Martyr's Cry

Sorcery

Exile all white creatures. For each creature exiled this way, its controller draws a card.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (7)

plakjekaas on Drawing mutiple cards in white

8 months ago

If you don't value your creatures too much, Martyr's Cry can draw you a lot of cards

plakjekaas on Mono White Ramp/Draw

3 years ago

Omniscience_is_life and are those percentages of mono white decks? Or all possible decks running white? Because nobody who's allowed to play Read the Bones will consider a Martyr's Cry for their card draw. It's a lot easier to play with statistics than it is to play magic.

I did explain how I thought white is the underdog, the colour that needs to work a little harder for the same results, because the color is better suited for 1v1, and low played % can mean several things. Not only that the card is bad, it could also mean people don't want to work harder. It could mean the cards are less available, or unknown.

Plus, white is uniquely equipped to make sure it's opponents have more lands in play, with Path to Exile , Winds of Abandon , Karoo , Guildless Commons , Oath of Lieges etc.

King_marchesa I'm afraid Tithe is a reserved list card, yes. Gift of Estates is close though.

But if you're advocating a white Harmonize and Cultivate , do you really want to play white? Or do you actually want to play Simic, without the image of evil and overpoweredness that has accompanied these colors recently? Because if you don't want to play equipment (which has gotten a massive power boost with Commander Legends and even broke onto cEDH as an archetype because of it), or weenies, or lifegain, why do you want to play white? And if you'd rather play Cultivate or Harmonize but in white! but don't lose access to Wrath of God , Sun Titan and Swords to Plowshares , why not play selesnya? The color system works on colors both exploiting and complementing each others' strengths and weaknesses, and not every color is meant to do everything. If you want to Cultivate , play green, it's ok to play green.

Colorshifting with a white twist just to give the color access to the same staples that the other colors have, is not a solution that would fix white. It would make white just feel like the other colors, pushing out the actual interesting white cards to make room for green "light" gameplay.

plakjekaas on Mono White Ramp/Draw

3 years ago

Mono white is fine as is. There's plenty of ramp in mono white, it's probably the second best color at fetching lands out of your library with cards like Knight of the White Orchid, Boreas Charger, Keeper of the Accord and such. Oh and Smothering Tithe of course.

Card advantage comes in less obvious ways, but there's plenty to be found. From flickering Thraben Inspector to fetching lands out of your deck with Land Tax, Gift of Estates or Tithe, to using small creatures with Mentor of the Meek, Bygone Bishop, Ranger of Eos and Recruiter of the Guard, to recurring creatures and/or small permanents with Sun Titan, Resurrection, Bruna, the Fading Light  ^Meld, to equipment with Sram, Senior Edificer and Puresteel Paladin. And don't forget that Wrath of God is also card advantage if you use it well. There's also more obscure stuff, like using lifegain + Dawn of Hope, or Martyr's Cry on your own board of tokens, or Armistice, Pursuit of Knowledge, Inheritance for slightly overpriced sources of repeatable carddraw.

There will always be a slight imbalance in the colors, there will always be one that needs to work a little harder than the others for the same results. There's plenty of colorless cards to support any deck and make it playable nowadays, and I personally wouldn't like it much if white would be homogenised with the other colors to stop the masses from complaining. We have been doing so for years, it's pretty much a meme at this point. I know people who complain about it without ever having tried to play a mono white deck. Wizards could colorshift all the good green carddraw cards to white the upcoming year and that probably wouldn't fix it, and make the game a lot less varied and interesting in the process.

I embrace the adversity and challenges that come with mono white commander deckbuilding.

Your mileage may vary.

jordanalessi on The Wrath

7 years ago

If you're going for white cards that don't do white things, Martyr's Cry has some big strange card draw.

Naganov on Geist of Saint Traft Protection

7 years ago

Misschien dat je Glare of Heresy kan spelen in plaats van Purge. Purge is dan wel een instant maar hij werkt enkel op creatures. Artifacts een kleurtje geven moet nou ook niet direct een probleem zijn. Zeker niet met Eight-and-a-Half-Tails erbij.

Heaven's Gate weet ik ook nog niet, hij maakt Martyr's Cry wel een stukje beter, maar het is enkel until end of turn en enkel op white. Ik denk dat ik snel redenen kan verzinnen om Purelace of Niveous Wisps te gaan spelen aangezien ze beiden een meer definitief effect hebben (Wel maar op n permanent)

Verder ziet het deck er ondertussen erg gaaf uit. Mogelijk dat je Teferi's Moat nog ergens erin kan passen, is sowieso al een redelijk sterke kaart en samen met Shifting Sky en Light of Day een flink sterk setje.

Als je Iona, Shield of Emeria overigens op een gegeven moment zat bent kan je hem zeker vervangen door Stormtide Leviathan!

Naganov on Geist of Saint Traft Protection

7 years ago

En de COP's, EN de ROP's zijn een beetje dubbelop. Ik zou persoonlijk kiezen voor de COP's dankzij de activatie van 1.

Iona en Llwan ga je nog wel op terug komen hoop ik. Ik denk dat het deck an sich ook al goed is en deze twee breken het deck. n speler hosen ok. maar n speler het hele spel deny'en gaat wel een beetje ver.

Martyr's Cry is goede removal, maar de card advantage is ook stevig. Ik denk dat je de tegenstanders te veel gaat geven.

Glory heeft het nadeel dat je hem eerst de GY in moet krijgen, dat kan nog wel eens een lastige zijn aangezien je meerdere goede removal targets hebt.

Cho-Arrim Legate is een matige kaart in EDH, ook als hij gratis is. Zelfde geld voor Saprazzan Legate

Alchor's Tomb is thema +, maar je speelt dan geen Distorting Lens welke minstens twee keer zo goed is.

Misdirection past niet helemaal in het deck (nee je kan de blue niet veranderen in een andere kleur)

De kaarten die ik voornamelijk mis zijn de volgende: - Tidal Visionary (1-drop en kleur veranderen) - Exorcist (Gaaf en goedkoop, need I say more) - Order of the Sacred Torch (Witte countermagic!) - Insight (Prima card advantage) - Lightwielder Paladin (Flinke jongen met een goede exile ability) - Eventueel nog Stormtide Leviathan

NotSquishedYet on A Fresh Take on 5-Color

7 years ago

I will admit that after further research, there were cards I had not accounted for when stating "two". Quicksilver - You'd think so - it took me a long time searching through the technicalities. I mean this all as sharing a quirk of the game, in a convivial manner. ;) It might also help the person running Progenitus. I may be wrong on this - please clarify if I am, and I will ask a judge.

"Protection" refers to the acronym DEBT. It means "This creature cannot be: 'D/E/B/T' by (X)." The acronym:

D-Damaged/Destroyed

E-Enchanted

B-Blocked

T-Targeted

This means that its split keyword defines "Protection from Instants" and "Protection from Sorceries". "D" applies here (ignore "Damaged" in this case), asserting that it cannot be "Destroyed by Instants/Sorceries". This applies to other card types that would attempt to destroy the board.

Therefore, the only cards capable of board-wiping it are as follows: Angel of the Dire Hour, Decree of Annihilation, Descend upon the Sinful, False Prophet, Final Judgement, Living Death, Living End, Major Teroh, Martyr's Cry, Merciless Eviction, and technically Worldfire.

I had only previously known of Descend upon the Sinful and Merciless Eviction, in this context - I believe my argument still stands that few of the possible ones are used often, if at all.