your library.
  4. Cast Crop Rotation and fetch out the Gaea's Cradle, then tap it for big mana.
  5. Temur Sabertooth the Nantuko Tracer back to hand, cast Green Sun's Zenith, then cast Nantuko Tracer to put Crop Rotation on the bottom of your library.
  6. Bounce and cast Nantuko Tracer again, which draws you into Crop Rotation. Put the land you sacrificed earlier onto the bottom of your library.
  7. Cast Crop Rotation and sacrifice Gaea's Cradle as the additional cost, and fetch out the land you put into your library earlier.
  8. Temur Sabertooth the Nantuko Tracer back to hand, cast Green Sun's Zenith, then cast Nantuko Tracer to put Crop Rotation on the bottom of your library.
  9. Bounce and cast Nantuko Tracer again, which draws you into Crop Rotation. When it ETBs, put Gaea's Cradle onto the bottom of your library.
  10. Repeat steps 4-8 to generate infinite green mana, and then go through all the normal win steps. Just make sure you keep casting Green Sun's Zenith to keep you alive

In the budget lists, we haven't found the "perfect solution" for the Glimpse problem quite yet. The issue is that we want to preserve "slot integrity", which just means that we try to keep cards as useful as we can outside of the combos. For instance, this is why we use Winds of Rebuke instead of Laboratory Maniac, because Winds of Rebuke is more useful outside of the combo. The best budget solutions we have so far are things like Lightning Greaves or Exploration + Alchemist's Refuge, but since those cards aren't really that good on their own, they compromise slot integrity. For this reason, our budget lists just run Crystal Spray instead of Glimpse of Nature (for now).

If you want to hop on our Discord Server sometime, we'd love to have your help solving this problem!

AverageDragon on [Primer] Momir Vig Hackball

1 year ago

WarSpaniel

That specific combo to net infinite blue is rare, but it works because you only use it when you already have assembled infinite green mana + infinite card draw. It's a tool to transform G into U, and then have access to all our wincon in Winds of Rebuke. As for how the combo literally works, you cast Chrome Mox, exiling a blue card. You then tap it for U, and destroy it with Nature's Claim. Next, you put the blue card you exiled back into your deck with Riftsweeper, and put the Chrome Mox and Nature's Claim back into your library with Nantuko Tracer. Finally, you loop your Elvish Visionary to draw all the pieces again, then repeat. This allows you to turn infinite G into infinite U, but we don't really need it, since we already run Birchlore Rangers (for other reasons).

This deck, especially its budget versions, are a pretty good starting point for competitive EDH. It's a little bit on the complicated side, but if you practice a little and stay aware during games, you should be fine. Feel free to pop by our Discord server if you want quick replies for any questions you have!

Ashriel on Varolz Hulk

1 year ago

Nantuko Tracer as budget alternative for Golgari Thug? For Mikaeus / Ballista stuck on hand scenario.

AverageDragon on [Primer] Momir Vig Hackball

1 year ago

MrTomDawson

While the combo might seem fragile, it's actually very resilient thanks to the utility of "dork chaining". Since we're able to generate mana and tutor any pieces that we need, it allows us to run compact and efficient backup plans.

For example, our primary recursion package consists of Nantuko Tracer, Riftsweeper, and Scavenging Ooze. This means that if we run into almost all forms of interaction, we're able to tutor and cast a recursion spell for very little additional cost, and continue comboing off. If someone gets rid of Heritage Druid, we're able to use Birchlore Rangers, Nettle Sentinel, and Phantasmal Image to tutor chain to generate mana, tutor up recursion, and then use it. If someone exiles a combo piece, we can tutor up Riftsweeper, shuffle the combo piece into our library, and then tutor it up immediately after using a different piece. And finally, in the event that Nantuko Tracer gets stuck in the graveyard, we can tutor up Scavenging Ooze, exile it, then return it to our library with Riftsweeper.

The reason we don't use a simpler combo is that in its current state, the deck has at least 2 or 3 layers of redundancy for every core piece, thanks to the tutorable recursion. A simpler combo might work, but it would likely include additional dead cards that aren't really all that essential. One of the deck's prime appeals is its powerful resiliency, which operates effectively through interaction.

AverageDragon on [Primer] Momir Vig Hackball

1 year ago

Wurmlover

You actually have to swap to a different infinite mana loop entirely using Crop Rotation, Gaea's Cradle, Nantuko Tracer, Green Sun's Zenith, and Temur Sabertooth.

