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Lumberknot
Creature — Treefolk
Hexproof
Whenever a creature dies, put a +1/+1 counter on Lumberknot.
TheVectornaut on
Death Touch Green Boi
3 years ago
It is true that the deathtouch package will be worse in multiplayer games since you have more threats to deal with. I think siding into a bigger ramp package would be a good idea. I would caution though that it's important to add in more mana dorks or ramp spells to keep pace with any new bombs you include or you'll find yourself mana screwed a lot of the time.
I went ahead and added my creature-based commander deck so I could link it for reference. It was built from a casual 60-card skeleton that's quite similar to your deck, so some of the ramp cards I've had success with over the years might do well here too.
deck: Predator's Toolkit
Prowling Serpopard or Destiny Spinner could be useful tech if counters are flying around left and right. Vigor is definitely strong against board stalls, and I like Archetype of Endurance against a lot of common removal. Somberwald Sage and Elvish Piper would probably be my first picks for dropping haymakers early without much other support. Yeva, Nature's Herald and Seedborn Muse are particularly disgusting in multiplayer since you essentially play on every turn. Some final bombs I love are Whiptongue Hydra for flyers, Polukranos, World Eater for other creatures, and Sylvan Primordial for most anything else.
For your existing ideas, I think Worldspine Wurm is good if your games go long enough to cast it while Tempt with Discovery is good if you don't have opponents who greatly benefit from the mana. I'm still iffy on Lumberknot in a deck not based around token sacrifice, and I'd probably just run Dungrove Elder if you need a midrange hexproof creature. Hydra's Growth is very good with additional +1/+1 synergy, Kazandu Tuskcaller needs more token synergy, and Strixhaven Stadium feels optimistic in multiplayer. For the bigger cards, I think Vigor , Soul of New Phyrexia , Toski, Bearer of Secrets , Verdant Sun's Avatar , and Vivien Reid are all playable. Myojin of Life's Web needs some way to refill the hand or its ability will never do anything that impactful. Impervious Greatwurm is the weakest option since it gets completely stuffed by chump blockers. I used Connive / Concoct to reanimate it in standard and still found it to be too slow. If you had a Warstorm Surge or something, maybe it'd be a different story...
TheVectornaut on
Death Touch Green Boi
3 years ago
I'll just go through the mainboard cards I would personally cut first. Ancient Ooze : very big but requires trample or the like to actually do anything at 7 mana. Copper Myr : almost objectively worse here than most green mana dorks. Ezuri's Archers : not impactful enough in the main without a devotion or elf theme. Ghoultree : your creatures are too big to be dying that often and you want them alive anyway. Lumberknot : similar story to Ghoultree. Spawnwrithe : needs to be built around. Wall of Tanglecord : wastes the benefits of any Overrun effects. Predator's Rapport : more of a sideboard card unless burn is really popular. Reclaim : very slow and lacking enough good targets. Serpent's Gift : redundant and inefficient if you just run enough deathtouch creatures. Tower Defense : are there really enough flyers going around to have this in the main? Windstorm : see above. Spider Spawning : if this is what you're running Transguild Promenade for, it's not worth it without more GY synergy. Accorder's Shield : vigilance isn't impactful enough with no exert, tap abilities, or much else to abuse it. Brawler's Plate : very costly for the buff. Golden Urn : much worse than even the Rapport. Staff of the Wild Magus : staffs aren't even strong enough to do well in dedicated lifegain decks, unfortunately.
I'd say all of your maybeboard picks are better than the aforementioned cards. I'll list some other alternatives that come to my mind though. Primordial Hydra and Kalonian Hydra are some budget-unfriendly but highly dangerous beaters that you can get out relatively early. Joraga Treespeaker (or maybe Elvish Archdruid ) would make your archers much better by letting them double as mana dorks. Otherwise, I like Arbor Elf with Utopia Sprawl type auras on your forests to help ramp. If you prefer the vigilance idea, Champion of Rhonas is a budget Elvish Piper that likes not tapping in combat. If you like walls, Overgrown Battlement and Axebane Guardian can get ridiculous mana going. They also benefit from Assault Formation which synergizes with Tower Defense. In terms of small creatures with reach, Traproot Kami is my clear pick for mono-green, especially in multiplayer. If you need to add trample, Rancor is excellent value. If you need recursion, Eternal Witness should be near the top of the list. If you're struggling with flyers, maybe try Gravity Well . If you need more life, Engulfing Slagwurm likes forced blocks while Verdant Sun's Avatar likes playing beefy guys.
Given what you have already, I think shifting to include more deathtouch creatures and Lure s would be the most optimal plan. Viridian Longbow and Thornbite Staff are some other equipment that benefit from that strategy. For the creatures, Ohran Frostfang is a casual-only option that's completely busted in commander, and I'm always a sucker for Wasteland Viper 's versatility at only 1 mana.
Moosh528491 on
Nethroi, Apex of Value
3 years ago
ImmortalDawn thanks for your suggestions! I like Season of Growth, but I don't think I have quite enough mutate cards to make it work (might work better in something like Otrimi, the Ever-Playful
). I'm running about 8 mutate cards, and I think you would need more like 15-20 to really make it work.
Lumberknot is cool but not as synergistic with the deck as I would like (I will keep it in mind though, it's so cheap and it grows like crazy), Golgari Grave-Troll on the other hand is quite good. I put that in instead of Stitcher's Supplier (which has gotten to $3!), since Grave-Troll fills the yard and be mutated onto (on top of having 0 power), so it synergizes in basically every conceivable aspect. I cut it from an earlier build of the deck, but it is quite good.
The manlands are interesting - I'll have to think about those...
ImmortalDawn on
Nethroi, Apex of Value
3 years ago
I've been playing around with a decklist for Nethroi, too. I really like your budge approach. I was trying the same at first but couldn't stop me from buying all these cool overpowered and overpriced pieces of cardboard :D
I think Season of Growth would be good with a reasonable amount of mutate creatures. Lumberknot too because it (or a mutant) keeps growing and is permanently hexproof on top. Golgari Grave-Troll is also "fairly" cheap at the moment. And the manlands Stirring Wildwood, Hissing Quagmire and Shambling Vent can act as a backup to mutate onto after a board wipe.
Natalbee on
Tuvasa the Sunlit
5 years ago
If you're looking to get away from the Flickerform effects and use a Glen Elendra Archmage, Solemnity might be something to look into. It's kind of controlling and negates poison counters, but doesn't work with Avenger of Zendikar, Lumberknot, Lilting Refrain, etc... and as I'm looking at your deck I see Solemnity already in there :P Nevermind haha
ceruleanplains on
$60 Competitive Mono-Green Aggro
6 years ago
I built your deck a few months ago and also found something very similar on mtggoldfish.com, so thanks for the fun. But after play-testing, I put in 2x Primordial Hydra & 2x Ghalta, Primal Hunger for big mana sinks or beat-down opportunities I put 1x Growing Rites of Itlimoc in my build for opportunity ramp and card delving. In my sideboard I threw in 4xSlippery Bogle for burn, 4xSpider Umbra for spirits or board wipe, 2x Naturalize, 1x Dryad Militant (3 in mainboard).
Instead of Dungrove Elder I went with Lumberknot. The play is that you're avoiding creature arbitrage that way and pumping it with your dorks that you can chump block with. I also left in 3x Oran-Rief, the Vastwood and 15 Card: Forest
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