When you have drawn your library, you should have some large amount of mana from doing the (normally infinite) mana loop, which is not enough to win the game but enough to let you do just about anything else. The first, most important step of this loop is that every time you draw into Green Sun's Zenith, you should be casting it, so that you don't deck out. Be sure to have around 10 or more creatures on the battlefield, just to be sure you're netting enough mana with Gaea's Cradle.

To begin, shuffle Green Sun's Zenith into your library, then get Gaea's Cradle into your graveyard and return it to your library with Temur Sabertooth and Nantuko Tracer. If it's stuck in your hand, you can use Glamerdye to Retrace it into the graveyard, where it is then able to be put into the library with Tracer. Next, cast Crop Rotation, sacrificing a land you have on the battlefield. Search for Gaea's Cradle, put it on the battlefield, then tap it for some amount of mana. Next, use Temur Sabertooth and Nantuko Tracer to put Crop Rotation back into your library, and then draw it, usually by just bouncing a dork and replaying it, taking advantage of Glimpse of Nature's draw trigger.

At this point, you should have a land in your graveyard, a tapped Gaea's Cradle, and Crop Rotation in your hand. Next, use Temur Sabertooth and Nantuko Tracer to put the land that you sacrificed earlier back into your library, then sacrifice Gaea's Cradle to Crop Rotation in order to find it. You then put Gaea's Cradle back into your library with Tracer, and continue looping Crop Rotation and Nantuko Tracer in order to continually generate more and more mana. This allows you to generate infinite green without decking out, thanks to Green Sun's Zenith, and you can then convert it to infinite blue, and subsequently perform the winning loops as normal.

The Glimpse combo is convoluted, but thankfully, it doesn't add any extra dead pieces to the deck.

AverageDragon on [Primer] Momir Vig Hackball

1 year ago

IrvRai - Birchlore Rangers is the easiest way to get infinite blue, but it's not the only way. You can do a loop involving Crop Rotation and Nantuko Tracer, and then any land that produces blue mana. Crop Rotation effectively "untaps" a land by sacrificing a tapped land and replacing it with an untapped land, so you can create infinite blue that way. There are also loops such as Chrome Mox + any blue card + Nature's Claim + Riftsweeper to generate infinite blue, so you should be good to go in effectively every situation.


Drak - I'll go down the list of cards and explain our reasoning for excluding em:

Cloudstone Curio - Now, this is actually a pretty interesting one, but our combo only needs a single green creature in hand to go off once we have Momir on the field.
The basic game plan is "play ramp/counter spells --> cast Momir --> Hack Momir + cast a green creature --> win the game."
Where Cloudstone Curio would come in handy is that last part, after we cast Momir. However, at that point, any green creature would do in order to win, which means that Cloudstone Curio wouldn't really be helping much. If Cloudstone helped ramp more consistently, or bounced another creature without needing you to play another creature, it might be better for the deck.

Aluren - Admittedly, I have a soft spot for Aluren. However, I'm not sure it would be a good for for this deck. While it effectively reduces the mana cost of creatures played after it, Aluren unfortunately costs 4 mana by itself. In addition, if we could go off at instant speed, it's likely that we could also go off at sorcery-speed without passing turn. It's also notable to mention that our Temur Sabertooth wincon, which is our main wincon, doesn't work at instant-speed, since Temur Sabertooth costs 4 mana and isn't Aluren-able. So while Aluren could help, it's only one mana away from Momir, and therefore it's more efficient to just cast Momir instead.

Coiling Oracle - This card actually used to be in the deck, and it's part of one of the optional alternate wincons. Basically, it's swap-able with Elvish Visionary, and for the most part you wouldn't notice a difference in your standard win lines. However, there are a few arguments against Coiling Oracle vs Elvish Visionary. For one, Coiling Oracle costs UG, as opposed to Elvish Visionary's 1G, which makes it more difficult to cast outside of our combo. In addition, while it's true that Coiling Oracle tutors for us, Elvish Visionary also tutors a creature to hand for us, even without a hack. Due to Momir Vig, Simic Visionary's wording, casting Elvish Visionary will tutor a creature to the top of our library, and then when it enters the battlefield, we will draw the creature we tutored. Since we believe that the more difficult mana cost is more relevant than the potential ramp of Coiling Oracle, we run Elvish Visionary instead.

If you were wondering about the alternate win with Coiling Oracle, it involves shuffling Gaea's Cradle into your library by getting it into your grave (either Chain of Vapor or Glamerdye do the trick), then putting it into your library with Nantuko Tracer, then looping Coiling Oracle and Temur Sabertooth to put the land into play untapped. You can use this to generate infinite mana through Glimpse of Nature without decking yourself..

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